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Posted: 5/22/2003 7:31:22 AM EDT
I am thinking of converting a 16" H bar into a 16" LW and would like to see what some of you guys have.
Link Posted: 5/22/2003 8:46:49 AM EDT
[#1]
Here is a pic of my preban Colt Sporter Lightweight.  It has since changed quite a bit.  For example, it now has a VLTOR buttstock, EOTech 511, and Vortex suppressor.  But this pic will give you a general idea of it.

[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid60/p93777e74a072f3ea4f640b7b49a2b756/fc474046.jpg[/img]
Link Posted: 5/22/2003 8:57:17 AM EDT
[#2]
Here's my lightweight is about 5.5 lbs

[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid51/p2060dbd7dbd10835eff7f5c87e286939/fca678f8.jpg[/img]
Link Posted: 5/22/2003 9:03:24 AM EDT
[#3]
Thanks Marine NP and Ridge, those are some great looking carbines. Keep 'em coming guys.
Link Posted: 5/22/2003 10:47:05 AM EDT
[#4]
Ridge is that a hiperform tube? If so what do you think of it?

I have one on order right now. Gonna throw together a lightweight 20" upper, or as light as a 20" can get, that is.
Link Posted: 5/22/2003 12:04:16 PM EDT
[#5]
Yes, hiperform it is. It's the Ultra light model(less than 6 oz).  It is very light and strong and it handles heat very well also.

IMO,for a lightweight, it's the only way to go.

I love it.
Link Posted: 5/22/2003 12:44:26 PM EDT
[#6]
[img]http://www.wideopenwest.com/~otter/jtkit_rifle3.jpg[/img]

This is my newly-built J&T Tactical LW kit (fluted bbl) with ACE stock upgrade.  Haven't weighed it yet...guessing 6.5 lbs (if you can consider that LW)

--Otter
Link Posted: 5/22/2003 1:01:27 PM EDT
[#7]
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid60/p6b36b80306374167922aa84d9cd3f668/fc4790e3.jpg[/img]
bushmaster superlight barrel (pencil thin all the way back) , dPMS upper, w/out crap on side (forward assist, brass deflect, dust shield) , and ace stock.
Link Posted: 5/22/2003 1:08:50 PM EDT
[#8]
Colt Lightweight Sporter - no frills. (bad pic)

[img]http://home.earthlink.net/~martinmayhem/images/Dsc00419b.jpg[/img]
Link Posted: 5/22/2003 1:45:21 PM EDT
[#9]
Great looking LW carbines guys. That is a nice urban camo job too Die Tryin.
Link Posted: 5/22/2003 2:15:04 PM EDT
[#10]
lol..thanks..lol,,seems like when i post this rifle on a board lookin for this or that,,it gets threadjacked due to camo..lol.oh well.
[url]www.sasarmory.com[/url] they did the work..
*edit* sorry link is down..dunno why..if sumone really is interested. Message me and i can get phone number.
Link Posted: 5/22/2003 3:30:59 PM EDT
[#11]
Crappy pix, but...

Top is an ArmaLite M4C, bottom a Bushmaster Shorty...

Both are configured identical...

Lightweight barrel reprofiles
Cut to 14 1/2"
KKF A3 TacBrakes
ARFX stocks
M4 handguards
Hogue grips

The twins weigh in at 5 pounds 7 ounces each... [;)]

[url]www.villagephotos.com/pubbrowse.asp?selected=183340[/url]

[img]img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-3/122167/KVYRCY[MVMOVAKPNXIJN-KKF01.jpg[/img]

edited for link...
Link Posted: 5/22/2003 4:28:22 PM EDT
[#12]
here goes
-bushmaster upper and lower w/ 16" M4 barrel
-Light weight Alum. KA Grip tube
-ASA non-collapasable stock
-flip up front and rear sights w/ Holo sight
-6.5lbs w/ the flashlight mounted
[img]http://photos.ar15.com/ImageGallery/IG_LoadImage.asp?iImageUnq=11233[/img]
[img]http://photos.ar15.com/ImageGallery/IG_LoadImage.asp?iImageUnq=11232[/img]
Link Posted: 5/22/2003 4:57:23 PM EDT
[#13]
[center][img]http://home.nc.rr.com/blueshockey77/ar_aimpoint_fuji_2.jpg[/img][/center]
[center][img]http://home.nc.rr.com/blueshockey77/stubby.jpg[/img][/center]
Link Posted: 5/22/2003 5:09:43 PM EDT
[#14]
Preban PWA lower with CavArms C1/A1 buttstock and Hogue pistol grip.  Bushmaster A1 upper with 16" Superlight barrel, new-style Vortex flash suppressor.  SureFire M500A fore-end light with blue nav lights.  Trijicon front post and rear aperture tritium night sights.

