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Posted: 9/19/2002 3:35:35 PM EDT

Is there any way to find out the latest laws on the block for CA? I had heard that there is a law up on the board that would add a potential .05 tax on each round of ammunition sold in CA. The other is a total ban of all rifles that have detachable magazines. What a "Gun Loving" State. Thanks to Perata, Boxer and company.

Posted: 9/19/2002 5:01:20 PM EDT

[#1]

First, go join the California Rifle & Pistol Association [url]www.crpa.org[/url], which only costs $18 a year, and you'll get full summaries of all the laws, plus you'll help fund the fight against them.

The $.05 per round tax was withdrawn. I don't remember seeing anything about a law banning all semiautos.

There ARE, however, a bunch of new laws that already passed that will be coming into effect on 1/1/2003. The biggest is the change in the purchase of handguns. A hunters license or BFSC card isn't good enough; you'll have to be retested, including a hands-on safety test given by a licensed administrator, and will have to be finger(thumb?)printed. There's some other stuff too.

-Troy

Posted: 9/19/2002 5:44:42 PM EDT

[#2]

Did the "No Ammo Sale" in Los Angeles pass?

Posted: 9/19/2002 7:48:06 PM EDT

[#3]

Not yet.

-Troy

Posted: 9/19/2002 8:27:22 PM EDT

[#4]

Thanks, It is kind of depressing. I do my part by writing to my senators and governor and always get back a rationalization letter that blows smoke.

Posted: 9/19/2002 9:53:05 PM EDT

[#5]

a kalif gun owner and NOT a member of CRPA????
GET ON IT!!!

the 50cal ban is dead, the bullet tax is dead.

the new handgun safety card (HSC) from what ive seen and read, its nothing more than BFSC with a new name.
i have NOT seen anything about prints, photos, DNA, anal exams, piss tests etc.
if someone has let me know.

the card is good for 5 years, its a new written test, and a safety test, no need for a special class. you should be able to take the test and get the card in Oct.

Posted: 9/19/2002 10:11:49 PM EDT

[#6]

Join the NRA if you aren't a member!!!

They will probably let you know and also have the[url]http://www.nraila.org[/url] where they emai you with the latest issues.

You could take one for the team an remove all the leftist California legislators, without a gun of course[}:D]

Posted: 9/23/2002 11:57:11 AM EDT

[#7]

The .50 caliber ban (AB2222) is not dead. Far from it. Remember that SB23 actually died on veto from Pete Wilson before it pulled a pheniox and became law.

Posted: 9/26/2002 9:45:23 AM EDT

[#8]

I have a purchaser for an AR who lives in Cali... what are the laws on this? I was pretty sure they're AW banned... but I didn't know if there was a registration process or something through his FFL to make the sale possible?

THANKS,

Doug

Posted: 9/26/2002 10:25:23 AM EDT

[#9]

Agwheeler,

Your purchaser cannot take possesion of an AR. All AR's have been banned. This also means importation of AW's from other states.

I have seen at gun shows "legal AR-15's" with a fixed magazine which does comply with SB-23 but I'm not so sure about the RR '89 ban.

Posted: 9/26/2002 11:15:02 AM EDT

[#10]

The ONLY AR-type rifles/lowers that can be transferred in the PRK (aside from LEO rifles) are the fixed-10-round FAB-10 lower, and the DPMS single-shot (no mag well) lower.

-Troy

Posted: 9/26/2002 12:07:05 PM EDT

[#11]

I don't think that's entirely true. California residents may not import the AW's into California, but they may still OWN AW's, just not within state lines.

Think of how many of us transported AW's out of CA before the registration period ended. Those AW's are still ours but they live elsewhere, where they are not labeled as illegal to own.

So, to cut a long story short, a CA resident may not buy ar AR and have it shipped into CA unless s/he is a LEO with the correct documentation, but you can also purchase it out of state and LEAVE IT out of state. It may not be brought into California.

Last I checked, the CA DOJ said nothing about their "subjects" being disallowed from owning AW's that live in say, North Dakota or Texas

Posted: 9/26/2002 1:06:32 PM EDT

[#12]

Unless you have multiple residency, a CA resident cannot legally purchase a firearm outside of California. This is because CA state law requires the transaction to go through a California-licensed dealer (even for private sales). FFL's are required to abide by the gun laws in their state, and in the purchaser's state of residence.

So, the only Cali residents who can legally purchase firearms outside CA (or without having it first sent to a Cali FFL to do the DROS) are military stationed outside CA, or persons with multiple residency - during a period when they actually reside outside CA.

Posted: 9/27/2002 6:07:21 PM EDT

[#13]

Circuits is correct, and very very few people PRK residents can qualify to buy guns legally in another state. Even owning a house in another state isn't good enough; you actually have to live in it part of the year (how long depends on the state in question) to qualify. So, 99% of PRK residents cannot legally buy guns out of the state.

-Troy

Posted: 9/29/2002 9:35:27 AM EDT

[#14]

HEY a benefit of being an under paid military member! Yahoo!

Posted: 10/5/2002 7:11:56 AM EDT

[#15]

NOT all AR/AK receivers are banned. Caliban SC threw out the "series" statements, so only specifically listed recievers are banned.

Case in point, the FAB-10 is legal, and the new fashonable "pump" AK [:D]

Technically speaking, all receivers not specifically listed, are legal. Problem is DOJ is preventing the importation of non-listed recievers, and FFLs are scared shitless to complete a non-listed transfer.

The "hunting" style AKs are legal, by default, since the AK "pump" is legal.

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