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Originally Posted By SuperJlarge:
Ready for tomorrow... https://i.imgur.com/YzzoUsf.jpg 80 eld, 95smk https://i.imgur.com/PBEwUbF.jpg 95smk, 80eld, 75eld & 77smk comparison pic https://i.imgur.com/9CP418s.jpg I also grabbed some 52smk’s to pair with the 52 eld’s I grabbed a few weeks back. Not exactly what one person requested (53gr Vmax) to be tested in the DD barrel, but I think it could be used in his discipline. The short range precision is supposed to be great with these. View Quote |
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I don’t sort by weight. In my experience, there’s no need, and certainly not for 100yd groups to shoot sub half moa. Maybe if I was shooting sub .1moa groups it would be a worthwhile endeavor, but even then I’m not sure. |
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Thanks for the updates !
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*Hold on to your AR-15s. Their magic must be very powerful, or they wouldn’t want them.*
JAFOM.... Just another fat old man. TOGC,IADC |
Such a great thread.
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"Have a smile for breakfast, you'll be shitting joy by lunch.” - Joe Abercrombie
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Originally Posted By USMC_JA:
Such a great thread. View Quote |
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@USMC_JA
Thanks for the kind words and congrats on the sharp build! Check out Global Ordnance if you’re looking for some ammo to try. They are a site sponsor/vendor and currently have a special going with ADI 69gr 223 ammo. Probably not ideal for longer range, but it’s good stuff for 100-300yd shooting. |
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Originally Posted By SuperJlarge:
@USMC_JA Thanks for the kind words and congrats on the sharp build! Check out Global Ordnance if you’re looking for some ammo to try. They are a site sponsor/vendor and currently have a special going with ADI 69gr 223 ammo. Probably not ideal for longer range, but it’s good stuff for 100-300yd shooting. View Quote ETA: I bought some anyway. |
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"Have a smile for breakfast, you'll be shitting joy by lunch.” - Joe Abercrombie
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Double post
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"Have a smile for breakfast, you'll be shitting joy by lunch.” - Joe Abercrombie
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Maybe I missed it, but have you tested the X-Caliber barrel yet?
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What is best in life? To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of their women!
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What is best in life? To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of their women!
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Awesome shooting! Bartlein barrels are stellar! I run them exclusively on my bolt match rifles.
Is the flier the first or last round fired? There may be some factors other than the trigger puller at play since it’s present in both groups. Can you measure the BTO on the BH 75gr load? |
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@USMC_JA
Thanks for the info. I’d still recommend getting a comparator kit for gaining accuracy. Hornady Comparator Kit |
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Glad some of you are getting to shoot. I’m still trying to get my new “office” in order following a move.
Still waiting on some SS pegboards, shelving and hauling the remaining items in, but it’s a start. Hopefully I’ll be ready to load and shoot by next weekend. |
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Originally Posted By SuperJlarge:
@USMC_JA Thanks for the info. I’d still recommend getting a comparator kit for gaining accuracy. Hornady Comparator Kit View Quote Cool piece of gear. Appreciate the tip. I'll pick one up. |
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"Have a smile for breakfast, you'll be shitting joy by lunch.” - Joe Abercrombie
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Originally Posted By USMC_JA: In other words, "that measurement you took doesn't tell me shit, but thanks for trying." Cool piece of gear. Appreciate the tip. I'll pick one up. View Quote It’ll help you in the long run. The meplats on most BTHP or polymer tips aren’t uniform, so you’ll see far more variance with them within a lot of bullets than you will typically see with the ogives. |
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Originally Posted By HighpowerRifleBrony:
The DD is a 16" carbine? From it, I'd like to see the performance of- Factory ammo: Hornady 75gr Match Handloads: 75/77gr BTHP over 24 - 24.5gr Varget. 50/53gr VMAX over 25 - 25.5gr Varget. The 53g VMAX is slick; might need to jump another 0.020" at 2.23-2.24" OAL if the ogive allows. View Quote I also grabbed some of the new FGMM 90gr rounds to try out in the 2 Valkyrie barrels. |
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Originally Posted By SuperJlarge:
Between a crazy work schedule, building a few bolt guns and getting the kids ready for the school year, range time has been limited. The few times I have been out have been to get rifles zeroed or to attend a local match. I ran the WOA 224Valkyrie in a local precision match over the weekend with the FGMM, and while it didn’t win the match, it did get the highest score on the 515yd stage engaging a 2” vertical ruler, 6” square, diamond and then the coyote with 3 shots on each. The first shot on the ruler missed by approximately an inch to the left. I made the wind correction by holding right edge and drilled it for the next two shots and cleaned the remaining targets. The FGMM has decent velocity and relatively low std. deviation for factory ammo. Combine that with the precision that it yields, and the 224Valkyrie is doing what I had envisioned. A soft recoiling semi-auto precision rifle that can perform well with off the shelf ammo. Hopefully it does well with the Berger 80.5 fullbore factory ammo as well, I just haven’t found any available for purchase yet. https://i.imgur.com/Xuj4VW1.jpg https://i.imgur.com/V7k6V9W.jpg https://i.imgur.com/qhUXXLD.jpg View Quote |
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Originally Posted By SpeyRod:
This is enough to tempt my to try the 224. Good shooting... View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By SpeyRod:
Originally Posted By SuperJlarge:
Between a crazy work schedule, building a few bolt guns and getting the kids ready for the school year, range time has been limited. The few times I have been out have been to get rifles zeroed or to attend a local match. I ran the WOA 224Valkyrie in a local precision match over the weekend with the FGMM, and while it didn’t win the match, it did get the highest score on the 515yd stage engaging a 2” vertical ruler, 6” square, diamond and then the coyote with 3 shots on each. The first shot on the ruler missed by approximately an inch to the left. I made the wind correction by holding right edge and drilled it for the next two shots and cleaned the remaining targets. The FGMM has decent velocity and relatively low std. deviation for factory ammo. Combine that with the precision that it yields, and the 224Valkyrie is doing what I had envisioned. A soft recoiling semi-auto precision rifle that can perform well with off the shelf ammo. Hopefully it does well with the Berger 80.5 fullbore factory ammo as well, I just haven’t found any available for purchase yet. https://i.imgur.com/Xuj4VW1.jpg https://i.imgur.com/V7k6V9W.jpg https://i.imgur.com/qhUXXLD.jpg |
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Chicken Farmer by choice hunter of shade tree's and hiding spots by nature.
