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Posted: 4/18/2020 7:16:31 PM EDT
Anyone used a tripod for Precision Rifle? I've read about the RRS but can't drop that kinda money on a tripod right now. Any thoughts on the Predator Tactics Deadeye Tripod System? How would it compare to the Nightstalker or the Shadowtech Pig 0311? These are the three that I've narrowed my search down to at this point. I'll hang up and listen...
Link Posted: 4/18/2020 7:26:25 PM EDT
[Last Edit: AKSnowRider] [#1]
I am not a competitive shooter, but I do use a tripod for shooting once in a while..with that said, I have had great results with this newer carbon fiber tripod..it has zero issues holding my 16 pd long range hunting rifle... and the price is stupid cheap for what you get...130 bucks....out of stock now, but they will be back in stock soon..the same company makes a slightly lighter rated version as well...




https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01I1C8VGI/ref=emc_b_5_t

This looks like the same tripod in orange or blue for 120 bucks..
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B013YDWYK8/ref=sspa_dk_detail_1?pd_rd_i=B013YDWYK8&pd_rd_w=Y0ky7&pf_rd_p=48d372c1-f7e1-4b8b-9d02-4bd86f5158c5&pd_rd_wg=TijOD&pf_rd_r=XATS8DYWZV9R059MK5AC&pd_rd_r=bb8c64f6-d9b9-43f3-9d57-ff7541b344b4&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUEzN1gyWkdLWDlMN0ZaJmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwODkyMDU2M1JUS0NHU1JPSk1JRCZlbmNyeXB0ZWRBZElkPUEwMDA2MTQ5NjJSTjFEUzlWRFo2JndpZGdldE5hbWU9c3BfZGV0YWlsJmFjdGlvbj1jbGlja1JlZGlyZWN0JmRvTm90TG9nQ2xpY2s9dHJ1ZQ&th=1
Link Posted: 4/18/2020 7:53:53 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By AKSnowRider:
I am not a competitive shooter, but I do use a tripod for shooting once in a while..with that said, I have had great results with this newer carbon fiber tripod..it has zero issues holding my 16 pd long range hunting rifle... and the price is stupid cheap for what you get...130 bucks....out of stock now, but they will be back in stock soon..the same company makes a slightly lighter rated version as well...




https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01I1C8VGI/ref=emc_b_5_t

This looks like the same tripod in orange or blue for 120 bucks..
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B013YDWYK8/ref=sspa_dk_detail_1?pd_rd_i=B013YDWYK8&pd_rd_w=Y0ky7&pf_rd_p=48d372c1-f7e1-4b8b-9d02-4bd86f5158c5&pd_rd_wg=TijOD&pf_rd_r=XATS8DYWZV9R059MK5AC&pd_rd_r=bb8c64f6-d9b9-43f3-9d57-ff7541b344b4&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUEzN1gyWkdLWDlMN0ZaJmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwODkyMDU2M1JUS0NHU1JPSk1JRCZlbmNyeXB0ZWRBZElkPUEwMDA2MTQ5NjJSTjFEUzlWRFo2JndpZGdldE5hbWU9c3BfZGV0YWlsJmFjdGlvbj1jbGlja1JlZGlyZWN0JmRvTm90TG9nQ2xpY2s9dHJ1ZQ&th=1
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I've seen this one in the past. I definitely like the idea of carbon fiber. What mount do you use?
Link Posted: 4/18/2020 8:31:36 PM EDT
[Last Edit: MarkHatfield] [#3]
snowrider:  Are you clamping the rifle onto the tripod or simply resting it?  If clamping, what device do you use?
Link Posted: 4/18/2020 8:33:52 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By AKSnowRider:
I am not a competitive shooter, but I do use a tripod for shooting once in a while..with that said, I have had great results with this newer carbon fiber tripod..it has zero issues holding my 16 pd long range hunting rifle... and the price is stupid cheap for what you get...130 bucks....out of stock now, but they will be back in stock soon..the same company makes a slightly lighter rated version as well...




https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01I1C8VGI/ref=emc_b_5_t