[img]http://home.attbi.com/~gnanagas/AR15_A1_carbine_02.jpg[/img]
Link Posted: 5/22/2003 7:09:29 PM EDT
[#15]
Well, I'll throw mine into the mix.

[img]http://home.mchsi.com/~greninger/AR15_lw.jpg[/img]
Link Posted: 5/22/2003 7:25:01 PM EDT
[#16]
Here is my Preban Colt Sporter Lightweight with Colt M4 handguards and Colt 4 position. No frills just reliable. Oh he is with his other friend who is not so lightweight.

[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid63/p8bb3c78974ea26c74ffa50a17860d25a/fc1875fa.jpg[/img]

bcr308
Link Posted: 5/22/2003 8:40:22 PM EDT
[#17]
Colt Light Weight #6530

[img]http://www.msnusers.com/_Secure/0TQDiAusVWkXqL!HZE4xdU!8qQiSIVRf9vTlmmzd2ydU!LhkbsZtwbikQzvD9xw4UCfLrGcVbzjbArc1uqOCF*gw6gNhrjUrv!0VI4jSbg6netCK6RFP1Eg/Finished-AR1-013.jpg?dc=4675419207689048361[/img]
Link Posted: 5/22/2003 8:48:32 PM EDT
[#18]
5.5 pounds with the light and Reflex, less than 5 pounds without.
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid18/p128761540a5d33a526309899f65cdce3/fdcce249.jpg[/img]
Link Posted: 5/22/2003 9:04:54 PM EDT
[#19]
Nice variety of light weights. Thanks everybody.
Link Posted: 5/23/2003 4:57:59 AM EDT
[#20]
Quoted:
Colt Light Weight #6530

[url]http://www.msnusers.com/_Secure/0TQDiAusVWkXqL!HZE4xdU!8qQiSIVRf9vTlmmzd2ydU!LhkbsZtwbikQzvD9xw4UCfLrGcVbzjbArc1uqOCF*gw6gNhrjUrv!0VI4jSbg6netCK6RFP1Eg/Finished-AR1-013.jpg?dc=4675419207689048361[/url]
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Tzyck, I'm just curious:  Why did you opt for the ARMS #39 instead of just a spacer for the #22M68?  Did you get the mount before the FIRSH?  Or maybe the 22M68 doesn't lock on the FIRSH properly; I think the rails on my FIRSH are a little undersized.
Link Posted: 5/23/2003 6:10:26 AM EDT
[#21]
Fizassist,
   I had the ARMS#39 before I got the FIRSH. I tried mounting my aimpoint both ways you mention but felt I got a better lock w/ the #22M68 on the ARMS#39 gooseneck. The rails on the FIRSH are fluted down the middle, this may have something to do w/ it? With the use of the #39 I also get a better Co-Witt. view.

[img]http://www.msnusers.com/_Secure/0TAAwHUYVgwvV8emu5Gug*FPF39Q!*etGJUzV6uQBXcztbVNOv*ahTjKO6xXz2RxBBIgADZZEPn*CukLZMiiJ*L!pOCKvpShISrinonbJRvl4vjr3YWZYZA/AR10-Stock1-040.jpg?dc=4675418926483518810[/img]
[img]http://www.msnusers.com/_Secure/0RADuAoITz4lPpMXj7jWBwD!Yk2ECd0*gRJac6*weEBIZ9s0DgZiMLkYFfh6XaNYPCm5!LVrj9fan0bnzeTJJPVX0GhIz1TWgEG1Ql*od4f4/Range-021.jpg?dc=4675418926559698804[/img]

Sorry for the hijack!
Link Posted: 5/23/2003 8:09:05 PM EDT
[#22]
Has anyone had any problems with extreme heat in their LW barrels? I notice that if I shoot over 60 rnds. at a constant pace, my barrel starts smokin. Realy..., smokin. I have to put it aside and start blasting the AR10.
Link Posted: 5/24/2003 7:36:59 AM EDT
[#23]
A Colt XM177E1. Lightest (and most fun) one that I have.

[IMG]http://image1ex.villagephotos.com/220075.jpg[/img]

Link Posted: 5/24/2003 8:22:52 AM EDT
[#24]
Quoted:
Well, I'll throw mine into the mix.

