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Posted: 6/6/2020 11:57:16 AM EDT
Howdy,
Was just thinking about this the other day, but what do you folks think will be the most collectible modern produced (Let’s set the line at POST AWB sunset in 2004) Colt AR of all the options they have built? I sorta feel like the full sized AR-15A4 might be a less common bird in the flock since it was only built beginning in what, 2014 to mid 2019? And I’m sure from that it was a lower production number compared to the carbines during that timeframe. I also can’t imagine that option being super popular with LEO’s, so right now I’d bet they aren’t even produced for them. Sure as heck ain’t gonna be the 6920 :) What do you think? Stinkyrat |
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Asked myself this same question with the caveat of also being practical. So I chose the AR15A4.
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I think both the 20” and the 6720 will have some collectibility due to both having “ar15” in the roll mark, same with the 6721.
Mentioned above, the socom will. The 2017 should be more desirable over the 2013 version of the “m4a1” roll marks. The stamped US property will be more desirable over the engraved ones. The 6920 lowers that Brownells had will have some collectibility due to being pistol eligible at least until either SBR laws change or new laws put some kind of end to ar pistols. While not a complete rifle, the “COMMANDO” lowers AU sold will be collectible and in my opinion maybe the most collectible of modern Colts. There is only around 150 of them out there, they were pistol eligible, and one of the coolest roll marks. |
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Quoted: I think both the 20” and the 6720 will have some collectibility due to both having “ar15” in the roll mark, same with the 6721. Mentioned above, the socom will. The 2017 should be more desirable over the 2013 version of the “m4a1” roll marks. The stamped US property will be more desirable over the engraved ones. The 6920 lowers that Brownells had will have some collectibility due to being pistol eligible at least until either SBR laws change or new laws put some kind of end to ar pistols. While not a complete rifle, the “COMMANDO” lowers AU sold will be collectible and in my opinion maybe the most collectible of modern Colts. There is only around 150 of them out there, they were pistol eligible, and one of the coolest roll marks. View Quote I agree on the comments about the commando for sure! I wish I had one! |
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I got a AR-15A4 in 2019 and it gets attention at the range.
I think the Commando lowers will be a good collector item if no one gets another run of them to the market. |
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Quoted: I sorta feel like the full sized AR-15A4 might be a less common bird in the flock since it was only built beginning in what, 2014 to mid 2019? View Quote The AR15A4 is still in production. They make them two to four times a year as orders dictate. What is not known is if the next batch will have AR15A4 marked lowers since they standardized the M4A1 Carbine marking on the lower receiver of other models except for the 2018 specification SOCOM. |
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I’d say the 6720.. the roll markings and the pencil profile barrel would make it collectible.
l’d also add the 6940P to the list.. Oh and the tan/od anodized 6920 as well |
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Quoted: Sure as heck ain’t gonna be the 6920 :) What do you think? Stinkyrat View Quote Agree. |
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Hope you all don't mind me jumping in the conversation but i totally agree the US property marked guns were really cool, as well as the "Commando" roll marked were really neat. It is too bad Colt did not offer more of this type of guns to their customers before they stopped selling to the public. They could have sold a lot more lowers. I think both are highly collectable and will be very solid investments for the future.
I would also add the Colt 6940 FDE/anodized version I heard (not sure how accurate) that Colt only made 400 of them and then stopped due to problems with the anodizing process. |
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Quoted: Hope you all don't mind me jumping in the conversation but i totally agree the US property marked guns were really cool, as well as the "Commando" roll marked were really neat. It is too bad Colt did not offer more of this type of guns to their customers before they stopped selling to the public. They could have sold a lot more lowers. I think both are highly collectable and will be very solid investents for the future. View Quote 2018 SOCOMs are still being produced. They do a few batches a year. The last batch that I saw hit the market was back around December or January. We should see some more out in the near future. |
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Quoted: For complete rifles, I agree that the roll-marked US Property SOCOMs will be most collectible. Regarding Commando lowers, I regret only buying one. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/622/commando1-357356.jpg View Quote I'm fairly certain that I recently saw a stripped M4 Commando lower sell in the EE for $1,500.00. Cheers |
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View Quote I hate you.. ..twice! |
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Quoted: I'm fairly certain that I recently saw a stripped M4 Commando lower sell in the EE for $1,500.00. Cheers View Quote I didn’t see that one but I would say that is close to a going rate. M4a1 lowers were fetching $1000+ at one point and there was a lot more of them out there. Complete rifles of a Commando built lower should fetch the $2500-$3000 range. |
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Quoted: 2018 SOCOMs are still being produced. They do a few batches a year. The last batch that I saw hit the market was back around December or January. We should see some more out in the near future. View Quote Holy crap that’s good news! I thought they stopped production for the civilian market. I’ve been kicking myself for not wanting to spend $1200 for one last year. I thought I missed the boat. |
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The Z Coat
Attached File The more recent tiger stripe one Attached File The previously mentioned tan and green anodized ones Mexico Defense Force marked 6920 Delta HBAR I have a piston marked Colt lower The newer tiger stripe 9mm though I have heard that Colt never actually completed any of the guns I have an upper/lower I built into a complete carbine. A little older is the Colt guard electroless nickel SP1s |