This looks like the same tripod in orange or blue for 120 bucks..
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B013YDWYK8/ref=sspa_dk_detail_1?pd_rd_i=B013YDWYK8&pd_rd_w=Y0ky7&pf_rd_p=48d372c1-f7e1-4b8b-9d02-4bd86f5158c5&pd_rd_wg=TijOD&pf_rd_r=XATS8DYWZV9R059MK5AC&pd_rd_r=bb8c64f6-d9b9-43f3-9d57-ff7541b344b4&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUEzN1gyWkdLWDlMN0ZaJmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwODkyMDU2M1JUS0NHU1JPSk1JRCZlbmNyeXB0ZWRBZElkPUEwMDA2MTQ5NjJSTjFEUzlWRFo2JndpZGdldE5hbWU9c3BfZGV0YWlsJmFjdGlvbj1jbGlja1JlZGlyZWN0JmRvTm90TG9nQ2xpY2s9dHJ1ZQ&th=1
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Are you clamping the gun onto the tripod or simply resting it?  If clamping, what device?
Link Posted: 4/18/2020 8:37:13 PM EDT
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I run the PiG 03-11 tripod with a Pig Saddle when hunting with my LMT MWS and couldn’t be more pleased with it.  Nice kit.
Link Posted: 4/18/2020 8:44:36 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 4/18/2020 9:04:08 PM EDT
[#7]
Check out the  tripod from Caldwell,precision target shooting rest.
It's only for bench or prone use and it's heavy.
It's like a miniature 240 tripod.price is pretty good too.about 65 bucks.
I just got one and I've not shot off it yet but it appears to be sturdy.
Link Posted: 4/18/2020 9:33:00 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By 9mmCarbine:
I run the PiG 03-11 tripod with a Pig Saddle when hunting with my LMT MWS and couldn’t be more pleased with it.  Nice kit.
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I'm interested in this setup as well. Do you feel like it's easy to keep the sights on target after the recoil? Or do you feel any bounce with it?
Link Posted: 4/18/2020 9:42:58 PM EDT
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came across this one as well....thoughts?

https://allpredatorcalls.com/rekon-ct-1-carbon-fiber-tripod-with-bh-1-ball-head-and-rta1-picatinny-to-arca-swiss-mount-r003/
Link Posted: 4/18/2020 10:01:42 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By smokey24_24:


I'm interested in this setup as well. Do you feel like it's easy to keep the sights on target after the recoil? Or do you feel any bounce with it?
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Most of my shots are single with no follow up necessary but I feel the system is fairly stable.  It does jump on you a bit but through some technique you can certainly control it.   I also run a SunwayFoto XB44 ball head.  Shooting off a tripod is a bit of an art and I utilize a sling to help stabilize the rifle when shooting from this rig.
Link Posted: 4/18/2020 10:02:36 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 4/18/2020 10:09:58 PM EDT
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Just started a build of one - or more a re-purpose & re-spray to cover the bare aluminium finish

I got a MANFROTTO 055 model (several variants of the 055 around) for cheap on Ebay
Added the MANFROTTO pistol grip style head - bought post-lockdown, on EbaySpain
Using a dedicated Pig Saddle which I bought mid-2019

….at this rate I will be lucky to have range time with it this side of New Year
Link Posted: 4/18/2020 10:49:38 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By smokey24_24:


I've seen this one in the past. I definitely like the idea of carbon fiber. What mount do you use?
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Originally Posted By MarkHatfield:
snowrider:  Are you clamping the rifle onto the tripod or simply resting it?  If clamping, what device do you use?
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I use the Swiss-arca head that came on the tripod, it clamps to a Swiss-arca rail on my rifle...My chassis came with the rail machined in, but on other rifles we have just installed one...

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Here is a m-loc to swiss Arca rail that can bolt right on an m-loc hand guard, It wouldn't be hard to attach to any stock...lots of places are making them now..or do as my buddy did and just bought a cheap 6" Swiss-Arca rail off amazon for a few bucks and screwed it on to his hand guard using m-lock screw kit...
https://www.odinworks.com/MLOKTOARCA_p/acc-ml-arca-rail.htm
Link Posted: 4/18/2020 11:19:13 PM EDT
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Take a look at the Wrecking Ball from Vault Outdoors. It is fairly new, so not many reviews yet, but it looks like it might be the ticket. I ordered the package the other day, but have not gotten a shipping notice yet. Uses the same tripod as the Pig Saddle 0311 with a newly designed ballhead.

