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Posted: 9/12/2004 8:49:14 AM EDT
[#1]
I'm in.
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Posted: 9/12/2004 11:57:00 AM EDT
[#2]
TWO
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Posted: 9/12/2004 12:08:56 PM EDT
[#3]
With the Larue actually being cheaper, and including a sight assembly... I don't see how this could be a great seller. But I may be wrong.
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Posted: 9/12/2004 12:15:50 PM EDT
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I would be interested, but the price is entirely too high, especially if it's missing the sight components.
If it comes down another $15 or so, count me as interested. |
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Posted: 9/12/2004 12:21:15 PM EDT
[#5]
Looks rugged, kinda like a fixed Troy sight. But I like my LMT better.
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Posted: 9/12/2004 12:26:56 PM EDT
[#6]
One please.
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Posted: 9/12/2004 4:14:40 PM EDT
[#7]
Here's a LaRue BUIS:
http://www.gandrtactical.com/images/archive/LaRue%20BUIS2.jpg http://www.gandrtactical.com/images/archive/LaRue%20BUIS3.jpg And here's a Lewis Machine and Tool (LMT): http://www.buffertech.com/lmt_sight.jpg http://www.buffertech.com/iraq_lmt_sight1.jpg Function is the most important aspect of the sights, but I still like good cosmetics. I want the sight to look as good as it works. The LaRue is quick-detachable, which is a plus... but it looks too blocky for me. The LMT is an adjustable A2 sight, and I'm looking for a set-it-and-leave-it-alone A1 sight. Plus it appears to just be the sight from a detachable carry handle. Actually, in the last photo it appears that this photo might just be a A2 detachable carry-handle that had the front part/handle hacked off. I like the CNC sight better, but I wish it had the ARMS quick-detach lever/cam. |
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Posted: 9/12/2004 4:29:25 PM EDT
[#8]
Very interested
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Posted: 9/12/2004 4:40:54 PM EDT
[#9]
R4fan: I think you are right....that last pic looks to be a detachable handle just chopped off. I've heard of a few guys doing this to their handles. But I've never liked the idea of chopping up a perfectly good part....haha. I've never seen one of those ARMS quick detach levers. That would be cool to have it quick detachable, but the way I look at it, it's like the A1 sight....once it's set, you never have to screw with it again. For me it's the same way with the quick release lever....how many times will you be removing the sight?....for me, it will be almost never. If I do, I'll just take it home and remove the sight with an allen wrench. But if I could get my hands on a ARMS sight, I might try to figure out how it works and use the same concept with my sight. I do like the ARMS quick release, but I'm not sure if I could use it with my sight or not.
Justin |
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Posted: 9/12/2004 4:51:25 PM EDT
[#10]
The Larue lever sytem is a better design. It can be adjusted to any rail spec.
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Posted: 9/12/2004 4:51:56 PM EDT
[#11]
Are there any more pictures of the A1 BUIS? Im pretty interested, but Id like to see some more pictures of one on a rifle.
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Posted: 9/12/2004 4:56:59 PM EDT
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SuperChicken: If you visit my website... www.cncgunsmithing.com you will see other pics of the A1 BUIS. Those are the only pics I have at this time. Justin |
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Posted: 9/12/2004 5:05:18 PM EDT
[#13]
Sorry, Justin, I was referring to the comparison between the ARMS system and the Larue system. If you're going to check out the possibility of adding a lever to your's, check out the Larue. Your's is fine, though, for a fixed platform. I'm kind of a weird bird. I prefer a fixed sight to a folding sight, but I like the ability to remove it to allow use of my ACOG. Your design is very sharp. I'm in for one regardless of whether or not it's QD. |
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Posted: 9/12/2004 5:15:27 PM EDT
[#14]
Justin,
If you want, send one to me, I will take some pictures for you. You know, just like the P228. Regards |
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Posted: 9/12/2004 8:59:38 PM EDT
[#16]
Im sold. The extra pictures on your webiste look awesome.
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Posted: 9/13/2004 12:14:56 AM EDT
[#17]
I am in. Very interested.
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Posted: 9/13/2004 2:21:07 AM EDT
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Posted: 9/13/2004 5:43:25 AM EDT
[#19]
I'm in for one, I have one of the A1 carry handles. For all of the nay sayers who are bashing the price and usefulness, just don't buy one. I didn't need the A1 carry handle, but it looks cool and not everyone will have one, so that's why I want one of the A1 buis.
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Posted: 9/13/2004 6:04:52 PM EDT
[#21]
Cavalry Arms already makes one.
