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Posted: 7/11/2008 5:47:52 PM EDT
We may have a chance to get a BOL in the middle of nowhere. Well... There are lots of coyotes What breed of dog would see a coyote and say "goody food"?
Thinking of Irish Wolfhound. It''s a large place so room to roam is not a problem. Thanks |
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More than one. I just read a story how a female coyote lured a german shepard out and the pack killed and ate it.
Whatever you get make sure it is good sized (doesn't have to be huge) and get more than one. The truth is if you have a lot of coyotes you might want to keep your dogs in at night while you go hunting. |
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Think small not big. I would rather have a small dog I could feed than a big dog that eats everything. The best use of dogs is as a warning or intrusion detector. A medium to small dog like an agile shepard or border collie would be high on my list. If your dog gets into it with a coyote, you will still be patcing up the dog. You really want to do that in a SHTF situation. Not me. I want a dog that says hey there is something there than I go shoot the something.
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We used to have these issues.
The pack of coyotes would lure our male dogs ( shepherds ) out with a female in heat. Then they would take his nuts. No joke. I think a couple of pitbulls would give a pack of coyotes a really good run for their money. |
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A pair of Anatolian Shepherds. Anything comes unto my property gets killed, two opossums that amde the mistake fo coming into the backyard left in a bag. |
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beagles are not the toughest id imagine but they are loyal and work well in packs....a pack of beagles baying after a coyote-im not sure the coyotes would stick around you know.....
but they wouldn't think goody food seeing a coyote... Im just suggestng beagles because i just got one and love him....So much natural hunting talent its ridiculous....How does he instinctively know he is meant to track rabbits? |
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We have two female red heelers from the same litter. They've been going after coyotes since they were 5 months old, they are over 2 now. They leave my girls alone, l let them have the run of the place when I'm working in the garage. We're on 18 acres in the sticks.
Guy up the hill from me had a pitbull father, blue heeler mother and 3 puppies that ran loose all the time. Coyotes got the pitbull, but never got the mother or puppies. They're all growed up now. Down the road from him the family there has 2 great danes that the coyotes keep trying to lure out. Heelers are fiercely loyal and protective of their pack, have superb reflexes, can deal with the heat and actually a stronger bite than a pitbull. Edited to add a picture of the girls. They are even camoflaged, at least in Sedona. http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z110/Howlin_Mad_pics/puppies/Sedona.jpg |
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Being a dog person. I'd just shoot all the coyotes and live with a big Lab. Just me though. |
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WOW, That is one tiny guy... |
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keep in mind the size and strength of the dog isnt gonna matter when a pack of coyotes are on it. One on one it would be a huge factor but a large wolfhound against 5 coyotes.....
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Black Dog tastes Best...
CHEF but, Boxers, GSD, Rots are my choices.. |
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My aunt's neighbor neighbor has a small herd of goats. He has two great Pyrenees (spelling?) that live with the herd. They find coyotes with their backs snapped on a regular basis. Most people think they are just big fluff balls but when it comes to protecting property they are all business.
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I was thinking cattle dogs also. Small, smart, mean, protective. Great Pyrenees can do the job, but a huge dog, twice the food, half the life expectancy. Poison works pretty good too. |
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Catahoula.
I've never encountered a breed that was equally as capable a guard, hunter, cattle dog, and companion. Rescue one. |
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+1 very impressed with them when I was stationed in turkey. Bred to protect sheep from wolves.......a pair should be able to handle a small pack of coyotes |
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My girl and boy are awesome, the male is actually part golden retriver we think as he was a pound rescue on a tip from an Anatolian rescue group. We purchased our girl from one of the best Anatolian breeders in the US. |
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pit bulls, unlike the hype you hear are very intelligent dogs. Very loyal to their family. good hunters. All around one of the best dog breeds I've had. My pit is by far the smartest easily trainable dogs I have ever encountered. He has never been in a fence or tied up and he is still here after 4 years. I take him in the woods quite often. One thing I love about him is he never barks in the woods UNLESS. He see's or hears a person. Deer, rabbits , birds, he will chase, but he never barks at them. So I know , If he barks. There is someone out there. |
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I had a big rottweiler growing up in the desert. He would come home all the time tore up from the coyotes. It you can find five pictures of him he woudl be wearing the "cone" in three or four of them. I recently took both my dogs (golden retrievers) to off leash dog school. It was a lot easier training them than the mastiffs or bulldogs that were there. Take a look at a list of inate dog intelligence before you make your pick. German shepards and Rotts are both quick.