https://vaultoutdoors.com/products/wrecking-ball-package



I am a photographer and have several tripods (Manfrotto 055 and a Gitzo carbon fiber, among others). These are not as sturdy as RRS tripods, but not nearly as expensive either. I have used them for shooting but they are not as stable as I would like. Mostly due to the ballheads. I feel like you need a very sturdy ballhead for good stability. Something like the RRS BH 55 or maybe the BH 40. Or a leveling base. Something like these.

https://www.reallyrightstuff.com/tripod-series-3-3-sections

https://www.reallyrightstuff.com/bh55-ball-head

https://www.reallyrightstuff.com/ta-2u-lb_2

I have no experience with the Pig Saddle, but it looks sturdy as well. It seems that it would benefit from a ballhead also.
Link Posted: 4/18/2020 11:59:58 PM EDT
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I did medium format photogaragy in a different life, I bought a Gitzo tele studdex which I still have, new they're too expensive but used they're affordable, people who buy them them take care of them.   I had a 20# 4x5 camera which it held with no issues at all.  Now I have a manfrotto 322 rc2 head on it.

Gitzo
Link Posted: 4/19/2020 12:29:42 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By montyw42:
Take a look at the Wrecking Ball from Vault Outdoors. It is fairly new, so not many reviews yet, but it looks like it might be the ticket. I ordered the package the other day, but have not gotten a shipping notice yet. Uses the same tripod as the Pig Saddle 0311 with a newly designed ballhead.

https://vaultoutdoors.com/products/wrecking-ball-package

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6cpyohnS1L0

I am a photographer and have several tripods (Manfrotto 055 and a Gitzo carbon fiber, among others). These are not as sturdy as RRS tripods, but not nearly as expensive either. I have used them for shooting but they are not as stable as I would like. Mostly due to the ballheads. I feel like you need a very sturdy ballhead for good stability. Something like the RRS BH 55 or maybe the BH 40. Or a leveling base. Something like these.

https://www.reallyrightstuff.com/tripod-series-3-3-sections

https://www.reallyrightstuff.com/bh55-ball-head

https://www.reallyrightstuff.com/ta-2u-lb_2

I have no experience with the Pig Saddle, but it looks sturdy as well. It seems that it would benefit from a ballhead also.
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That wrecking ball looks like it could be really good. Please post an update once you get yours and give a little review of it.
Link Posted: 4/19/2020 7:38:20 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By smokey24_24:


That wrecking ball looks like it could be really good. Please post an update once you get yours and give a little review of it.
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OK, will do.
Link Posted: 4/19/2020 3:42:27 PM EDT
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Man the guys over at SnipersHide are RRS or bust it seems. It seems apparent that RRS is the gold standard but no way I can justify that right now.
Link Posted: 4/19/2020 7:09:38 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By smokey24_24:
Man the guys over at SnipersHide are RRS or bust it seems. It seems apparent that RRS is the gold standard but no way I can justify that right now.
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Big thread over there on the Innorel RT-90C which appears to be a very close copy of Two Vets and the PVA Comp 40. Runs about $300 and solid as a rock, heavy as one too about 6.5 lbs.
Link Posted: 4/22/2020 10:34:39 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 7/20/2020 7:06:30 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By smokey24_24:
Man the guys over at SnipersHide are RRS or bust it seems. It seems apparent that RRS is the gold standard but no way I can justify that right now.
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I took a middle of the road option, the RRS Anvil 30 ball head on a pig-saddle (or slik) tripod.  The tripod is plenty steady and the Anvil ballhead is really sturdy and really smooth.
Link Posted: 7/20/2020 7:20:23 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By AKSnowRider:
I am not a competitive shooter, but I do use a tripod for shooting once in a while..with that said, I have had great results with this newer carbon fiber tripod..it has zero issues holding my 16 pd long range hunting rifle... and the price is stupid cheap for what you get...130 bucks....out of stock now, but they will be back in stock soon..the same company makes a slightly lighter rated version as well...




https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01I1C8VGI/ref=emc_b_5_t

