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Pardon the ignorance, but is it possible to use one of the single band whips on a manpack/portable rig? Something like the guy down in this thread has?
Is the issue that you need some sort of counterpoise attached to the antenna and ground screw of the rig/tuner? Just curious about getting into portable HF and I think fabbing a mount and picking up a couple of those cheap MFJ sticks would be more convenient than tossing wires in trees, also just different than an end fed.
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Ok, I didn't mean to belabor the point, but I did... Enjoy...
Couple of things... By the look of it you are interested in using a conventional HAM radio for this.
Point 1
First, if you are considering pedestrian mobile ops consider the fact your body capacitance will change the tuning of your whip, also what sort of ground you are on will also effect this, so if you are walkin' an' talkin' the electronic environment surrounding your antenna will be changing constantly and sometimes dramatically. Military HF backpack radios for years have used an ATU that basically checks and tunes the antenna every time you hit the PTT, sometimes its a small change, sometimes its big. I can speak from alot of experience on that one. Furthermore most actual milpack radios have finals that are absurdly underrated (that 20W milpacks finals could easily put out 50-60W if you tweaked them) so they can tolerate huge SWR swings without failing. HAM radios, for the most part do neither, so you better be checking to make sure whatever rig you have is easy to tune, and be aware that you might toast your rig doing this.
Point 2
Onto the purpose of the counterpoise wire, or drag wire. Vertical antennas, especially usable length verticals are famously inefficent without some sort of counterpoise system. Go read any antenna book about verticals in permanent setups and you will see oodles recommendations about how many million ground wires you are supposed to install to make the antenna system not suck. The reason for this is that the counterpoise can be thought of as the other half of a dipole antenna, it will help greatly in getting your signal out, and make it easier to tune your antenna. For portable operations you will notice a huge difference when operating with a CP wire, some folks estimate it anywhere from 6-12db difference (and thats probably to get to 1dbi), so while you don't always need a CP wire, your effective radiated power (ERP) will take a huge hit.
And speaking of ERP, you will probably loose some radiated power when compared to the end-fed.
Recommendation... Since most short verticals are fairly terrible in terms of performance I'd recommend a buddistick type setup or something like it. (i.e. antenna+loading coil) and to read the
NE1RD book to understand why....
Here is my version of what you are talking about: It works fine, but I don't use it walkin-n-talkin.