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Posted: 8/26/2004 8:49:59 AM EDT
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Isnt that the one with the very short barrel? In my opinion, its not very far up the cool ladder at all. I guess its all about what you are looking for. Its certainly a small package, and with a folding stock, it is extremely small. But I think I have only ever seen one of these, they are extremely expensive.
I had considered getting a HK93 at the same time I was getting my first preban AR15. In the end, I discovered I was going to be able and get the AR with every accessory I could want for the same price as the stock HK. In my mind, the accessorized AR was the better overall package. YMMV |
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Posted: 8/26/2004 8:55:26 AM EDT
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I've never been one for stamped-steel firearms.
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Posted: 8/26/2004 8:57:22 AM EDT
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That's one nice gun.
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Posted: 8/26/2004 8:59:04 AM EDT
[#4]
Very cool!!
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Posted: 8/26/2004 9:04:54 AM EDT
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beauties 48th highlander....igf can do some nice work!
"coolness" is in the eye of the beholder, but i have to say that the hk33/93 is one helluva shooting rifle. its really smooth and the recoil is nothing like an ar, seems i can control it a lot better in fast sa and/or fa fire. maybe the weight of the rifle has more to do with it than anything else, but i know that the stamped steel roller locks are one of my faves to shoot in 223. the only thing that turns me off to 53/33k is the increased muzzle blast...... |
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Posted: 8/26/2004 9:13:56 AM EDT
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regardless of what anyone says, that's an awsome rifle dude......I love that design. Simple,easy to maintain and you can beat the fuck out of it and not worry too much about anything.
Joe 
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Posted: 8/26/2004 9:41:35 AM EDT
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If its cool for YOU, then it was money well spent.
Im just not much of an HK fan. 
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Posted: 8/26/2004 9:44:10 AM EDT
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Totally cool! The delayed blow-back roller lock is most rugged and reliable way to go, IMO. Nothing wrong with stamped steel - if the best GPMG made (MG42/MG1 family) can use it, it's fine for a semi-auto 5.56. I can't wait to get my CETME back from Big50. I've always wanted a Stg45 family rifle.
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Posted: 8/26/2004 10:44:33 AM EDT
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Me again....
I have an ORF built 53 w/16" barrel. I always seem to grab one of my ARs....when I actually pick up the 53 clone and go out I instantly remember why I have it...it is a joy to shoot. The recoil is very mild and I just like the sound of the action and the spent shell being thrown a mile to the right front....I don't shoot that gun as often, but I sure like it. |
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Posted: 8/26/2004 10:49:50 AM EDT
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I'm not a big fan of HK products but the HK53 is one of the few HK products that I would truely like to own.
The HK53 is about as small as I would want a 5.56x45mm weapon to get and I feel the HK53 is a better compact 5.56x45mm than a comparable AR15/M16 based weapon. The short barrel may really handicap the 5.56x45mm but the gun is so small and compact it just screams "FUN". Only other HK firearm that holds my interest is the P7 series of handguns. |
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Posted: 8/26/2004 11:07:44 AM EDT
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It should be a fun gun, all right, but my personal interest is in weapons, and such a short barrel on ANY rifle, and particularly a .223, makes for a very poor weapon.
-Troy |
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Posted: 8/26/2004 11:33:36 AM EDT
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Doesn't make any difference to me. The carbine matches I shoot, 40 yards would be a long shot.
If you want to talk wound ballistics which do not mean jack to me, I would much rather be shot with a 9mm than 55 gr 223 from 1/12 twist 12 " barrel. You must know as soon as that mofo hit tissue it would turn into a yawing fragmenting destabalizing buzzsaw. There is no comparison of your M4 14.5 62 grain bullet in a 1/7 barrel problem to this rifle. An M4 set up like this (milspec with milspec ammo) does the ice pick thing. This rifle was not designed to shoot targets at 400m. I'd say it probably does a pretty good job at what it was designed to do.\ Mall Ninja talk is wasted on me. I don't have fantasies of TEOTWAWKI or the Mall's Victoria Secret shop being robbed by felons armed with AK47's. http://www.mallninja.com/images/tmf05.jpg I took on this project because I wanted to, not because I am procuring 2000 rifles for a secret unit of operators who plan black bags ops on North Korea. Some people need to learn seperate reality from fantasy. |
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Posted: 8/26/2004 11:44:37 AM EDT
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You probably posted this on the wrong forum if you were looking for much in the way of compliments when comparing a 53 to the M4. I've used both, and I still like the M4 better. Don't get thin skinned on us, I didn't see anyone but you mention mall ninja or anything similar. Just remember that this is an AR site, and most here aren't HK people.
