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Posted: 12/29/2019 11:11:12 PM EDT
[Last Edit: papabear1868]
I just recently purchased your Razor HD-E 1-6x JM1 and it’s absolutely perfect for my 13.9 AR. Do you potentially have any plans for a Razor HD-E 1-8x optic in the pipeline? I’d be in for one instantly especially if it comes in the same tan color as the 1-6!
Edit: The Gen III 1-10X is even better than a 1-8! |
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Originally Posted By papabear1868:
I just recently purchased your Razor HD-E 1-6x JM1 and it's absolutely perfect for my 13.9 AR. Do you potentially have any plans for a Razor HD-E 1-8x optic in the pipeline? I'd be in for one instantly especially if it comes in the same tan color as the 1-6! View Quote |
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Originally Posted By UncleverUsername: Guess you guys decided to skip the 8x? https://scontent-dfw5-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/fr/cp0/e15/q65/81112375_10156631482801237_2633256170143350784_n.jpg?_nc_cat=107&efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&_nc_ohc=kRDFKZM5IDoAQkkjbpir2IWTuu2hDEMQv3RFSmRExfNe0EA5KOYJPRNhw&_nc_ht=scontent-dfw5-2.xx&oh=849a89e14d9c27ec9f04c7fea02c7ace&oe=5EA2530A View Quote |
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Hashtag interested!
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Damn, I am impressed Vortex! In for one once they’re released
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When will these be shipping?
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The worst is yet to come!
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"Putting a cheap scope on a good rifle is like asking to have one nut gold plated and the other crushed in a rusty vise." - HeavyMetal
"Fear the man with one gun, he will know how to use it." |
Vortex Razor HD Gen III 1-10x24 is pre-order available.
https://www.sportoptics.com/vortex-razor-gen-iii-scopes.aspx |
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Was about to throw down on a NF ATACR 1-8 but going to pump the brakes now.
Freaking love my big Razor HD Gen II. |
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The worst is yet to come!
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It looks like an awesome scope and I haves high hopes for it.
Comments: Thanks for including the switchview. You increased the tube diameter to 34mm but couldn’t increase objective diameter? I know you are pushing the bleeding edge of physics and optic design but 28-30mm isn’t too much to hope for? Will a user see any difference between the Gen ll/lll 1x? Any comparisons are naturally subjective but can you comment on brightness, especially at low light and distortion at top magnification compared to Gen II? I will be watching user feedback with great interest. Was the reticle changed to a smaller/more precise aiming point? Given the higher magnification and my old eyes... If it’s anything comparable to the Gen II it’s a big step forward. Huge. Good job. |
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The reticle does have a smaller 1 moa dot for precise shooting. You can see the info here.
https://vortexoptics.com/riflescopes/vortex-razor-gen-iii-riflescopes/vortex-razor-hd-gen-iii-1-10x24-riflescope.html?vortex_reticle=18079 |
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That’s really nice. Surprising how different the mrad and moa reticles are.
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I would like one with a JM-1 or VMR-2 MOA Ret
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Originally Posted By Arlis:
It looks like an awesome scope and I haves high hopes for it. Comments: Thanks for including the switchview. You increased the tube diameter to 34mm but couldn't increase objective diameter? I know you are pushing the bleeding edge of physics and optic design but 28-30mm isn't too much to hope for? Will a user see any difference between the Gen ll/lll 1x? Any comparisons are naturally subjective but can you comment on brightness, especially at low light and distortion at top magnification compared to Gen II? I will be watching user feedback with great interest. Was the reticle changed to a smaller/more precise aiming point? Given the higher magnification and my old eyes... If it's anything comparable to the Gen II it's a big step forward. Huge. Good job. View Quote Objective size - our optical engineers made it 24mm for a very good reason. Everyone loves a bigger objective, but a 24mm objective actually gives us better optical quality than a larger objective would, and maximizing the performance of the many other important lenses behind that one objective lens helped ensure every last bit of the light making it into the system is used as efficiently as possible, so this thing still does very well in low light. In the end - 24mm is the best choice, so that's why we made the choice. Gen III has been widely regarded by those who have tested the two scopes side-by-side to be better on 1x. Top magnification in low light is apples-to-oranges when comparing these two scopes because it's 10x compared to 6x so of course the 10x will be a bit less bright than 6x - that's a huge difference even with a much better optical system. When comparing them at similar magnifications, the 6x performance in the Gen III is certainly better. There is no issue at 10x either, but again, the comparison just can't be made as though it's apples-to-apples. |
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My buddy Tony handled it at SHOT and said it was AWESOME! This scope is the main reason I am upset I couldn't make it to SHOT this year. Well only a few more months to get it in hand won't be bad.
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Well I couldn’t stand it any longer. Went ahead and pre-ordered one!
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The worst is yet to come!
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VortexOptics any idea when more of the 1-10 with the MRAD reticle will be shipping out to distributors?
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Originally Posted By Chrisdamage: VortexOptics any idea when more of the 1-10 with the MRAD reticle will be shipping out to distributors? View Quote |
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There is no retreat but in submission and slavery!
VA, USA
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I just hit two months waiting, but as long as I have it for Cola East in October I'll be happy.
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I knew Ambien wasn't for me after I ate two entire holiday pies that were needed for the next day and spent thousands of dollars online while eating them.
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There is no retreat but in submission and slavery!
VA, USA
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Plz Mr Vortex gibs razor 1-10x
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I knew Ambien wasn't for me after I ate two entire holiday pies that were needed for the next day and spent thousands of dollars online while eating them.
