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Posted: 6/9/2003 1:19:59 PM EDT
My Colt M4gery is almost done:

http://home.insightbb.com/~karlknapp2/Colt01.jpg
http://home.insightbb.com/~karlknapp2/Colt02.jpg
http://home.insightbb.com/~karlknapp2/Colt03.jpg

  • Colt MT6400C

  • ARMS #38 S-Ex Swan Sleeve

  • ARMS #22 High Throw Scope Rings

  • IOR Valdada M2 (4x) Scope with Dragunov Reticle

  • CQB Solutions #137 Tactical Sling with ERB


The only thing left to do is mount a flashlight. Planning on mounting a Surefire 6P with Z32 Shock Isolated Bezel mounted with a GG&G D&D Flashlight mount.

This is my first AR-15 and I can certainly say that I have the fever. A fun gun to shoot. Need more ammo.....
Link Posted: 6/9/2003 1:27:44 PM EDT
[#1]
Looks good.

How much did you pay for the Colt MT6400C?

I may purchase a Colt MT6400C in the near future.
Link Posted: 6/9/2003 1:30:24 PM EDT
[#2]
Paid $1150 at PopGuns in Indianapolis. Their web site is [url]www.popguns.com[/url]. I probably could have done a bit better on the price, but I fell in love with the gun.
Link Posted: 6/9/2003 1:51:55 PM EDT
[#3]
Thanks.
Link Posted: 6/9/2003 2:45:58 PM EDT
[#4]
Nice rifle.

The ballistics on the scope will be off, but you already knew that right [:)]
Link Posted: 6/9/2003 2:59:13 PM EDT
[#5]
very nice rifle
Link Posted: 6/9/2003 3:18:43 PM EDT
[#6]
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Nice rifle.

The ballistics on the scope will be off, but you already knew that right [:)]
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Not sure what you mean on the ballistics being off. The scope is callibrated for .223 62 gr.

The range I shoot at regularly only has 100 yards. I haven't had a chance to try the BDC at longer distances.
Link Posted: 6/9/2003 3:19:59 PM EDT
[#7]
I love that rifle.  [;)]
Link Posted: 6/9/2003 4:25:00 PM EDT
[#8]
Is that scope built different than US made or do you have the elevation turret on the left side and windage on the top?
Link Posted: 6/9/2003 4:44:49 PM EDT
[#9]
Unfortunately, my pictures only show one side of the scope.

Windage knob is on the right, elevation knob on the top, illumination control is on the left.

If you want to read more about the scope, we had a lengthly discussion a while back. See [url]http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=3&f=18&t=159450[/url]
Link Posted: 6/9/2003 5:10:04 PM EDT
[#10]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Nice rifle.

The ballistics on the scope will be off, but you already knew that right [:)]
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Not sure what you mean on the ballistics being off. The scope is callibrated for .223 62 gr.

The range I shoot at regularly only has 100 yards. I haven't had a chance to try the BDC at longer distances.
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I meant the reticle. Bullet drop etc. I belive that its designed for 7.62x54R but if your only shooting at 100 yds I guess its not a problem.

Im just used to using scopes at distances beyond the zero so it always kinda freaks me out when I see a dragunov/nagant scope on a 5.56 rifle.
Link Posted: 6/9/2003 6:14:08 PM EDT
[#11]
The bullet drop compensator (BDC) on this scope is calibrated for the .223 round, 62 gr. The BDC goes up to 800 yards, plenty of length for the 223. You are correct in that the other chevrons are not useful with 223. They are only for longer range shot aiming points beyond the maximum setting of the BDC (useless for 223).
Link Posted: 6/9/2003 6:26:43 PM EDT
[#12]
Nice rifle......but i'd lose the comp.  just my .02
Link Posted: 6/9/2003 6:35:47 PM EDT
[#13]
almost done.....trust me it's never done
Link Posted: 6/9/2003 8:20:31 PM EDT
[#14]
What is that Swan sleeve on there for?  What does it do exactly?
Link Posted: 6/9/2003 8:37:42 PM EDT
[#15]
.....It gives him a really long back up iron sight......
Link Posted: 9/7/2003 1:29:30 PM EDT
[#16]
What size are the trigger pins on new Colts?
Link Posted: 9/7/2003 2:11:05 PM EDT
[#17]
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What is that Swan sleeve on there for?  What does it do exactly?
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It probably also helps him clear a standalone ARMS #40 BUIS, and removes a little of the sight tower shadow.  Maybe he already had the low rings and wanted it up a little higher as well, or maybe he wanted some more rail space up front?  His rail gave him all that.
Link Posted: 9/7/2003 2:38:48 PM EDT
[#18]
karlknapp,

