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Posted: 5/20/2009 1:51:00 PM EDT
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Anyone of those calibers will get the job done quite well. HTR has quite a few threads on the effectiveness of the 6.8 cartridge shooting barnes bullets with very impressive results. I've been using a ar and restricting myself to ear shots, but i'm in the process of building a lightweight 308 package. I would of went with a 6.8, but I have a huge supply of 308 bullets laying around.
Another direction would be a .50 wolf or .458 socom . Definetly a hog stopper. |
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Posted: 5/20/2009 2:25:37 PM EDT
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I was looking at 6.8SPC There you go. |
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Posted: 5/20/2009 9:55:15 PM EDT
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I think your ideal package would be :
6.8 SPC in 16" lightweight profile barrel. These are currently made by ARPerformance, located in Colorado. You could also add Troy TRX extreme handguard as the 9" rail is only 6.5 ozs, and allows for a couple of rails to be attached. A Magpul CTR stock is light and strong. You can use the Barnes 85 grain TSX's which come out of the 16" barrel at 3050 FPS in the SSA factory load, and can easily be loaded to about 3150 in handloads. I have killed many, many pigs with these and the 110 grain TTSX's. While it is an outstanding pig killer, there is no .308 that would give you the same compact, lightweight package. Here is a picture of something very similar with a VLTOR CASV - M. This is a Cardinal Armory 11 twist 4 groove barrel with SPC II chamber. It is the rifle on the top 
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Posted: 5/21/2009 7:07:15 AM EDT
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Short lightweight 100 yard pig rifle?
Winchester Trapper .44 magnum lever action rifle. A trapper .30-30 would work well too. That's what I would grab out of the gun safe if I were chasing pigs today. The other choices you listed are just fine for the job too. If I were building another AR for pig hunting (which I will soon) I think I would pick the 6.8 SPC. |
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Posted: 5/21/2009 8:11:10 AM EDT
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I have to agree with HTR, if your building another AR and you want light and short I would go with the 6.8 if I was building a AR10 (or whatever you want to call the 308 AR) I would make it with at least a 20 inch barrel...
I have to agree with HTR as to the effectiveness of the 85 TSX this guy was about 160 meters off one shot with the 85 put him down and never moved... 
Those 85's will also go through both shoulder of a hog no problem as we saw later that night when another guy hunting with us put the hurt on a 200 lber... |
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Posted: 5/21/2009 8:24:20 AM EDT
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Ruger Frontier or Savage Scout (especially with the detachable mag on the Savage) in .308.
Maybe a Remington Model Seven in 7mm-08. |
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Posted: 5/21/2009 2:15:16 PM EDT
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Ruger Frontier or Savage Scout (especially with the detachable mag on the Savage) in .308. Maybe a Remington Model Seven in 7mm-08. I really like all three of these rifles above for compactness and the rounds mentioned. Except, with hogs, you really do need a semi-automatic. If you are going to do it right, the bolt gun just won't cut it if you get into a group like this: 
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Posted: 5/21/2009 2:59:38 PM EDT
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I think your ideal package would be : 6.8 SPC in 16" lightweight profile barrel. These are currently made by ARPerformance, located in Colorado. You could also add Troy TRX extreme handguard as the 9" rail is only 6.5 ozs, and allows for a couple of rails to be attached. A Magpul CTR stock is light and strong. You can use the Barnes 85 grain TSX's which come out of the 16" barrel at 3050 FPS in the SSA factory load, and can easily be loaded to about 3150 in handloads. I have killed many, many pigs with these and the 110 grain TTSX's. While it is an outstanding pig killer, there is no .308 that would give you the same compact, lightweight package. Here is a picture of something very similar with a VLTOR CASV - M. This is a Cardinal Armory 11 twist 4 groove barrel with SPC II chamber. It is the rifle on the top http://s153.photobucket.com/albums/s233/dkred5854/January08028.jpg You forgot the suppressor and NV. 
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Posted: 5/21/2009 3:33:01 PM EDT
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6.8 SPC
Make sure you use a bonded core bullet, or a Barnes. You should be GTG. |
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Posted: 5/22/2009 12:15:26 PM EDT
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Ruger Frontier or Savage Scout (especially with the detachable mag on the Savage) in .308. Maybe a Remington Model Seven in 7mm-08. I really like all three of these rifles above for compactness and the rounds mentioned. Except, with hogs, you really do need a semi-automatic. If you are going to do it right, the bolt gun just won't cut it if you get into a group like this: http://s153.photobucket.com/albums/s233/dkred5854/Pigs-1.jpg Is that your own ranch? I am jealous |
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Posted: 5/22/2009 4:04:00 PM EDT
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lever action in 454 or 480 Ruger would work well at those distances. Puma makes them both
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Posted: 5/22/2009 9:08:02 PM EDT
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Is that your own ranch? I am jealous yes it is HTR's place.... |
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Posted: 6/2/2009 9:58:47 AM EDT
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You've pretty much convinced me to go 6.8SPC over 300 Whisper or 30 Remington AR.