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Posted: 9/13/2004 6:21:41 PM EDT
[#22]
I'm glad the rest of the firearms industry doesn't think like you. We'd all be shooting the same gun with the same options. Ford makes a car...why drive anything else? Also, the Cav Arms sight sits farther forward on the rail which some will not like. The CNC mounting system is better because it uses a clamping bar instead of just squeezing the sight together. |
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Posted: 9/13/2004 6:34:49 PM EDT
[#23]
Here's a photo of the Calvary Arms sight:
http://www.cavalryarms.com/SARS-1.jpg http://www.cavalryarms.com/SARS-2.jpg I'm sure the sight functions fine, but in my opinion it looks ugly. This is exactly what I meant by a "block of steel crudely turned into a rear sight" in my previous post. The edges look so sharp on it I'd be afraid that I might cut my hand open. |
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Posted: 9/13/2004 6:40:44 PM EDT
[#24]
I'd maybe be in for one, but probably would fall behind a few other widgets on my list...
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Posted: 9/13/2004 6:43:06 PM EDT
[#25]
Bradd_D,
You beat me to that comment, I was thinking the same thing. Not to insult anyone, but I would rather pay for quality instead of buying junk. I have a friend that will go out and buy somewhat expensive guns, then get the cheapest accessories/scopes/mounts because it works (for now). That sight probably works, but there are better alternatives for not a lot more money. Buying a sight like that is like buying some of those junk gunshow AR mags instead of geting the real USGI mags for a little bit more. No thanks... |
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Posted: 9/14/2004 7:16:11 AM EDT
[#26]
BTT
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Posted: 9/14/2004 10:09:42 AM EDT
[#27]
I like the hex screw instead of the big ass knob (as found on most carry handles). I am definately in for one. I really like this option, or even a lever would be cool. I didn't buy the carry handle because I hate knobs. I sure wish you made your carry handle with a lever type attachment or even the hex screws. Screws or levers give it a much cleaner slim profile look.
 
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Posted: 9/15/2004 7:39:03 PM EDT
[#28]
BTT
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Posted: 9/15/2004 9:52:04 PM EDT
[#29]
I like it. If I didn't already have an LMT, this would be right up my alley.
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Posted: 9/15/2004 10:18:24 PM EDT
[#30]
Help a dumbass out. What's the advantage of the A1 as compared to the A2? I understand that the A1 is set it and forget, but how is that any different than an A2 if you just set it and don't fuck with it later?
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Posted: 9/15/2004 10:49:06 PM EDT
[#31]
The A1 is lighter weight, and much more difficult to change accidentally.
-Troy |
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Posted: 9/17/2004 7:04:57 AM EDT
[#32]
Tagged for further consideration
Glenn |
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Posted: 9/17/2004 7:46:34 AM EDT
[#33]
Great idea.
Great work. Questionable price, especially with no sight. Don't cast/machine the recess below the windage wheel on right side and on left side below windage screw/shaft. May decrease manufacture time and cost. Is the recesses for weight and/or appearence? I think flat sides would look better. I would consider one with sight and slight price reduction. Again, great work! Are there any available? Count me in for one. |
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Posted: 9/17/2004 4:34:14 PM EDT
[#34]
Count me in for one..I got one the A1 handles and love it...
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Posted: 9/17/2004 6:30:29 PM EDT
[#35]
I'm possibly in for one, depending on how long it takes for this to come about.
-Cap'n |
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Posted: 9/17/2004 7:45:49 PM EDT
[#37]
Justin..
That sure is a nice looking sight. I like the simplicity of the A1 sight, with an A2 aperture in it to switch between day/night or long/short range. I am a knob hater, too. Strictly on the cosmetic side, I would make the radius on the 'ears' of the sight match the radius of the sight adjustment dial on the side. I think you may have THE hot setup for non-folding back up sights. ~Doug |
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Posted: 9/17/2004 8:03:46 PM EDT
[#38]
I got that sight. You get what you pay for. I would replace it with the CNC A1 for free. I only paid $45 for the cav sight. Money is VERY tight. I'm satisfied. Its not as sharp as it looks. Consider it a Back up weapon. 