[url]http://home.mchsi.com/~greninger/AR15_lw.jpg[/url]
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Nice,simple rig, love it.
How much does it weigh?
Link Posted: 5/24/2003 8:46:10 AM EDT
[#25]
The Cav Arms on the right  with a 16" pencil barrel is the lightest I have.  The others are just "light".  Hope you wern't   looking for COLT Lightweight's specificially. [:D]


[img]http://www.mallninja.com/images/other/DSC01812.jpg[/img]
Link Posted: 5/24/2003 9:04:12 AM EDT
[#26]
Quoted:
Colt Light Weight #6530

[url]http://www.msnusers.com/_Secure/0TQDiAusVWkXqL!HZE4xdU!8qQiSIVRf9vTlmmzd2ydU!LhkbsZtwbikQzvD9xw4UCfLrGcVbzjbArc1uqOCF*gw6gNhrjUrv!0VI4jSbg6netCK6RFP1Eg/Finished-AR1-013.jpg?dc=4675419207689048361[/url]
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SWEET GUN, Tzyck! Pre-ban? What's the total weight w/ all accessories?
Link Posted: 5/24/2003 9:05:40 AM EDT
[#27]
Quoted:
here goes
-bushmaster upper and lower w/ 16" M4 barrel
-Light weight Alum. KA Grip tube
-ASA non-collapasable stock
-flip up front and rear sights w/ Holo sight
-6.5lbs w/ the flashlight mounted
[url]http://photos.ar15.com/ImageGallery/IG_LoadImage.asp?iImageUnq=11233[/url]
[url]http://photos.ar15.com/ImageGallery/IG_LoadImage.asp?iImageUnq=11232[/url]
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Ummm,nice, but why did you turn the Magpuls? Don't they suck that way? Also: What's that fugly magwell thingy?

Doggonit.out.
Link Posted: 5/24/2003 9:08:55 AM EDT
[#28]
Quoted:
Colt Lightweight Sporter - no frills. (bad pic)

[url]http://home.earthlink.net/~martinmayhem/images/Dsc00419b.jpg[/url]
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Drool drool drool!!! Which year preban? Nice, classic...
Link Posted: 5/24/2003 6:50:45 PM EDT
[#29]
Quoted:
Ummm,nice, but why did you turn the Magpuls? Don't they suck that way? Also: What's that fugly magwell thingy?

Doggonit.out.
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I use a Blackhawk hip mag pouch [url]http://www.blackhawkindustries.com/product_detail.asp?product_id=2113&d=[/url]and only use the Magpuls for a gripping surface. I dont actually use them the way they were designed. I found the idea in the Magpul instruction manual. Also I find that they protect the mag better when doing tactical reloads. 50% empty mag on concrete + aulm mag= f**ked up mags. As for the "fugly magwell thingy" It makes a big difference it the speed of a tactical reload. I shoot alot of 3-gun matches and anything that can make you faster on a reload makes a difference.
Link Posted: 5/24/2003 6:55:01 PM EDT
[#30]
Weighs somewhere around 5 pounds.
Bushy Stubby Stock & TangoDown Pistol Grip
Les Baer flattop w/o forward assist
14.5 pencil thin barrel w Vortex perm. attached
Modified A1 handguards
Diemaco C7A1 backup sight
EO Tech M512 HDS
Daniel's Defense Single Point Sling

It might be ugly, but I love it.:)

http://www.villagephotos.com/viewpubimage.asp?id_=2125660


Gomez
Link Posted: 5/25/2003 12:37:58 AM EDT
[#31]
[img]http://www.alpharubicon.com/~fixer/images/ltwtcar.jpg[/img]
Link Posted: 5/25/2003 6:55:31 AM EDT
[#32]
Doggonit,
  Thanks! It's a post ban Colt. It weighs in at 8.3lbs unloaded.
Link Posted: 5/28/2003 1:18:32 PM EDT
[#33]



here is mine:


[img]http://www.digitalpose.com/mbr/1/20846/p/336528_8324095671803102650_vl.jpg[/img]


i call it a CAR-4 because i kept the features i liked from both the M-4 and the CAR-15.  CAR skinny barrel and telestock, M-4 flattop upper and handguards.

i wish i had a scale to tell you how much it weighs, but lets just say it is pleasant.

-Spaceman

Link Posted: 5/28/2003 2:39:07 PM EDT
[#34]


anyone else have any sweet lighweights?

im planning on bulding the lightest carbine i can and need some ideas.

mine is light, but i want really light.

-Spaceman

Link Posted: 5/28/2003 3:16:34 PM EDT
[#35]
Light weight upper
Colt AR15 carrier
A1 upper
The new Cavarms lower abou to be released

I think thats the lightest you can get right now.

You caould get an upper with no brass deflector or forward assist too.  That is all you can do unless you get a lightweight freefloat forearm to replace the barrel nut.
Link Posted: 5/28/2003 3:27:52 PM EDT
[#36]
Quoted:
here goes
-bushmaster upper and lower w/ 16" M4 barrel
-Light weight Alum. KA Grip tube
-ASA non-collapasable stock
-flip up front and rear sights w/ Holo sight
-6.5lbs w/ the flashlight mounted
[url]http://photos.ar15.com/ImageGallery/IG_LoadImage.asp?iImageUnq=11233[/url]
[url]http://photos.ar15.com/ImageGallery/IG_LoadImage.asp?iImageUnq=11232[/url]
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Where did the Mag well guard thing come from?