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Quoted: The Z Coat https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/164962/17C06A08-EC0F-4273-A59E-E80557CDBC26_jpe-1468792.JPG The more recent tiger stripe one https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/164962/CFAB37B5-EDE8-4983-AA13-0729F92C2C02_jpe-1468796.JPG The previously mentioned tan and green anodized ones Mexico Defense Force marked 6920 Delta HBAR I have a piston marked Colt lower The newer tiger stripe 9mm though I have heard that Colt never actually completed any of the guns I have an upper/lower I built into a complete carbine. A little older is the Colt guard electroless nickel SP1s View Quote I don’t think any of the funky factory color schemes will ever be collectible. I personally place them way at the bottom of the list. I am not talking about factory tanodized or FDE coated guns, which are definitely collectible. |
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Quoted: I don’t think any of the funky factory color schemes will ever be collectible. I personally place them way at the bottom of the list. I am not talking about factory tanodized or FDE coated guns, which are definitely collectible. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: The Z Coat https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/164962/17C06A08-EC0F-4273-A59E-E80557CDBC26_jpe-1468792.JPG The more recent tiger stripe one https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/164962/CFAB37B5-EDE8-4983-AA13-0729F92C2C02_jpe-1468796.JPG The previously mentioned tan and green anodized ones Mexico Defense Force marked 6920 Delta HBAR I have a piston marked Colt lower The newer tiger stripe 9mm though I have heard that Colt never actually completed any of the guns I have an upper/lower I built into a complete carbine. A little older is the Colt guard electroless nickel SP1s I don’t think any of the funky factory color schemes will ever be collectible. I personally place them way at the bottom of the list. I am not talking about factory tanodized or FDE coated guns, which are definitely collectible. The Z-cotes are definitely collectible and hold a good value but they don’t meet the date cutoff requirement for this thread. |
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Quoted: I don’t think any of the funky factory color schemes will ever be collectible. I personally place them way at the bottom of the list. I am not talking about factory tanodized or FDE coated guns, which are definitely collectible. View Quote Try and find a Z-cote and then see what kind of prices they are bringing. The modern Tiger stripe is rare and when it came out nobody wanted one but last one I saw sell definitely brought a premium. Same could be said for the green and tan ones. I passed on one on a local sale board because it wasn’t my thing. Of the ones I listed I don’t have the green/tan ones, the Z-cote or a Colt guard one. The first two because I don’t care for them as much as other people seem to, the z-cote because I don’t recall ever seeing one for sale for any kind of close to reasonable price and the Colt guards can be found but bring a premium as well that I’m not willing to pay. |
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Quoted: The Z-cotes are definitely collectible and hold a good value but they don’t meet the date cutoff requirement for this thread. View Quote True, they were made in 1988 but you know what’s funny? A friend of mine who has deep ties to Colt and bought out all their custom shop inventory when they were closing up had 3 of the Z-cote stripped stocks that Colt must have had kicking around for 40 years! I bought them just because they are weird. I have no idea what I will ever do with them but I think I have cornered the market on replacement Z-cote stocks |
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View Quote Agreed. Colts only mid-length design. |
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I think the A-1 marked Colt AR-15 Lightweight (LSL serial numbers) would be up there. Its not 100% on how many are out there or were made in the early 2000's but some estimates are just under 300.
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I just picked up one of the Colt factory 7.62x39 fixed stock carbines. I forget the model designation now off the top of my head.
It’s odd though in that it has a sear block, half moon carrier and no bayo lug but does have a flash hider. |
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Quoted: I think both the 20” and the 6720 will have some collectibility due to both having “ar15” in the roll mark, same with the 6721. Mentioned above, the socom will. The 2017 should be more desirable over the 2013 version of the “m4a1” roll marks. The stamped US property will be more desirable over the engraved ones. The 6920 lowers that Brownells had will have some collectibility due to being pistol eligible at least until either SBR laws change or new laws put some kind of end to ar pistols. While not a complete rifle, the “COMMANDO” lowers AU sold will be collectible and in my opinion maybe the most collectible of modern Colts. There is only around 150 of them out there, they were pistol eligible, and one of the coolest roll marks. View Quote The "ar15" marking was one of the reasons I jumped on the 20", that and I just wanted a 20" with a govt profile barrel. I like 20s, what can I say. Carbines are for carrying, rifles are for shootin stuff! |
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Quoted: For complete rifles, I agree that the roll-marked US Property SOCOMs will be most collectible. Regarding Commando lowers, I regret only buying one. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/622/commando1-357356.jpg View Quote I regret only buying two because I wanted to buy like 5 of them. I can't complain though, I called and begged them to send me consecutive serial numbers. They told me I would probably not get that request, but when I got them they were consecutive. |
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what about a cerakote tan? I almost bought one of these from my LGS and kick myself for not getting it... I don't remember it being AU limited edition however. Really low numbers but I only ever saw one.
https://thecoltar15resource.com/le6920-fdec-flat-dark-earth-cerakote/ |
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Quoted: what about a cerakote tan? I almost bought one of these from my LGS and kick myself for not getting it... I don't remember it being AU limited edition however. Really low numbers but I only ever saw one. https://thecoltar15resource.com/le6920-fdec-flat-dark-earth-cerakote/ View Quote Those were AU only. They bought all of them that Colt had from a foreign contract that got canceled. They were different from the regular tan LE6920's that Colt marketed. |
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Quoted: Any speculation on how many of those were produced. You don’t see very many. View Quote I thought I had the numbers posted on my site and now realize that I do not. Uugh. It was either 1000 or 1500. After I get done moving (current house/collection/notes is packed up) I'm going to hit my site hard and get more data/commentary added. My new house isn't done until the end of September. |
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