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Posted: 9/17/2004 8:21:10 PM EDT
[#39]
I'm in for at least one. Sure would be nice to get the price down around the $78 that the carry handle version went for in the group buy. Shouldn't there be less machining and material involved in this one? |
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Posted: 9/18/2004 11:32:50 AM EDT
[#40]
Other things I like about this idea:
The rearward position. Not placed forward on the rail. The smoothed contour of the ears going around the top of the sight. This sight doesn't look like a chunk of metal stuck onto the receiver. Compliments the rifles appearance. Looking at this makes me wonder why someone hasn't tried this before. |
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Posted: 9/18/2004 3:31:33 PM EDT
[#41]
Same here. I just picked up a LaRue...but I would have picked this over it hands down (nothing against LaRue...I still love my Aimpoint mount from them). Anyway, I am tenatively "in" for one, but I too would like to see the price closer to $80 if I am going to sell off my LaRue for it. I'll keep my fingers crossed. |
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Posted: 9/19/2004 11:06:06 AM EDT
[#42]
Put me down for 1. With the quality put into Justins parts I can not pass on one of these!
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Posted: 9/19/2004 11:22:47 AM EDT
[#43]
Your A1 looks good and really like the idea of fixed A1 style BUIS' s for CQB type weapons (M4). I personally believe that ALL mounts (including BUIS's) should be able to be removed without tools. If an operator wants to attach a NV device to the weapon, they will have to remove the A1. I personally don't want to be looking for an allen wrench in the dark. The throw lever design also gives you 100% repeat zero capablitiy and is much faster on and off than ANY thumb screw. Add the fact that the LaRue Tactical BUIS is only $89 it is VERY hard to beat. Those of you that don't like the the LaRue Tactical BUIS REALLY need to use one before you say that. Most that have said that and then bought one found out that they love it....
C4 www.gandrtactical.com  
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Posted: 9/19/2004 11:51:51 AM EDT
[#44]
 ^^Talk about hi jacking a thread.. ^^ We all know what BUIS are out there and how they function and attach. I think this thread is about getting ideas for something new, unique, and somewhat "custom made" for ARF.com members.
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Posted: 9/19/2004 12:09:47 PM EDT
[#45]
I'd wager that a fair number of folks here don't need to speedily slap NV optics on their rifles under stress. For actual operators, yes, levers are nice...but for my personal "non-duty" M4gry, I'd actually prefer a tighten & forget it BUIS. That said, I HAVE a LaRue BUIS right now...and if these were in the same price category (e.g, $85), I'd swap it for the A1 style discussed here for my non-duty rifle. Now...I did get recently pick up a new Comp M2 instead of an Comp ML2....so perhaps if I get this new A1 BUIS, I'll have to build another complete upper to give my LaRue a new home (in case I do get some personal NV equip. to play with). 
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Posted: 9/19/2004 12:23:49 PM EDT
[#46]
No hijacking at all. I think they have a good product and I am in favor of seeing more A1 BUIS's on the market. A couple people stated their opinions on what they like and don't like about the LaRue Tactical BUIS and I was commenting back. Nothing more and nothing less.... C4 |
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Posted: 9/19/2004 12:26:43 PM EDT
[#47]
I think you would be surprised to know how many folks are running NV and fixed BUIS and love the idea of being able to remove their BUIS without ANY tools in complete darkness. You can count me as one of these folks! I also did not see the price on these A1's. Are they below $85? If they can get the price below say $75, I think they will have a winner for sure!C4 |
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Posted: 9/19/2004 12:34:41 PM EDT
[#48]
I don't dispute that...notice I said that for those who DON'T use NV equipment and want a semi-perm. non-DQ BUIS, this "A1 thingy" would be ideal... Notice that I said that if I WERE to run some NV equipment I would keep my LaRue and use it and the NV stuff on a dedicated upper? |
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Posted: 9/19/2004 12:38:26 PM EDT
[#49]
I agree that a lot of folks don't run NV. I would still rather remove a mount without ANY tools (personal pref.)... C4 |
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Posted: 9/19/2004 12:51:52 PM EDT
[#50]
Understood. I'm the opposite. I only want QD if it is actually necessary for the application I have in mind for said rifle. Meaning, If I think I *might* run NV on it, then yes, a QD lever would be required IMO...but unless I actually BUY some NV equipment (which won't likely happen for a while), my personal preference shifts towards the semi-perm A1 style as shown here...IF it is priced at the same level as the LaRue. Ideally, I'd like a non-QD LaRue mount, but I've talked to Mr. LaRue about such a thing a few times (as well as other things) and I know such is not on the horizon. LaRue does market its stuff to my "actual & current operator" brethren...so I understand their production standpoint. Since in all likelihood, this A1 BUIS will settle in the $90-100 range, I'll probably opt to not take a loss on my LaRue, keep it, and look on enviously as others have all the fun. Anyway...I think that for the "good of this thread" ... we should get back to discussing the CNC A1 site...and not the LaRue one. |
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