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Posted: 8/26/2004 11:59:26 AM EDT
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Posted: 8/26/2004 12:05:21 PM EDT
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HKs suck! Send me the HK33 and I'll send you my M4, you'll be much happier with that. I'll even pay postage and buy you a case of ammo for it!
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Posted: 8/26/2004 12:11:22 PM EDT
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First, let me say that those are very nice weapons. I am sure that they are a pleasure to own and shoot. Second, I agree with Stickman in that singing the praises of the HK could be considered inappropriate on an board dedicated to the AR. I don't consider the HK a superior weapon system. I run our local Tactical Rifle matches, and would favor the AR if for nothing else than the difference in time necessary to recharge the weapon. By the way, do you have ANY idea who that is in your picture? 
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Posted: 8/26/2004 12:13:22 PM EDT
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Semi or Select?
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Posted: 8/26/2004 12:16:33 PM EDT
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The post had to be a satirical post in jest.
To suggest that 5.56x45mm out of a shorter barreled HK53 clone is going to perform better as a "tumbling buzzsaw" than a longer barreld M4 shooting the same round is laughable and truely a comment worthy of Gecko_45. Where's our medium speed operator to come in and demand royalty for improper use of his likeness, or should I say "roundness". |
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Posted: 8/26/2004 12:21:57 PM EDT
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Guy comes around fishing for compliments on how 'cool' his rifle is, then starts throwing Mall Ninja insults when he doesnt get the desired responses?
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Posted: 8/26/2004 12:26:47 PM EDT
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Those guns are cool in that they cost a lot of money and are rare....beyond that, blah!
How's this guy linking to mallninja.com pics when the whole site seems to be down? |
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Posted: 8/26/2004 12:55:19 PM EDT
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The mall ninja site is up!
Just having some fun guys. Actually of all forums I visit, this one is the touchiest and I suppose I should tread lightly. I am not sure why. I have never posted a pic anywhere of a rifle that has such nice work done on it ($4000 host gun) and had a bunch of guys tell me it was a POS either. Fishing for compliments yes. I want everybody to see the nice work IGF does. He also does AR work. All I did spend the money. I am not and HK, AR, Aug, or anything else guy. They all have their quirks. I will admit that the AR is the best carbine for games. I have not used mine yet for a carbine match as I am too busy shooting more exotic stuff. I had played with the C7 for 5 years in the CF. For me its not about becoming some sort of armchair operator, it is about having fun. Shooting different rifles and talking shop. How do you know anything about an HK33K or anything else for that matter if you refuse to open your eyes or try one out? There is lots of things about the HK9x series rifle I do not like, but it does not make it a POS. http://img50.exs.cx/img50/5434/chill.jpg Open your eyes! There is a whole big world out there!! |
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Posted: 8/26/2004 1:09:56 PM EDT
[#22]
I'm not an AR guy either. I love em all, shit get both!. NICE GUN!
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Posted: 8/26/2004 1:19:52 PM EDT
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Brushdog, where in TX are you. There is a carbine match this weekend near Austin. I live near San Antonio.
Someone tell me about the guy in the picture. I just found it amusing and hotlinked it here. |
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Posted: 8/26/2004 1:26:07 PM EDT
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I like it.... The only draw back is the cost... $2500 for the gun, $30-$50 for mags, and who knows how much for that conversion (which is awesome and worth every penny from what I can see). Right now ARs are the smartest choice for me... Now I'm really kicking myself for passing on the $1600 HK93...
Spooky |
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Posted: 8/26/2004 1:30:36 PM EDT
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Oh, functionally stamped steel doesn't bother me a bit. The ridges and rolls actually give it a flexibility and resiliancy thicker forged parts lack. Appearance-wise I have never cared for it.
