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Posted: 12/28/2003 9:10:22 PM EDT
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I see the totaly chrome parts as unecesary..But les baer does them right and they are the best in my opinion for chromed steel parts.Also I use their chromed extractors and ejectors the extractors cause I blast alot of steel case and there is no sign of wear on it in 4000 rounds and the ejector because I figured if fouling got in the slipperiness of chrome would take care of it.So while I think total chrome is not neede I think some parts benefit from it.
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Posted: 12/28/2003 11:21:03 PM EDT
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I wouldn't. |
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Posted: 12/28/2003 11:47:23 PM EDT
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If you are looking are a les baer chrome carrier, look at Young Manufacturing. I know where you can get the carrier for $185+shipping. They are really nice and I think they are very similar to Les Baur.
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Posted: 12/29/2003 6:42:42 AM EDT
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I have a Les Baer in my SPR. Excellent product, quality is top notch. Certianly one of the best carriers on the market.
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Posted: 12/29/2003 8:24:14 AM EDT
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LBC & Young are exactly the same carriers with different laser engraved logos. Both are available only with hard chrome plating. Both are made to Young's patent. If you buy the complete assembly direct from LBC you get a McFarland gas ring, a TiN firing pin, and a really heavy duty extractor spring w/ black insert. Their price for everything is $189.00. A good deal for the best available carrier assembly out there.
Well worth the extra $ in my opinion. |
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Posted: 12/29/2003 8:42:10 AM EDT
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Spend the money on ammo. If THTF, your standard bolt group will last long past the time it takes you starve to death :-)
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Posted: 12/29/2003 8:45:22 AM EDT
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What is the benefit of the McFarland gas ring? I have heard of that before, but is it really any better than the standard 3 gas rings?
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Posted: 12/30/2003 1:31:46 PM EDT
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Quoted: LBC & Young are exactly the same carriers with different laser engraved logos. Both are available only with hard chrome plating. Both are made to Young's patent. If you buy the complete assembly direct from LBC you get a McFarland gas ring, a TiN firing pin, and a really heavy duty extractor spring w/ black insert. Their price for everything is $189.00. A good deal for the best available carrier assembly out there. I'll have to go check them out. I didn't know they were the same as a Les Baer. |
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Posted: 12/30/2003 3:19:56 PM EDT
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Re the Mc Farland gas ring.......the marketing types would tell you that having no end gaps to line up then there is no gas leakage past the ring. Personally, I think this is BS. I have never had a cycling problem with the stock rings in a bunch of rifles, but in theory the one-piece ring does have merit.
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Posted: 12/30/2003 6:36:45 PM EDT
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Yes! It is a good product.
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Posted: 12/31/2003 4:29:20 PM EDT
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If you got the money to burn, get it. If you don't already have a good carry assy, there's no need. To me, it's like getting HID lights on your vehicle - not necessary, but they have some nice advantages. The LBC IS one of the finest carriers though, chrome issue aside, and gives you the weight reliability of the M16 carrier. A fractional edge. You might be better off spending the extra money on other accessories that you don't have yet.
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Posted: 1/2/2004 3:24:53 AM EDT
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Young Machine makes the Les Baer bolt carriers.
We will be offering them as soon as the Brown truck brings them. Also the Young/Baer carriers are not just "chromed". Dan told me how he makes them and the chrome is just icing on the cake for wear and ease of cleanup. These bolt carriers are machined slightly oversized. Then sent to heat treat. Dan explained the heat treat takes most carriers slightly out of spec due to the heat. Dan then precision grinds them perfectly round and hones the bolt hole. He then sends them out for the hard chrome finish. Upon their return they are then polished so all the chrome surfaces are perfect and the bolt hole is also polished for no drag. They are then carefully spec'd for quality control and finally laser engraved with the YM Logo so you know you are getting the real deal. I have know Les Baer for years from my IPSC days and owned a couple of his 1911s for competition and Les would not use anything other than the best in his rifles just as he did with the pistols. We will also be offering the Young carriers with the LMT Socom M4 bolt for the ultimate in reliability. Denny |
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