My Bushmaster with 20 inch barrel in the A2 set up has been known to out shoot Deer Hunters at the Shooting Range who were using optics. Hell I like to keep it simple and shoot with iron sights only. My buddy sits next to me with the spotting scope and will yell out every few seconds..... "BULLSEYE"!! Man do those Deer Hunters ever get peed off when my buddy keeps yelling out BULLSEYE!!! You will like either brand But for the price you can't beat a Bushy.