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theres also a video of it on the website http://www.armytimes.com/ .
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The Army Times gets all orgasmic over pretty much any niche weapon you can immagine...
Although this is USUALLY reserved for HK products, it does rub off on anything in the 'Fish Gun' range... |
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The Army Times gets all orgasmic over pretty much any niche weapon you can immagine... Although this is USUALLY reserved for HK products, it does rub off on anything in the 'Fish Gun' range... yep, I remember when they were drooling all over the XM8, and look where that went. Who knows, I would like to see the ACR have a place in our military..........and in my gun safe |
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i just noticed the article said they plan on having the mil one in tan, and commercial one in black , that kind of makes me sad/
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i just noticed the article said they plan on having the mil one in tan, and commercial one in black , that kind of makes me sad/ What should make you sad is this line. "Here's what's on the horizon as carbine competition looms" And this one. "As the army prepares for a possible carbine competition this fall, small-arms companies are getting ready." That means the competition hasn't even happened yet. And if that is this years paper, then that means this weapon won't be out this year for civilians. We might see it in 2012 if we're lucky. |
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i just noticed the article said they plan on having the mil one in tan, and commercial one in black , that kind of makes me sad/ What should make you sad is this line. "Here's what's on the horizon as carbine competition looms" And this one. "As the army prepares for a possible carbine competition this fall, small-arms companies are getting ready." That means the competition hasn't even happened yet. And if that is this years paper, then that means this weapon won't be out this year for civilians. We might see it in 2012 is we're lucky. eh im not really worried about if it takes a few extra years for it to come out, if i can carry a better weapon when i enlist then it will be worth it. |
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Is Army Times any different than most media outlets? Most of them just slavishly re-use the corporate press releases they are handed
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i just noticed the article said they plan on having the mil one in tan, and commercial one in black , that kind of makes me sad/ I am so pissed. What is the damn reasoning behind that... |
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I would be happy to see the US Military toting Remington ACRs. definite +1 and im right there with you rws591. |
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Quoted: I would be happy to see the US Military toting Remington ACRs. That would definitely be a plus to get me to join. |
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i just noticed the article said they plan on having the mil one in tan, and commercial one in black , that kind of makes me sad/ What should make you sad is this line. "Here's what's on the horizon as carbine competition looms" And this one. "As the army prepares for a possible carbine competition this fall, small-arms companies are getting ready." That means the competition hasn't even happened yet. And if that is this years paper, then that means this weapon won't be out this year for civilians. We might see it in 2012 if we're lucky. You're right...and those sentence constructions are PAINFUL. Looming horizons? The competition isn't also on the horizon, but looms separately somehow? |
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i just noticed the article said they plan on having the mil one in tan, and commercial one in black , that kind of makes me sad/ What should make you sad is this line. "Here's what's on the horizon as carbine competition looms" And this one. "As the army prepares for a possible carbine competition this fall, small-arms companies are getting ready." That means the competition hasn't even happened yet. And if that is this years paper, then that means this weapon won't be out this year for civilians. We might see it in 2012 if we're lucky. You're right...and those sentence constructions are PAINFUL. Looming horizons? The competition isn't also on the horizon, but looms separately somehow? What "looms" is another Infantry Weapon Trial and a general at the Pentagon deciding that the M4 is still the ideal weapon, even when compared with the Masada |
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You can always spray paint it... Can't they just do it for me... What is the big deal with selling two different color weapons? Not to mention that I believe that Magpuls FDE sells pretty well compared to black. |
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You can always spray paint it... Can't they just do it for me... What is the big deal with selling two different color weapons? Not to mention that I believe that Magpuls FDE sells pretty well compared to black. Who says they will NEVER sell it other colors? Remember when the PS90 and FS2000 were only available to civilians in OD Green? Now you can get them in black, because that's what consumers demanded. I'm sure if enough people want the ACR in FDE they'll do it FDE. |
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Who says they will NEVER sell it other colors? Remember when the PS90 and FS2000 were only available to civilians in OD Green? Now you can get them in black, because that's what consumers demanded. I'm sure if enough people want the ACR in FDE they'll do it FDE. Good point, but I have been, as well as everyone else who has been following this rifle, waiting long enough to get my hands on one of these. I want it yesterday, and I want it in FDE. |
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The Masada was delayed so that it could be modified to meet the requirements of this carbine competition, right?
But have the requirements of the competition been released yet? |
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You can always spray paint it... Not to mention that I believe that Magpuls FDE sells pretty well compared to black. You'd be suprised. Black is by far the most popular color, by a long shot. |
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BREAKING NEWS:
30 Year Long U.S. Department of Defense Rifle/Carbine Trials Enters "New Phase": A highly placed identified anonomyous source was officialy quoted off the record as stating "We have potential to possibly be reaching the end of the beginning of the middle of the selection process to determine prospective timetables to replace the M16/M4 platform decision making process with a new one." |
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BLACK is the only color I'd want.