This looks like the same tripod in orange or blue for 120 bucks..
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B013YDWYK8/ref=sspa_dk_detail_1?pd_rd_i=B013YDWYK8&pd_rd_w=Y0ky7&pf_rd_p=48d372c1-f7e1-4b8b-9d02-4bd86f5158c5&pd_rd_wg=TijOD&pf_rd_r=XATS8DYWZV9R059MK5AC&pd_rd_r=bb8c64f6-d9b9-43f3-9d57-ff7541b344b4&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUEzN1gyWkdLWDlMN0ZaJmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwODkyMDU2M1JUS0NHU1JPSk1JRCZlbmNyeXB0ZWRBZElkPUEwMDA2MTQ5NjJSTjFEUzlWRFo2JndpZGdldE5hbWU9c3BfZGV0YWlsJmFjdGlvbj1jbGlja1JlZGlyZWN0JmRvTm90TG9nQ2xpY2s9dHJ1ZQ&th=1
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I also use the Neewer tripod. Great option for a budget tripod.  I have swiss arca to mlok adapters on my rifles.
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Link Posted: 10/1/2020 7:53:19 PM EDT
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Just wanted to say I'm also pleased with the Neewer.

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Link Posted: 10/1/2020 8:01:57 PM EDT
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I just ordered a Night Stalker from Night Goggles. I mainly need it to hold my binoculars but I’ll probably shoot from it occasionally. I just can’t justify the cost of a RRS tripod right now.
Link Posted: 10/3/2020 7:29:52 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 10/5/2020 4:10:49 AM EDT
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I really like my RRS but looking at tripods at the national match this weekend there was a dozen different makes that all work just as good I'm sure.
Link Posted: 10/11/2020 3:32:30 PM EDT
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Pig 0311 here. It's decent. I do not like the clamps for the leg extensions and would prefer the twist style. With my heavy pack on the hook and leaning into the gun, the front leg will start to collapse. I wish I would have
spent some more coin for a beefier tripod but it works ok for now I guess.
Link Posted: 10/11/2020 3:55:54 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 10/18/2020 4:33:13 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By ACEB36TC:
https://www.reallyrightstuff.com/tripods/carbon-fiber

LOOK NO FURTHER.
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These all appear to cost more than EIGHT TIMES MORE than the pig. Are you saying that a functional tripod is going to cost that much?

Link Posted: 10/18/2020 4:39:29 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By smokey24_24:
came across this one as well....thoughts?

https://allpredatorcalls.com/rekon-ct-1-carbon-fiber-tripod-with-bh-1-ball-head-and-rta1-picatinny-to-arca-swiss-mount-r003/
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I don’t have a tripod yet but I have been researching them intensively for about six weeks. I have seen cheaper setups that people have reported to be functional but the capacity of the head (32 lbs) is worrying.

My research is leading me to believe that the head is really important and the more weight it can support -the better and more stable it is. The very expensive heads can support almost 150 lbs. I know this is much heavier than your rifle.

Just an uninformed opinion.
Link Posted: 10/18/2020 4:40:07 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Dabster:


These all appear to cost more than EIGHT TIMES MORE than the pig. Are you saying that a functional tripod is going to cost that much?

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Originally Posted By Dabster:
Originally Posted By ACEB36TC:
https://www.reallyrightstuff.com/tripods/carbon-fiber

LOOK NO FURTHER.


These all appear to cost more than EIGHT TIMES MORE than the pig. Are you saying that a functional tripod is going to cost that much?


Make sure you get some tactical beanbag chairs to go with it.
Link Posted: 10/18/2020 4:59:33 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By ziarifleman:

Make sure you get some tactical beanbag chairs to go with it.
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Tony Cowden posted a picture of him showing how to get ready for hunting season by shooting positional. You know with 3 fucking bags. Like your going to pack 30 pounds of bean bags into the hills and a 20 pound tripod.
Link Posted: 10/18/2020 6:14:55 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 10/18/2020 7:04:03 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Skg_Mre_Lght:
Lol.

The amount of shit most people pack around at matches is hilarious. I know a guy I shoot with quite a bit that has a cart he wheels around from stage to stage.
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I mean if I packed as much shit as some of the clowns at the matches I would to. I really cant wait to see a shooters jersey with a red wagon sponsorship on it. I have one bag with lite fill, ammo, snacks, water all in a nice tiny little pack.
Link Posted: 10/19/2020 10:52:30 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 10/22/2020 8:45:03 PM EDT
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I ran my tripod setup for the first time today-  It's got a learning curve.   I was foolishly expecting bipod on the bench stability...   I shot a 1.46 MOA group at 50yds.  

I know running a sling will help, so ill try that next time.