Thanks, Glockdog

Airborne!!
Link Posted: 5/28/2003 4:56:00 PM EDT
[#37]


yea DevL,

thats pretty much what i have decided.  i really truly wonder what the actual lightest forearm setup is.  is the Hiperform ultra light model actually lighter than normal CAR handguards?  i have some CAR handguards i took the heatshields out of and they are VERY light.  i dont see how the Hiperform guards could be any lighter unless they used an aluminum barrel nut.  i need a good set of scales though, because the D-ring and associated parts that come with normal handguards do add appreciable weight.

also, anyone have the exact weight of the new cav arms lower?  is it gonna be lighter than an aluminum lower + pistol grip + ARFX ultralight stock?

-Spaceman



Link Posted: 5/28/2003 5:35:19 PM EDT
[#38]
Here's my preban. I know a collapsible stock would be lighter, but I've never been a big fan of them. They just never felt like they shouldered well for me This rifle has a SP1 stock on it.
[img]http://home.mchsi.com/~cz75fan/Colt_a.jpg[/img]

The other side.
[img]http://home.mchsi.com/~cz75fan/Colt.jpg[/img]
Link Posted: 5/29/2003 12:59:04 PM EDT
[#39]
To get the lighest weight (still trying to get lighter....) this is a pretty good layout:

A1 upper w/ Bushmaster's lightweight barrel. If you can, SBR it and make it an 11.5". CavArms lightweight A1 stock lower. Ace lightweight stock. I am not sure about the lighest forearm yet, but the CavArms one is quite light. FIRSH might be interesting. Add a 20rd. mag, and there it is... oh yeah: SPR grips are a good idea.
Link Posted: 5/29/2003 1:17:21 PM EDT
[#40]
I was at a gunshow and one of the guys had a FIRSH, I picked it up and the first thing I thought was "what a brick" that thing was heavy.

So is the FIRSH really pretty heavy or was I looking at some cheap knock off (It's the only one I've seen in real life)?

It seemed very well made, but heavy.
Link Posted: 5/29/2003 3:54:28 PM EDT
[#41]
Quoted:
I was at a gunshow and one of the guys had a FIRSH, I picked it up and the first thing I thought was "what a brick" that thing was heavy.

So is the FIRSH really pretty heavy or was I looking at some cheap knock off (It's the only one I've seen in real life)?

It seemed very well made, but heavy.
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The FIRSHs I've seen were light, but I have seen some copies that felt like they were at least twice as heavy.
Link Posted: 5/29/2003 7:20:54 PM EDT
[#42]
This is my throw down piece, it's pretty light.

[img]http://members.cox.net/johnahamill/armorrail.jpg[/img]
Link Posted: 6/5/2003 4:01:16 PM EDT
[#43]


how much does a Firsh weigh versus normal handguards?

-Spaceman


Link Posted: 6/7/2003 10:38:33 PM EDT
[#44]
Quoted:
This is my throw down piece, it's pretty light.
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Postban upper on a Preban lower?
Link Posted: 6/8/2003 12:28:39 AM EDT
[#45]
[LOLabove]

Very nice
Link Posted: 6/8/2003 5:07:16 PM EDT
[#46]
Here is my lightweight. Just follow the link.
[url]http://community.webshots.com/photo/29311300/41323580UqrBUI[/url]

PWA pre ban lower
Colt lower components
Colt M4 stock
Bushmaster A1 upper
Colt 14.5 inch lightweight 1/7 barrel with a Vortex permanetly mounted.
Trijicon night sights.

I paterned this rifle after the C8A1 and Colt 653. I love this rifle, but so does my wife.

Like this.
[img]http://www.diemaco.com/images/sal-c8.gif[/img]
Link Posted: 6/8/2003 5:35:05 PM EDT
[#47]

[img]http://pic5.picturetrail.com/VOL99/1184889/2242371/27098817.jpg[/img]


Bushmaster. Description in "Show me your superlights" thread
Link Posted: 6/8/2003 5:44:31 PM EDT
[#48]
Here's mine.

[img]http://home.ix.netcom.com/~brownhen/_uimages/XM177E2LS2.jpg[/img]

Link Posted: 6/8/2003 9:21:13 PM EDT
[#49]
HI,

To the gentlemen who post pictures of there AR's, lightweight. They are some really "BAD ASS GUNS", Thank,Kev
Link Posted: 6/9/2003 4:37:09 AM EDT
[#50]
Quoted:
Where did the Mag well guard thing come from?

Thanks, Glockdog

Airborne!!
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from Brownell its made by ARREDONDO
[url]http://www.brownells.com/aspx/NS/Store/ProductDetail.aspx?p=17177[/url]
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