Where's a good place to get a ~16" upper with the right twist and chamber configuration? SPC II? 1:11" twist? Sounds like I'll be using the 85gr TSX exclusively. |
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Posted: 6/2/2009 5:24:14 PM EDT
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http://www.ar15performance.com/home
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Posted: 6/2/2009 6:00:17 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/2/2009 9:59:19 PM EDT
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Curiously AR15 Performance is right down the road from me. They don't seem to be very well-known locally.
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Posted: 6/4/2009 3:46:25 PM EDT
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.458 SOCOM.
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Posted: 6/4/2009 3:53:59 PM EDT
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This might be a stupid question, but why not 7.62x39? Seems like it would be cheaper to plink with and good ammo is available for it most places..200 yards is not out of line for it I don't think.
Just curious. I have heard rumors that there are some feral pigs up here but have not seens any. Seen turkeys though. No bag, size, season, or possession limits on feral animals... |
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Posted: 6/4/2009 3:56:09 PM EDT
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.50 Beowulf
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Posted: 6/4/2009 3:56:27 PM EDT
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Quoted: This might be a stupid question, but why not 7.62x39? Seems like it would be cheaper to plink with and good ammo is available for it most places..200 yards is not out of line for it I don't think. Just curious. I have heard rumors that there are some feral pigs up here but have not seens any. Seen turkeys though. No bag, size, season, or possession limits on feral animals... 45-70 Marlin |
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Posted: 6/4/2009 7:57:03 PM EDT
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This might be a stupid question, but why not 7.62x39? Seems like it would be cheaper to plink with and good ammo is available for it most places..200 yards is not out of line for it I don't think. Just curious. I have heard rumors that there are some feral pigs up here but have not seens any. Seen turkeys though. No bag, size, season, or possession limits on feral animals... 7.62x39 is an excellent round to hunt with, but you really need to get a reliable magazine. You don't want the bolt to get stuck on the second round on a wild hog follow up shot. I made the mistake buying Cproducts magazine. I had to pay $8 bucks to send them back. One guy had to send his back 3 times. $8x3=$24. $24 could buy another mag! |
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Posted: 6/5/2009 4:21:58 AM EDT
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Quoted: This might be a stupid question, but why not 7.62x39? Seems like it would be cheaper to plink with and good ammo is available for it most places..200 yards is not out of line for it I don't think. Just curious. I have heard rumors that there are some feral pigs up here but have not seens any. Seen turkeys though. No bag, size, season, or possession limits on feral animals... A 7.62x39 bullet only has 800-1100 ft.lb. at 200 yards. To me, that sounds pretty marginal for a hog, especially when the bullet drop is almost a foot at that range. Feral or not, nuisance or not, I like a clean one-shot kill, and that round doesn't do it for me at that range. 100 yards and in? No problem. |
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Posted: 6/5/2009 5:56:01 AM EDT
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This might be a stupid question, but why not 7.62x39? Seems like it would be cheaper to plink with and good ammo is available for it most places..200 yards is not out of line for it I don't think. Just curious. I have heard rumors that there are some feral pigs up here but have not seens any. Seen turkeys though. No bag, size, season, or possession limits on feral animals... A 7.62x39 bullet only has 800-1100 ft.lb. at 200 yards. To me, that sounds pretty marginal for a hog, especially when the bullet drop is almost a foot at that range. Feral or not, nuisance or not, I like a clean one-shot kill, and that round doesn't do it for me at that range. 100 yards and in? No problem. I am not a ballistic expert or anything. But I zeroed my M1S @ 100 yds and can hit a 6" gong at around 215 yds without holding over......... consistantly |
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Posted: 6/5/2009 7:06:17 AM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: This might be a stupid question, but why not 7.62x39? Seems like it would be cheaper to plink with and good ammo is available for it most places..200 yards is not out of line for it I don't think. Just curious. I have heard rumors that there are some feral pigs up here but have not seens any. Seen turkeys though. No bag, size, season, or possession limits on feral animals... A 7.62x39 bullet only has 800-1100 ft.lb. at 200 yards. To me, that sounds pretty marginal for a hog, especially when the bullet drop is almost a foot at that range. Feral or not, nuisance or not, I like a clean one-shot kill, and that round doesn't do it for me at that range. 100 yards and in? No problem. I am not a ballistic expert or anything. But I zeroed my M1S @ 100 yds and can hit a 6" gong at around 215 yds without holding over......... consistantly I looked it up and you're right. I must have been thinking of its trajectory at 300 yards. Six inches low at 200 yards isn't bad. And a well placed shot with 1000 ft. lbs. will probably do a decent job on a hog. I stand corrected. |
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Posted: 6/5/2009 8:58:36 AM EDT
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Short lightweight 100 yard pig rifle? Winchester Trapper .44 magnum lever action rifle. A trapper .30-30 would work well too. That's what I would grab out of the gun safe if I were chasing pigs today. The other choices you listed are just fine for the job too. If I were building another AR for pig hunting (which I will soon) I think I would pick the 6.8 SPC. My John Wayne Special Winchester Model 94 .44 Mag always does a number on large swine if I don't have my 5.56mm handy! 
