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Posted: 6/16/2003 9:29:15 PM EDT
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I guess when you want gear to save your ass you stop worrying about saving weight. Saving weight is important, but it is also relative. Wasted weight is just that.... wasted. An Aimpoint or ACOG is the antithisis of wasted weight. They are so usefull that whatever weight they add is meaningless compared to what you gain.
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Posted: 6/16/2003 9:41:46 PM EDT
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Are you taking it on a 15 mile hump any time soon?
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Posted: 6/16/2003 9:47:19 PM EDT
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Will the US military ever do 15 mile combat humps except in very rare instances? Interesting question...
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Posted: 6/17/2003 12:27:38 AM EDT
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Hey a five mile hump with a heavy rifle would do me in, Im an old man !
[b]Dont forget a 30rnd mag 1 lb loaded [/b] |
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Posted: 6/17/2003 9:14:55 AM EDT
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Thats why god invented the automobile.
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Posted: 6/17/2003 9:32:58 AM EDT
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Quoted: I guess when you want gear to save your ass you stop worrying about saving weight. Saving weight is important, but it is also relative. Wasted weight is just that.... wasted. An Aimpoint or ACOG is the antithisis of wasted weight. They are so usefull that whatever weight they add is meaningless compared to what you gain. Aimpoint, ACOG, RAS and combat light is value added weight. Ever heard of the 300lbs of light weight gear?? |
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Posted: 6/17/2003 12:19:38 PM EDT
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When did the AR type weapon start to get fat?
After his wife had their first kid. Wife lost the weight, dad didn't. No, wait. That's me. Pete |
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Posted: 6/17/2003 12:34:01 PM EDT
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It got FAT when people started buying those HBARs. Remember the H in HBAR stands for HEAVY!!
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Posted: 6/17/2003 9:02:45 PM EDT
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when did the AR start getting "fat"? when they went from the A1 configuration to the A2, around 88 or 89, about the same time that the military went from the M16A1 to the M16A2....a more thicker barrel, a bit longer buttstock, incorporated a built in shell deflector,and probably a few other things that added the weight...but the biggest factor is the heavier barrel.
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Posted: 6/18/2003 2:26:28 AM EDT
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Fat: I dunno...
PHAT: since the first time I ever saw one. [:D] I couldn't resist. |
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Posted: 6/18/2003 4:04:54 AM EDT
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My unit got issued the M16A2 late 86 or early 87. Do remember that I turned in a XM16E1 for it. 87 was also the year that we also turned in our M1911A1s for the M9 and got our first SAW M249s on the detachment.
De Oppresso Liber |
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Posted: 6/18/2003 5:35:01 AM EDT
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Since the AR is now the ultimate "hobby gun" grunts and snuffies will hang on it what they want...as for me, weight is a concern, and all I choose to put on my rifles is good electronic sighting, which is worth the weight...my H-Bar is used only at the range, the CAR is my companion in the woods.
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