So are you planning to addsomething like a laser to the front end of the rail?  I was just wondering why you selected that length as it does not appear you have to use that long of a 38.
Link Posted: 9/7/2003 2:58:21 PM EDT
[#19]
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What size are the trigger pins on new Colts?
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They are oversized.  All civilian & LEO Colt hammer/trigger pins are oversized.
Link Posted: 9/7/2003 6:08:15 PM EDT
[#20]
Something I noticed about that rail - it appears picatinny cut at the rear, but more like weaver cut up front.  Why didn't they make the rail crosscuts at the same intervals as those on the rear???  Seems like that limits position choice up front.  Strange.  I wonder if that was to make the rail more rigid up front.
Link Posted: 9/8/2003 8:39:51 AM EDT
[#21]
Hopefully, you bought the improved version with the solid pins attaching the brake.  Otherwise, the (roll-pinned) brake will most likely blow off.
Link Posted: 9/8/2003 10:20:59 AM EDT
[#22]
I bought the Swan sleeve because even with ARMS #22 high rings, the scope would not clear a #40 BUIS. The #38 was chosen because I am considering an EOTech (maybe) down the road and want to mount it forward onto something more solid than a handguard.

The current setup works pretty well for me and I don't regret the #38.

As for the brake, it is still attached, but I plan to take it off when I have a chance.
Link Posted: 9/8/2003 7:04:40 PM EDT
[#23]
Where are you planning to shoot this beauty?
The reason I asked, is I live near Indy, and can't find a good place to shoot with any distance. 100yds at Atterbury is about the limit. BTW, the guys at PopGuns are good people to deal with.
Link Posted: 9/8/2003 8:48:43 PM EDT
[#24]
Sweet rifle. Congrats on being nearly finished, I bet you're itching to get to the range. [:D]
Just wondering, does a flashlight help with long range shots like the ones your scoped rifle is set up for? I've never tried it. I always figured a light was more for CQB type scenarios. But then again I really don't know.
Link Posted: 9/9/2003 6:11:34 AM EDT
[#25]
MickAR15 - I've been shooting at Fall Creek Valley Conservation Club for about six months now. Nice range and good folks. The only issue I have is that the longest range is 100 yards - but that is long enough for me to practice. You can find it on the web at [url]FCVCC.ORG[/url].

As for the flashlight - I doubt it would be useful to reach out and touch someone at a distance/CQB intended. I'll probably put an EOTech on at some point soon.

I have found that the 1/7 twist seems to like heavier ammo. I tested (at 100 yards):

[b]Hornaday Gold Medal 5.56 72 grain boat tail match[/b]
[img]http://home.insightbb.com/~karlknapp2/GoldMedal1.gif[/img]

[b]Federal M193 5.56 55 grain ball[/b]
[img]http://home.insightbb.com/~karlknapp2/M193_1.gif[/img]

[b]Wolf 5.56 62 grain ball[/b]
[img]http://home.insightbb.com/~karlknapp2/Wolf1.gif[/img]

My Colt definately liked the 72 grain Hornaday best. Very consistent groupings. The M193 and Wolf didn't fair nearly as well. Too bad I can't afford the Hornaday on any kind of regular basis. Still looking for the right inexpensive/consistent ammo.
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