Speaking of FDE, I've seen too many STAINED FDE polymer out there. What does one use to clean the polymer with? Oils/Etc seems to discolor the FDE, leaving an unpleasant appearance. Seen one stock that was damn near black due to the discoloration at a local show. What are folks using to clean/remove the discoloration of FDE synthtic? |
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You can always spray paint it... Not to mention that I believe that Magpuls FDE sells pretty well compared to black. You'd be suprised. Black is by far the most popular color, by a long shot. I am, looks like I stand to be corrected. |
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The only thing I can see that I have a question about is whether the "working wrench" that provides for the toolless (more like a built in tool) quick-change of the barrel will hold steady or rattle around in the handguard.
Other than that it looks like a rock solid platform. Caveman simple gas piston system, looks like a good solid stock, and I think people who question polymer lower receivers are stuck in some kind of time warp and beyond help. Pretty much what you're looking for spec wise in a rifle. Of course, we all know how there are about a million different tolerance things that come into play in whether every part will work in concert and only time will bear out whether that is a problem or not. Looks excellent on paper. I can't think of much more you could do with the current technology of today to have a better rifle without going way off the reservation on something that probably wouldn't work. It's a very modern rifle based on conservative time-proven designs. |
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BREAKING NEWS: 30 Year Long U.S. Department of Defense Rifle/Carbine Trials Enters "New Phase": A highly placed identified anonomyous source was officialy quoted off the record as stating "We have potential to possibly be reaching the end of the beginning of the middle of the selection process to determine prospective timetables to replace the M16/M4 platform decision making process with a new one." Wow, that's a lot of words to say nothing. |
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You can always spray paint it... Not to mention that I believe that Magpuls FDE sells pretty well compared to black. You'd be suprised. Black is by far the most popular color, by a long shot. will the slimmer handguard, aka the 'original' handguard be an option or perhaps available separately? http://www.danpassaro.com/img/v3/p520775002.jpg I'd bet $5 that the Remington Military version of the ACR will be FDE and have the railed handguard and that the Bushmaster civvie version will be black with the plastic handguard. Just like the one above, only in black. -ZA |
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I just hope that the arbitrary dickslapping Cerberus took with the whole Chrysler nationalization horse**** might get karmically balanced out by Remington/Bushmaster and MagPul getting this contract.
Even if it's some frankenstien-ized version of the original - MagPul furniture, Remington Receiver/Operating Components, Barrels/Bolts from elsewhere. I just with the haters were less adamant about putting MagPul into InfoSec mode - I'd love to see some development pictures of a 6.8 or 5.45 version. |
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The important thing is to get your foot in door, then wedge your way in. Remember, the Army's original purchase of M16 was only supposed to be a one-time buy to tide the Army over until the SPIW was ready.
The other thing to remember is that the Army Times is owned and operated by Gannett, the same folks who put out USA Today. |
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I take it the army has provided absolutely no feedback from the carbine trials yet?
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I take it the army has provided absolutely no feedback from the carbine trials yet? i dont believe he trials have started yet, i think its suppose to "start" later this summer after colts contract ends.. and colts contract ends at the end of June right? |
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I take it the army has provided absolutely no feedback from the carbine trials yet? i dont believe he trials have started yet, i think its suppose to "start" later this summer after colts contract ends.. and colts contract ends at the end of June right? There has been no official solicitation yet to outline the requirements for the future carbine. Without that, you can't expect to have any sort of competitive trials. Colt's sole source rights to the M4 Technical Data Package ends on June 30, not its current contract. Under the terms of the contract, the military can keep placing delivery orders through December 31, 2010. Last week's delivery order stretches out M4 deliveries to at least the end of March 2011. |
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I take it the army has provided absolutely no feedback from the carbine trials yet? i dont believe he trials have started yet, i think its suppose to "start" later this summer after colts contract ends.. and colts contract ends at the end of June right? There has been no official solicitation yet to outline the requirements for the future carbine. Without that, you can't expect to have any sort of competitive trials. Colt's sole source rights to the M4 Technical Data Package ends on June 30, not its current contract. Under the terms of the contract, the military can keep placing delivery orders through December 31, 2010. Last week's delivery order stretches out M4 deliveries to at least the end of March 2011. meant Solicitation was suppose to come out this summer( jumbled that in with trial, and shouldn't have), but that's part of my odd though process. sorry didn't mean contract, meant TDP, thanks. |
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i just noticed the article said they plan on having the mil one in tan, and commercial one in black , that kind of makes me sad/ What should make you sad is this line. "Here's what's on the horizon as carbine competition looms" And this one. "As the army prepares for a possible carbine competition this fall, small-arms companies are getting ready." That means the competition hasn't even happened yet. And if that is this years paper, then that means this weapon won't be out this year for civilians. We might see it in 2012 if we're lucky. Just in time for TEOTWAWKI! |
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I was told by bushmaster when I cancelled a order last month that june 9 was the start of the main showdown for the m4 replacement.
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