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Yes. And at $60. I shoulda stacked deep. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes |
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you gotta include me on those distro lists!!!!!!! no holding out!!!!!! View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Gundeals.com was selling them stripped last year. Both DI and piston, dirt cheap. Most likely blems, although what I bought showed zero evidence. I shoulda stacked deep. Stripped FBI bbls were $150. |
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So where can a cage code Colt M4 upper be found (today) ?
Every gb or ee ad I look at seems suspect, now. |
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So where can a cage code Colt M4 upper be found (today) ? Every gb or ee ad I look at seems suspect, now. View Quote Link I personally find the price to be competitive considering these are out of stock everywhere. ThoroughBred is good people. |
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Quoted: @Siam4a1 Link I personally find the price to be competitive considering these are out of stock everywhere. ThoroughBred is good people. View Quote |
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Quoted: @Siam4a1 Link I personally find the price to be competitive considering these are out of stock everywhere. ThoroughBred is good people. View Quote Thanks I have everything I need to transform and match my current Colt cage code M4 urg and got to thinking that all I need is another upper and I’ll have two urgs for the govt property M4A1 lower. Thanks again for the link . In stock. Paid in full. Strange. This oem cage code Colt URG is 75% sourced from random & unknown small shops because the Big Three have no access to these current production parts. Hope it works out as non forgeries or it will have to be Brownells or nothing for Colt parts if the barrel and upper turn out to be knockoffs. ?? |
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. Thanks I have everything I need to transform and match my current Colt cage code M4 urg and got to thinking that all I need is another upper and I’ll have two urgs for the govt property M4A1 lower. Thanks again for the link . In stock. Paid in full. Strange. This oem cage code Colt URG is 75% sourced from random & unknown small shops because the Big Three have no access to these current production parts. Hope it works out as non forgeries or it will have to be Brownells or nothing for Colt parts if the barrel and upper turn out to be knockoffs. ?? View Quote |
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Yeah, I was late to that and your A4 lower. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
Quoted: I sold one on the EE two weeks ago. It literally sold in 59 seconds. I'm planning on buying my first upper reciever for my first SOCOM upper build. I've got the barrel. I have a barreled raised C AF, should I keep that one? |
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Quoted: I recently saw an ad in the EE for new in package Colt upper reciever(s) cage code keyhole & square ...and they were pricey. They appeared to be correct, but i don't know how to authenticate. I'm planning on buying my first upper reciever for my first SOCOM upper build. I've got the barrel. I have a barreled raised C AF, should I keep that one? View Quote As for CAGE marked upper receivers, I saw the EE ad also. Buy from Thoroughbred Armament as linked above if CAGE is what you seek. |
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No thread to put this in and I doubt anyone will care, but I've never seen it before: cage code marked trigger guard. https://i.imgur.com/FqIqeNEl.jpg View Quote |
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Haven't seen that either. Course don't replace that often.
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No thread to put this in and I doubt anyone will care, but I've never seen it before: cage code marked trigger guard. https://i.imgur.com/FqIqeNEl.jpg View Quote |
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No thread to put this in and I doubt anyone will care, but I've never seen it before: cage code marked trigger guard. https://i.imgur.com/FqIqeNEl.jpg View Quote |
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I just grabbed this off of GB. Not sure how it will turn out, but he also has an ar15-a3 lower for sale that it likely came off of.
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Quoted: They may be rejects or more likely old stock. In 2003 to 2005 and the forge codes were not crisp. The aluminum did not flow evenly into the die during forgings. Those uppers look like they are from the rush after the expiration of the AWB in 2004. This is the same era of the 6520s that had unanodized feedramps and no dry lube in the upper. There are 2 or 3 different font styles of raised C keyhole uppers that have been used over the years. View Quote All had the LE Restricted markings. I sold them a year or two ago without ever noticing either "issue". One buyer contacted me to ask about the lack of anodizing and DFL. I had to do research to find out this wasn't uncommon as it seems Colt was sending stocking dealers a pile of guns pending the sunset (anticipating idiots like me willing to pay $1250 for a 6520 and $1350 for a 6920 in 2004 dollars). Buyer wasn't upset just curious. I sent him the original serial numbered receipts for his records. |
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I just grabbed this off of GB. Not sure how it will turn out, but he also has an ar15-a3 lower for sale that it likely came off of. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/442093/C_AF_jpg-899615.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/442093/C_AF2_jpg-899616.JPG View Quote |
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Well, just found this thread today. A little late, however.
Bought it off the EE but the price should have been a warning. My fault. I did notify the seller and am not assuming that he knew it was fake. Live and learn. Right now I'm more interested in the story behind these and how they came to be. |
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Well, just found this thread today. A little late, however. Bought it off the EE but the price should have been a warning. My fault. I did notify the seller and am not assuming that he knew it was fake. Live and learn. Right now I'm more interested in the story behind these and how they came to be. View Quote |
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Spoke to a friend of mine that works at a range in a yuppie part of town. Said in the past few months, they've gotten 3 2019 Colt SOCOMs in. 1 for their stock, and 2 for buyers that had transferred from online purchase. Said all 3 had engraved lowers and looked like chit, almost fake looking like a 80% lowers that he's seen roll through. 2 had just the square forge mark on the upper with no cagecode, and the other had a shot peened cage code with square forge. Also said that the buyers never gave a gave a flying F about any of it as well...just happy to get them.....