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We're doing our best. Unfortunately this is the case for many people out there. It's been a wild year - really hope we can make it happen for you
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There is no retreat but in submission and slavery!
VA, USA
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Originally Posted By VortexOptics: We're doing our best. Unfortunately this is the case for many people out there. It's been a wild year - really hope we can make it happen for you View Quote I totally understand. I just want 10x goodness. I should have bought them when they first came out! I think I get to play with one this weekend at Cola Warrior. I will be posting pictures of it to an obnoxious level when it does come in. |
I knew Ambien wasn't for me after I ate two entire holiday pies that were needed for the next day and spent thousands of dollars online while eating them.
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There is no retreat but in submission and slavery!
VA, USA
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I knew Ambien wasn't for me after I ate two entire holiday pies that were needed for the next day and spent thousands of dollars online while eating them.
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at waht distnace should you be using a 1-10x? 1-8x? and 1-6X?
does this scope require battery? what less expensive vortex options are there? |
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Originally Posted By JG_Wentworth: at waht distnace should you be using a 1-10x? 1-8x? and 1-6X? does this scope require battery? what less expensive vortex options are there? View Quote 2) This scope does not "Require" a battery - the reticle is there regardless of whether or not it is illuminated and will appear as just a black reticle. If you wish to illuminate it red for low light scenarios, or to aid in getting your eye to acquire the reticle more quickly in daylight, then you would need a battery to make that work. 3) The next step down would be the Razor HD Gen II 1-6x at $1400. From there, the next step down would be the Viper PST Gen II 1-6x at $700. Both those options are phenomenal and have been around for many years in use by Mil/LE/competitive shooters/etc. |
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Where does one find these for sale?
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There is no retreat but in submission and slavery!
VA, USA
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I knew Ambien wasn't for me after I ate two entire holiday pies that were needed for the next day and spent thousands of dollars online while eating them.
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There is no retreat but in submission and slavery!
VA, USA
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Originally Posted By Radio_Free_ARFCOM: Thanks for the advice my friend. I'm on it! View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Radio_Free_ARFCOM: Originally Posted By WhiskersTheCat: Go to a reputable dealer and put one on backorder. They're totally worth it. Thanks for the advice my friend. I'm on it! It's amazing. I love everything about it. Great glass Great magnification options I love the off between brightness settings, and pull out to adjust. Windage and elevation adjustments can be set back to 0 after you've zeroed the optic, so you always have a starting point. Even the box is really nice. They even include two batteries. Overall 10/10 (no pun intended) |
I knew Ambien wasn't for me after I ate two entire holiday pies that were needed for the next day and spent thousands of dollars online while eating them.
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There is no retreat but in submission and slavery!
VA, USA
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Originally Posted By 42769vette: https://aaoptics.com/RAZOR%C2%AE-HD-GEN-III-1-10X24-FFP-MRAD-_p_706.html In stock as of this post View Quote That place is good to go, owner is a member here. |
I knew Ambien wasn't for me after I ate two entire holiday pies that were needed for the next day and spent thousands of dollars online while eating them.
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@VortexOptics
Are we still looking at about a Feb-Mar restock of the Gen IIIs? |
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Originally Posted By sconnieVLP: @VortexOptics Are we still looking at about a Feb-Mar restock of the Gen IIIs? View Quote |
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What is the available windage in the bottom 5 mils of elevation?
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The reticle is for holds. The erector tube becomes mechanically limited in one axis when near the limits of adjustment in the other axis, often where you need it the most. At extended ranges you may use most of the available elevation which typically begins to limit the available windage depending on the mechanical limits of the scope, hence my question.
Real world shooting you generally dial for elevation, hold for wind but I don’t want to bake in this limitation if it is very restricting. I am picking out a mount and would prefer a Geissele but a) they don’t make a 10moa cant, b) 20moa, if you can find one is likely to be too much for this scope and it was the default solution in the rainbow days of .308, c) spuhr/other is pricey and may not be necessary. |
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I understand all that. I thought you were wondering about the reticle. Honestly I would not be dialing anything with this optic except to get it zeroed as I can hold for everything out to almost 1000 yards.
The scope has 30 mils or 120 moa so you can get a 40 moa mount and be fine with zeroing lower in the travel so when you dial up you will have more windage available if you wanted to dial that also. |
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Sorry I wasn’t clear. That makes sense. I was looking at a ballistics chart and getting over 1000 yards you are near 13 mils and climbing. If you have an adjustment “range” of 30 mils you are starting at about center possibly losing a bit to zero leaving 14-ish mils to work with. See why I’m asking? And your right about holds, I just don’t want to lose the option to dial.
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And why I said get a 20-40 moa base and you will be fine. That will add about 6-12 mils in available elevation readjustment so would give you more up elevation to dial and when out at longer ranges be more centered so more available windage. Get at least 20 moa if you plan on dialing and worried about dialing wind.
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Would you have a line on a Geissele 05-422S?
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I'd like to mount this scope on a 308 Ar-15. The LaRue Lt-104 mounts are currently on back order. Do any of you have a good experience with other mounts like the Scalar Leap mount? Any recommendations on what you have used and recommend? Also, has anyone fitted the Butler Creek Flip Open Scope Covers and do you know the size that fit the best? Thanks.
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Originally Posted By WhiskersTheCat: My Vortex 1-10 got run over by an ATV with a Scalarworks LEAP and it held zero fine. Can recommend. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/425212/20211016_135934-2132414.jpg View Quote Is the 1.57 inch height good or do you need the 1.9 height? Thanks. |
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