I can certainly see the "I swear - all I could see before I pulled the trigger was this circle and a little post in the center" side of this issue. Still definately qualifies with 'black anti-liberal' coolness. I've said it before and I'll say it again - whatever blows your hair back. Real men don't want to be shot with 308 or 223, btw. If you find me a real man who'll stand there and let someone drill 1/4" holes in him at several times the speed of sound let me know so I can have him comitted. |
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Posted: 8/26/2004 4:14:13 PM EDT
[#26]
Beautiful guns you have there.
What kind of velocity are you giving up with the 53 vs the 33K? |
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Posted: 8/26/2004 5:28:21 PM EDT
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HK sucks.
Not really nice rifles way too much money for a poor man though. Are their any job opening where you work?? |
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Posted: 8/26/2004 6:00:39 PM EDT
[#28]
Down here in Harlingen, about 300 mi south of you. |
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Posted: 8/26/2004 6:25:21 PM EDT
[#29]
Its pretty cool.....
.....for an HK. 
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Posted: 8/26/2004 6:28:38 PM EDT
[#30]
Nice gun!
But I'm easy, I like 'em all! |
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Posted: 8/26/2004 10:52:12 PM EDT
[#31]
Tricked out M4...way "cooler". How is that thing tricked?
 I think the main "cool" component to your HK is because of the rarity . An M4 with all the goodies is hard if not impossible to beat.
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Posted: 8/27/2004 3:11:03 AM EDT
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This is akin to posting pics of your 1973 Porsche 911 Carrera RSR on a chevy site... Yes they are very nice and shoot quite well I'll bet. We all like our ARs.
My roomate has more than a couple HKs sitting in the safe. 2 94s, 2 91s a host of HK pistols. Some with cans some not. Oh yeah his frst 94 is SBRed and has an SWR can on it. OHHHHH so much fun to shoot. Me I am stickin with my M4 based platform. For pistol cal stuff I want a .40 cal upper. It would be NICE to have a 94 but the way I would want it would start to approch the cost of a good used car. I just don't make enough yet... IPSC |
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Posted: 8/27/2004 3:25:33 AM EDT
[#34]
Wicked cool mainly because most of us can't get them anyway.
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Posted: 8/27/2004 3:51:10 AM EDT
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The photoshop picture is of our own Sinistrail Rifleman. I believe that the picture was taken at one of the Subgun / Tactical Rifle matches he shoots. He's one of the big dogs at Calvary Arms, which also happens to be one of this boards industry partners. What you did was akin to going into a restaurant and insulting the cook. 
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Posted: 8/27/2004 5:58:49 AM EDT
[#36]
Strictly for accuracy in reporting, he(SR) did make that picture himself. |
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Posted: 8/27/2004 8:32:18 AM EDT
[#37]
Ooops. It wasn't the the guy in the pic that was funny, it was the whole package. I apologise.
There seems to be 2 breeds of folks if you want to catagorize people. There are the mall ninjas and the armchair commandos. I think I fall into the armchair commando brigade. Like I said before, I have always had an AR. Just now however am I tricking one out with the latest doo-hickeys, and I must admit. This crap is expensive!!!! People keep talking about how expensive an HK is and yet I just bought a folding front sight for $180!!! Collectability.....the difference it, an pre-89 HK has intrinsic value. Spend $2500 on your AR and try to sell it for $2500. The only way to get your money back out of it is to part out the rifle. |
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Posted: 8/27/2004 8:34:30 AM EDT
[#38]
Sad but true... unlkess another semi-auto ban passes, then that may all change (not that I am hoping for one) |
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Posted: 8/27/2004 8:47:45 AM EDT
[#39]
nice
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Posted: 8/27/2004 9:53:09 AM EDT
[#40]
Unfortunately the military cannot issue seperate rifles for MOUT and regular engagements. That is why most people here do not like the idea of such a short rifle in 5.56. That is also why so many people are watching the next rifle adoption closely. When my boots are on the ground I am not on at a carbine "match". My range is two way and very unforgiving. Do I want to limit my weapon to engagements under 40yds.? F#*k no! When I get through inside a building, I have to get back outside and possibly fight in a much longer engagement. As for the mall ninja attack- don't come here looking for comments and when you don't get the ones you want lash out. Uncalled for. I have no room for H&K.