Oh and details:


Pic of rig
Tripod: PIG0311G
Ballhead- Neewer amazon special

Rifle:
Howa1500 308, in KRG Bravo. SS 10/42 MOA Quad.

Ammo:
42grs IMR 4895
168gr Nosler BT
2.225" Seating depth
Winchester brass.
Link Posted: 10/22/2020 8:49:44 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 10/22/2020 9:31:31 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Skg_Mre_Lght:

Yep, dry fire off of it alot, as it takes getting used to.

I like stiff arming a leg for stability.
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Like this?

This worked well for me.   I’m going to use a sling from my front swivel to my belt in addition to this.

https://ibb.co/NxgcqDk
Link Posted: 10/22/2020 9:38:30 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 10/22/2020 9:44:41 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By jaqufrost:
I also use the Neewer tripod. Great option for a budget tripod.  I have swiss arca to mlok adapters on my rifles.
https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/57761/Resized_20190323_173456_1__1__jpeg-1512349.JPG
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Bipod shooter here. I'm curious, what does a tripod attached near the magwell do better than a bipod? Ability to swing at targets beyond the bipod? Are you using a normal prone shooting position?
Link Posted: 10/22/2020 10:04:24 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 10/25/2020 10:19:38 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 10/25/2020 10:54:29 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Rob01:


Just more stability when higher off the ground. Really not seeing a lot used at matches as you have to deploy them on the clock and you really waste a lot of time doing that to shoot off it. Sometimes they work but few. See more people using the tripod legs as rear support actually.
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+100 this. Its very rare to see someone use a tripod for anything besides rear support. I can remember the last time I saw someone shoot off of one in a competition.
Link Posted: 10/25/2020 11:43:05 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 10/25/2020 12:11:07 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Skg_Mre_Lght:
We used th crap out of them to shoot off of at a High Angle match back in May. Other than that, maybe a stage or two around here once in a blue moon.
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A high angle match off of tripods would be super fun. I like those cyke bipods since you can get so high on them and they're fast for a match but definitely not as stable.
Link Posted: 10/25/2020 12:20:03 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 11/13/2020 4:05:00 AM EDT
[Last Edit: esa17] [#47]
I recently took a positional shooting course and we shot off tripods a lot.  For most of the class I was borrowing a RRS tripod with an Anvil-30 on it and man was it nice.

No way in hell I'm dropping $1500 on a tripod setup.

Another shooter let me try out his RT-90C with a DLOW-55 on it.  $500 I can swing so I'm going to buy that setup this week.  For my skillset and experience that will do just fine.

Was the RRS more solid, yes.  Was it worth $1000 more to me?  Nope.

Edit:

Innorel RT-90C & 2 Vets 55mm ball head, solid as a rock.

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Link Posted: 5/10/2021 9:51:50 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Saddler:
Just started a build of one - or more a re-purpose & re-spray to cover the bare aluminium finish

I got a MANFROTTO 055 model (several variants of the 055 around) for cheap on Ebay
Added the MANFROTTO pistol grip style head - bought post-lockdown, on EbaySpain
Using a dedicated Pig Saddle which I bought mid-2019

….at this rate I will be lucky to have range time with it this side of New Year
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I run this setup and works well for an inexpensive setup for pretty much just holding a rifle up while standing.  Don't expect the head to really lock up with a heavy setup.  If it is off balance, the rifle will sag/dip.

I have a Manfrotto QD plate for the PIGsaddle, but they seem to be made of cast aluminum and very prone to breakage if dropped.  I use the Manfrotto QD plates so I can also mount up the Vortex Spotting scope quickly.
Link Posted: 5/16/2021 10:12:30 AM EDT
[#49]
This entire thread has made me realize that photographers are absolute retards.
Ball heads should have never once been on the option block to stabilize a long heavy object on a tripod.

We figured this shit out a long time ago. They’re called fluid heads. They’re for video cameras, and they better stabilize weight front to back, and cut out side to side cant.
Link Posted: 5/16/2021 10:24:47 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Alderleet:
This entire thread has made me realize that photographers are absolute retards.
Ball heads should have never once been on the option block to stabilize a long heavy object on a tripod.

We figured this shit out a long time ago. They’re called fluid heads. They’re for video cameras, and they better stabilize weight front to back, and cut out side to side cant.
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Ya need that side to side cant.
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