Quoted: cop swung at me with one of them i just grabbed it an threw it in the bed of my truck stung a little.
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I carried an ASP 26". The first time I used it,
about 8 yrs ago, I got in a
fight with a 6'1" 290# steer wrestler. I used pepper spray, hands, ASP (3 'wicked hard' times to his left knee cap) then back to hands. I finally had to do a belly to back suplex on him to get him down. While on the ground I went for an armlock with the ASP, he popped it loose from my hand and threw it to the ditch. (Nothing Like Training) Where you touch them with it and they fall over in pain. This guy didn't act like he felt a thing.
Fight lasted close to 10 minutes before backup got there and we got him cuffed.
One of the guys that backed me was a deputy and has been around for over 25 years or so as a PD officer then deputy. I told him about hitting that sucker with the ASP. Here was his seasoned advice about the expandable batons:
"Man expandable batons are good for mean dogs, and small children that's it."He carries the wooden straight baton with the rib seperater on the end.
Looking back, I have never seen an expandable baton work too well in an all out fight, yes it hurts them, but it won't stop them.
I now carry a Monadnock with the power tip end, I like it because there is more weight on the business end. I like wooden batons are better, just not as convient to carry, there is one in the car. I haven't used it to hit someone, just used it as a show of force, and pain compliance.
sorry so long