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2 had just the square forge mark on the upper with no cagecode View Quote I have seen: keyhole keyhole, C keyhole, cage code square square, Cage code I think thats all I have seen over the past year from RSR. A guy I know got a bunch from them and they had all these different markings. ahh I have also seen complete barreled uppers with just a circle, no C or cage code. I believe they all came off M4 carbine rifles. |
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I have also seen complete barreled uppers with just a circle, no C or cage code. View Quote |
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I have recently seen a handful of new uppers that came like that. just a Square, no other markings in that area. All came from RSR. When you order PN SP63528 it could have various markings on it. I have seen: keyhole keyhole, C keyhole, cage code square square, Cage code I think thats all I have seen over the past year from RSR. A guy I know got a bunch from them and they had all these different markings. ahh I have also seen complete barreled uppers with just a circle, no C or cage code. I believe they all came off M4 carbine rifles. View Quote |
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I see there’s still a recent EE listing with what appears to be one of these fake uppers (T marks not colored in, etc.), and someone withdrew their offer on it. I only recently started paying attention to forge marks as I learned more about them, and it’s clear that there are some variations even on the real (military) Colt / Cerro uppers. That makes it challenging to pick out the fake ones - or may cause people to think that real ones are fake - so I appreciate all the information posted in this thread.
I’ve been searching for a raised C / Cerro upper for about two years now to clone the early 2000s Colt M4 that I carried in Iraq, as I mentioned before. I’ve never been able to catch any of the EE listings in time, but I finally found one on GB. Paid a little more than some that I’ve seen on the EE, but not as much as some crazy prices I’ve seen for them. The placement of the forge marks matches my photos of my old M4. It was described as having been taken off a circa 2004 Colt Tactical Carbine (I believe those were marked AR-15A3?). Definitely used, as described in the ad, but overall in pretty good shape (as good a shape as my issued M4 was in, at least). The front of the receiver around the gas tube is the roughest spot, but that won’t show once it’s assembled. Now I just need to find an early 2000s barrel to go with it. Attached File Attached File Attached File Attached File |
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Yeah, I figured that was residue - it’s baked on there pretty solid, but I think it will come off. I was really referring to all the small scratches on the front of the receiver, I’m guessing from assembly / disassembly, or from someone trying to clean it. The rest of the finish looks pretty fresh and mostly unblemished, except for shiny spots from the charging handle. I basically bought it sight unseen because the photos weren’t showing up on GB for some reason, aside from a small preview photo, so I was pretty happy with its condition when it arrived.
Edit: Cleaned up nicely, easier than I expected with some Slip2000 and elbow grease. I think the small scratches I was seeing were just lint and small bits of residue that were catching the light in the camera. Attached File |
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As stated, the "O" marked upper receivers were from the Expanse line. Precision Forge. View Quote |
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Colt Cardinal Forge Upper
I'm was on the rocks about this one but I am pretty sure it is legit. The only concerns were it appears stripped. Quoted:
yup, still a colt upper though. View Quote |
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Not on either of the Expanse rifles I have. Thinking I got mine when they were getting rid of 6920 parts / receivers. Should have bought many more when they were readily available... View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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As stated, the "O" marked upper receivers were from the Expanse line. Precision Forge. Should have bought many more when they were readily available... Many Expanse were unmarked altogether. |
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Not saying all had them. But I've not seen a Precision forge marked receiver on another Colt M4. Many Expanse were unmarked altogether. View Quote I never followed the release of the Expanse, but I've seen that forge mark on AO Precision upper receivers, PSA uppers, as well as Centurion Arms. But like you said, never a Colt. |
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The "O" forge mark is from Performance Forge. I never followed the release of the Expanse, but I've seen that forge mark on AO Precision upper receivers, PSA uppers, as well as Centurion Arms. But like you said, never a Colt. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Not saying all had them. But I've not seen a Precision forge marked receiver on another Colt M4. Many Expanse were unmarked altogether. I never followed the release of the Expanse, but I've seen that forge mark on AO Precision upper receivers, PSA uppers, as well as Centurion Arms. But like you said, never a Colt. PERFORMANCE not Precision. Dammit, getting old sucks. And 10-4...common on all 3 mfgrs listed above. Another edit: I'm batting zero on memory lane here. PSA acquired SIGMA PRECISION's forge mark. The stylized "S" marking. Not Performance Forge. Anyway.....back to the Colt shit. |
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YES, you are correct. My bad. PERFORMANCE not Precision. Dammit, getting old sucks. And 10-4...common on all 3 mfgrs listed above. Eta: just to mix shit up some....PSA Rep Josiah stated ~14 months ago that PSA now owns that forge code/symbol. Being that they are now forging capable, I would have thought that they would have established a PSA unique symbol rather than acquire an existing. View Quote |
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only problem is if you sell only the upper receiver and no barrel, you can't particularly prove it is a Colt receiver. View Quote A few examples: uppers fire control components bolt carriers charging handles bolts etc |
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What do you all think of this one that recently sold on the EE?
The font looks good, but the location is different from all the Colt Cerro uppers I’ve seen, including the one I posted above: Attached File I was considering contacting the buyer to recommend that they check it. |
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What do you all think of this one that recently sold on the EE? https://i.imgur.com/3ODScQT.jpg The font looks good, but the location is different from all the Colt Cerro uppers I’ve seen, including the one I posted above: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/27888/1FEB821C-2B1B-4303-A576-CBBF919E9D62_jpeg-972488.JPG I was considering contacting the buyer to recommend that they check it. View Quote Edit: Maybe not.... |
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What do you all think of this one that recently sold on the EE? https://i.imgur.com/3ODScQT.jpg The font looks good, but the location is different from all the Colt Cerro uppers I’ve seen, including the one I posted above: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/27888/1FEB821C-2B1B-4303-A576-CBBF919E9D62_jpeg-972488.JPG I was considering contacting the buyer to recommend that they check it. View Quote bottom picture is GTG |
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