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Posted: 6/5/2009 9:10:03 AM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Short lightweight 100 yard pig rifle? Winchester Trapper .44 magnum lever action rifle. A trapper .30-30 would work well too. That's what I would grab out of the gun safe if I were chasing pigs today. The other choices you listed are just fine for the job too. If I were building another AR for pig hunting (which I will soon) I think I would pick the 6.8 SPC. My John Wayne Special Winchester Model 94 .44 Mag always does a number on large swine if I don't have my 5.56mm handy! http://www.phossil.com/thom/Hogzilla.jpg That's one big sow! |
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Posted: 6/5/2009 10:04:57 AM EDT
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Short lightweight 100 yard pig rifle? Winchester Trapper .44 magnum lever action rifle. A trapper .30-30 would work well too. That's what I would grab out of the gun safe if I were chasing pigs today. The other choices you listed are just fine for the job too. If I were building another AR for pig hunting (which I will soon) I think I would pick the 6.8 SPC. My John Wayne Special Winchester Model 94 .44 Mag always does a number on large swine if I don't have my 5.56mm handy!
http://www.phossil.com/thom/Hogzilla.jpg That's one big sow! Is that a domestic pig? |
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Posted: 6/5/2009 10:27:21 AM EDT
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Short lightweight 100 yard pig rifle? Winchester Trapper .44 magnum lever action rifle. A trapper .30-30 would work well too. That's what I would grab out of the gun safe if I were chasing pigs today. The other choices you listed are just fine for the job too. If I were building another AR for pig hunting (which I will soon) I think I would pick the 6.8 SPC. My John Wayne Special Winchester Model 94 .44 Mag always does a number on large swine if I don't have my 5.56mm handy!
http://www.phossil.com/thom/Hogzilla.jpg That's one big sow! Is that a domestic pig? It is a dead feral Yorkshire sow. One Hornady .44 MAG 300 grain JHP @ 50 yards. 
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Posted: 6/5/2009 11:02:39 AM EDT
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While all the lever guns mentioned above are more than capable of getting the job done. None have detachable mags, or are capable of holding more than 10 rounds like the OP is looking for. The 6.8 is going to be hard to beat for the application at hand. (lightweight package, adequate stopping power, mag capacity)
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Posted: 6/5/2009 12:43:58 PM EDT
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While all the lever guns mentioned above are more than capable of getting the job done. None have detachable mags, or are capable of holding more than 10 rounds like the OP is looking for. The 6.8 is going to be hard to beat for the application at hand. (lightweight package, adequate stopping power, mag capacity) Thats true. 6.8 is a pretty damn good round. I am trying to build a 6.5MPC just because you don't need to buy special mags or parts for it. Its not as good as a 6.8SPC from what I understand, but can used formed 223 brass and 6.5 bullets. |
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Posted: 6/8/2009 3:20:40 PM EDT
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While all the lever guns mentioned above are more than capable of getting the job done. None have detachable mags, or are capable of holding more than 10 rounds like the OP is looking for. The 6.8 is going to be hard to beat for the application at hand. (lightweight package, adequate stopping power, mag capacity) Ding, ding, ding. We have a winner! |
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Posted: 6/8/2009 4:45:32 PM EDT
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6.8 or .458 socom. I have the .458 and am building the 6.8. The distance you really think you are going to hit them at is the key indicator. That being said the .458 is an absolute sledgehammer and accuracy is good within 150 m
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Posted: 6/10/2009 10:26:48 AM EDT
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I've found I can hit them just about anywhere and drop them with my .458 SOCOM and the Corbon 300gr JHP. I've dropped several that I hit running with poorly placed shots....i.e center of mass or in the ass running away from me and the dropped w/o taking another step. 75-150 lb range.
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Posted: 6/17/2009 12:30:56 PM EDT
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Hogs around here are not that large, and with the heavy cover, the shot distance is close. I have found that my Bushmaster .223 with my hand loads works well.
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