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I’ve got a couple .308 uppers I’m going to loan to the cause next weekend. One has a 20” Fulton Armory M110 barrel and the other has a 16” Bergara barrel that I picked up to try for $100.
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Originally Posted By 50ttop:
I’ve got a couple .308 uppers I’m going to loan to the cause next weekend. One has a 20” Fulton Armory M110 barrel and the other has a 16” Bergara barrel that I picked up to try for $100. View Quote It may be awhile before I get to run them, as I have a medical procedure that may leave me home bound for 4-6weeks. Getting old sucks! |
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No rush, I’ve got several other projects on the table at this time anyway
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Originally Posted By SuperJlarge: Thanks bud! I’ve got a bunch of 6.5grendel loads worked up that you’re welcome to try in your Howa mini, as well as brass and projectiles. It may be awhile before I get to run them, as I have a medical procedure that may leave me home bound for 4-6weeks. Getting old sucks! View Quote |
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Special thanks to @50ttop. He’s supplied me with two quality uppers to try as well as some ammo to assist with testing. Hopefully I’ll get to try them out soon, as well as a few others. I didn’t even fire my AR’s at the GAHTF moa shoot this past weekend, but the host of the event did get moa or better with the WOA barreled 224Valkyrie and FGMM.
I’ve been slack, but this thread should pick up soon now that the risk of a heat stroke will be going down in the next month or so. |
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If you need any more .308 Ammo I’ll see what I can swing
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Well I guess since you have a large frame, if you want a .260 to test me me know. I owe, I owe...
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Cincinnatus
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Originally Posted By SuperJlarge:
I didn’t shoot my gassers, but I let @gahunter95 try out the 224Valkyrie. He managed .80moa without ever shooting it or taking warm up shots. Based on the groups after the first strings, I think the can loosened up during a cooling cycle, but it was still good shooting. 22” WOA, FGMM 90gr https://i.imgur.com/VVL2cOX.jpg View Quote I shot that target in about 5 mins. That rifle is capable of much more! I need to practice more. |
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Get involved with your local ranges and HTF events.
Range time >> post count. |
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Boredom has set in. I decided to take some measurements of the factory ammo that I’ve been testing, which potentially could be beneficial for reloaders. Listed values are the average BTO from 5 random samples. I don’t measure overall length for my purposes due to significant variation with meplats, but I can get that data if it’s helpful.
223 Hornady 75gr HPBT 1.8345” BTO Hornady Black 75gr HPBT 1.8545” BTO Lot#2 1.8430 BTO Both lots range between 2.251-2.255 COAL Black Hills Remanufactured (blue box) 75gr HPBT 1.8490” BTO Hornady Steel Match 75gr HPBT 1.8705” BTO FGMM 77gr SMK 1.8710” BTO Magtech 77gr SMK 1.8570” BTO ADI 69gr SMK 1.8505” BTO 224 Valkyrie Hornady Black 75gr HPBT 1.6750” BTO Federal AE 75gr TMJ 1.7210” BTO Hornady Match 88gr ELD-M 1.6805” BTO FGMM 90gr SMK 1.7345” BTO Edit: Began loading some 75’s to test and noticed my Hornady Black copies were at 2.271 COAL based on trying to copy the BTO measurements from the box that I previously measured. I grabbed a second box and noticed a significant difference in the BTO measurement, but the overall COAL was very similar. While I measure all of my loads based on BTO, it’s important when working with a new bullet or lot to ensure they will fit in a magazine if that’s their intended purpose. |
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Nice!
Get to work Large. |
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So, it looks like I’ll be trying out a LaRue ultimate upper kit in the future. Is there a particular one that anyone would like evaluated? I’m currently leaning towards 6.5 grendel and 6.5 creedmoor, but I’m open to suggestions.
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Grendel is the more interesting one to me.
Mainly because already have a 6.5 CM. |
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I'd second Grendel. Mine wants to play but it is suffering from bad glass right now, I've had a lot of groups that are really good but haven't shot it specifically for groups much.
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