JMHO Hispeedal1-Out. 
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Posted: 8/27/2004 5:55:20 PM EDT
[#42]
Yeah that pic was from like almost 3 years ago now when the mallninja phenonmenon was in full swing, and people were taking/making all kinds of goofy pics of themselves. At the time I was only a part time monkey for Cavalry Arms (still in college working for gun parts) and not the full time goon I am now. I later removed direct association with the site because some people couldn't differentiate between humor and what is really serious...or didn't see how you could have fun part of the time and be serious the rest of the time.
I thought the mallninja site was down? Or did you just take the main page down?.... |
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Posted: 8/27/2004 6:34:43 PM EDT
[#43]
Elite Food Court Team 6
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Posted: 8/27/2004 6:59:10 PM EDT
[#44]
SinistralRifleman,
I thought the pics were great. Who gives a rats ass what a bunch of 19 year olds think. |
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Posted: 8/27/2004 7:36:31 PM EDT
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The recoil on the HK guns are completely different from the AR/M16. The HK's tend to chatter, and though controllable, they just take more experience to shoot well, compared to the M16/M4.
The HK's remind me of shooting a Benelli shotgun, whereas the M16 is more of a Rem 1100. If we were to run a course of fire with both guns, the M16 would end up running better scores than the HK with everybody but the extremely experienced FA shooters. The HK has a more "cool" factor, but when it comes to putting bullets on the target, it's a second place finisher. Surprisingly, in the subgun matches, the MP5 rarely makes the cut, but the slow fire MAC normally is on top with the serious shooters. Go ahead and bury your head in shame......but that's what happens with the BS stops. |
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Posted: 8/27/2004 7:43:22 PM EDT
[#46]
The top shooters at our last subgun match were all using M16 variants of some kind....including myself. The thing that slows the HK guys down the most is the reload procedure. |
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Posted: 8/27/2004 7:54:14 PM EDT
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WTF some people take this critisism way to serious. Can u imagine the shit I would have got if i would have posted pics of my cheap savage tactical 223 (which by the way shooting for acuracy I ll put it up against any AR15 HK or whatever else high priced shit u want to bring looser buys beer).
Or god forbid my monkey made CETME which will turn dead soldier's into dust from whence they came at 100 yrds with open sights 350 invested. My preban (soon to be debaned hopefully) colt national match hbar will do the same thing as the cetme but i paid 800 for it several years ago. I say drink a beer relax enjoy shooting all types of weapons don't be so close minded and stuck up about how cool and expensive your rifles are if everyone was that way all of our pasions (guns) wouldnt be threw the roof in price. WTF a colapsible stock cost 200 dollars for the nice one 350 for a fal 250 for hk what do you think any of these cost to manufacture i bet its less than 25% of what they cost. By the way my cheap old mini 14 ranch rifle will kill just as deadly as any of them unless their is some mistical force that makes a 223 more deadly in a higher priced gun please inlighten me. jmtc Robert ALL guns are way cool But lots of them are way overpriced. |
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Posted: 8/27/2004 8:05:26 PM EDT
[#48]
It is loser not looser! Are your pants looser because you are a loser?
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Posted: 8/27/2004 8:21:23 PM EDT
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Wha wha wha whine whine whine he made fun of my spelling I cant take this critisism im leaving u hurt my one feeling. Really I'm just drinking a beer and admiring your ability to be so hurtful to someone you don't even know. your so mean and for no reason YOU knew WTF I meant u hateful
B%$#. OFFER still stands put your beer where your spelling coments are TUF guy. MOON shine is fine too for you KY boys |
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Posted: 8/27/2004 8:33:39 PM EDT
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Don't fret 48thHighlander. Everything that is not AR-15 gets talked down on this site.
I'm on my second H&K 91 (traided my first for a rare Polygonal barreled model in pristine condition) and sold my model 93 years ago (IMO it's just too heavy for a .223). I've always wanted a model 53 (and even a model 33 would be choice)! H&K's are fine weapons and the modifications you had chosen are also fine! |
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