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Catahoula Leopard Dog. www.bulldoginformation.com/catahoula-leopard.html
Check these guys out. They were bread for hunting wild boars in Louisiana, so they're big, tough and good in the heat. They are a mix of Red Wolf, Mastiff and American Indian Dog, and they end up with nice coloring and sound like just the trick for what you're looking for. I got mine a couple months ago and at 3 months he was 15 pounds, he'll be 5 months in 2 days and weighs in around 42 now, he's going to be huge. |
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That reminds me of an article I read many years ago about employing pits as pack mules due to their small size and efficiency and uncanny ability and drive to move alot of weight.Wouldn't be too bad to have around for getting to or from BOL on foot.A pair of females from the same litter would be good as someone else suggested.
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Blue Heeler...I have owned many types of working dogs(no house shiteaters ever) and this blue heeler that I have now is by far the best family dog ever. She stays on the farm. My neighbors do not know I even have dog until they come to my house. She will fight anything to protect the family. I have seen her whip coons that were almost as big as she is. Pound for pound I won't want to fight her.
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This thread has me wondering what a Timber Wolf / Blue Heeler cross would be like. Wolves hate Coyotes & Coyotes are afraid of Wolves.
ETA: I used to have a dog that was a Black Lab / Border Collie / Norweigan Elk Hound cross. She was smart & was good at killing animals that dogs normally leave alone. I used to watch her when I fed her in the morning. She'd eat about half of her food & then would go underneath the portch (her dish was in front of the portch). Sure enough about 5 minutes later, Blue Jays would show up to eat some dog food only to have their bodies broken by my dog. She was hell on rabbits & coons too. And whenever any of the family came home, that dog would clear the yard as we were coming down the driveway. And the Coyotes never messed with her. I miss that dog. |
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+1,000 The BEST! I have one and am getting another. The most loyal and protective dog I have ever seen. |
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leonbergers- think of it as a mix of st bernard, great pyr and newfoundland. at 200lbs of muscular working dog nothing challenges it. and they are sweet as pie too.
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At least two dogs, but a fricking burro will kick a coyote's ass
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Who is the breeder...? have thought about getting one some day but dont have a clue about finding a good breeder |
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Hoizon Anatolians Sheryle is great and was very very blunt about how different they are than regular dogs.
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+1 Also +1 on the Great Pyrennese Seen them both kick the shit out of coyotes. |
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Don't forget the Guinea. They will alert you quick than a dog. Granted, they will lose in a fight though.
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a big +1. I have a black and tan. Fast and can go all day. They do require a lot of activity, but a great dog. |
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AKC dogs are bread to meet physical standard which in turns leads dog that are prone to disease and temperament issues. I prefer natural selection. I recommend mixed bread dogs. get a couple of mutts in the size of dog that you prefer. And have both a male and female then you can have a puppy farm, pets or meat, your choice.
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Ive seen them in their working enviroment when I was stationed in sinop turkey and they are impressive........do they fit in well in a situation without live stock ? anything I need to be aware of having one as a companion dog ? |
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English Mastiff hands down!! They have a history for being fighting and war dogs they where also used to hunt deer that is why the king of England made all Mastiff have there center toe cut off so they could not be used to hunt the kings deer.
They are also your best friend and loyal as hell to you and your family.They might be lazy and lay around a lot when it comes to protecting family and home seeing them move is like watch a video where the lion is going after its pray. |
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one of the smaller colleges around here does a lot of research on goats. the school is in a smaller town and they have thousands of goats. they have anatolians and great pyranees to protect the goats from the coyotes. we went to a seminar there and they said the dogs usually will wander around alone or w/ one other dog. they also said that quite often they find four or five new coyotes dead and left in the same area.
we have a red heeler and a blue heeler pup, the woman we got the blue heeler from said her heelers quite often kill coyotes. |
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Yea cuz criminals are scared of little dogs |
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We had an austrailian sheppard/doberman mix. Smartest animal I ever saw... |
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