Ft. Hood shooting not TERRORISM??????????

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Posted: 11/5/2009 3:53:04 PM EDT

Ok, if the shooter was a white guy named Bob Smith, it would still be "terrorism." What am I missing here????

Posted: 11/5/2009 4:01:39 PM EDT

[#1]

Didn't you hear?

The Kenyan waved his magic dick in the air and made all the terrorists go away.

The .gov calls them "Freedom Fighters" now.

Posted: 11/5/2009 4:02:23 PM EDT

[#2]

In fairness, no one called the Virginia Tech shooting "terrorism" either. I'm not sure who makes these distinctions.

Posted: 11/5/2009 4:03:32 PM EDT

[#3]

Quoted:
In fairness, no one called the Virginia Tech shooting "terrorism" either. I'm not sure who makes these distinctions.

That Hassan fuck went to school at VT, strangely enough.

Posted: 11/5/2009 4:04:07 PM EDT

[#4]

Ok, you have a suspect named Malik Hasam Jabooty Akbar. I wouldn't immediately discount terrorism.

Posted: 11/5/2009 4:07:25 PM EDT

[#5]

Quoted:
Ok, you have a suspect named Malik Hasam Jabooty Akbar. I wouldn't immediately discount terrorism.

He has a prayer rug in one pocket, a Koran in the other. He has an Al Queda membership card in his wallet.

Nope, just a regular guy. Nothing to see, move along.

Posted: 11/5/2009 4:07:40 PM EDT

[#6]

Quoted:
Ok, if the shooter was a white guy named Bob Smith, it would still be "terrorism." What am I missing here????

The people who are saying this are part of the problem.

Ask yourself if the victims were Abortion supporters, or were people inside a Homosexual club, would they be talking about "Hate Crimes"? The answer is, yes, of course they would.

These people are both intellectually lazy AND dishonest.

Posted: 11/5/2009 4:08:19 PM EDT

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Posted: 11/5/2009 4:11:27 PM EDT

[#8]

Quoted:
Didn't you hear?

The Kenyan waved his magic dick in the air and made all the terrorists go away.

Reminded me of the "Magical Negro" skit

Posted: 11/5/2009 4:12:13 PM EDT

[#9]

Quoted:
Didn't you hear?

The .gov calls them "Freedom Fighters" now.

I believe that was the Reagan administration.

Posted: 11/5/2009 4:14:15 PM EDT

[#10]

It was not terrorism, but it was "Pro- Islamic" rhetoric rearing it's ugly head.

Why the fuck is Al Sharpton on O'Reilly right now? Fuck them both.

Posted: 11/5/2009 4:15:25 PM EDT

[#11]

"It raised new questions about the toll that six years of continuous fighting in Iraq and nearly eight years fighting in Afghanistan have taken on the U.S. military and on individual soldiers, many of whom have been on several combat tours."

That's from Reuters.

Do army psychologists go into active duty? Was this shooter in active duty?

These are important political questions, before this is used as liberal leverage.

http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSTRE5A454F20091106

Posted: 11/5/2009 4:16:34 PM EDT

[#12]

ABC evening news finished saying he was an alcoholic gun fanatic.

Posted: 11/5/2009 4:18:14 PM EDT

[#13]

Quoted:

ABC evening news finished saying he was an alcoholic gun fanatic.

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Posted: 11/5/2009 4:19:10 PM EDT

[#14]

Well because we aren't fighting a "war on terror" anymore. It's now called "overseas contingency operations" therefore this could not be terrorism, it's only a poor unloved muslim who wanted to be treated with respect.

Posted: 11/5/2009 4:21:22 PM EDT

[#15]

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ABC evening news finished saying he was an alcoholic gun fanatic.

ABC, I just puked in my mouth a little.

Posted: 11/5/2009 4:22:26 PM EDT

[#16]

where was Obama on 9-12-2001? remember a senator from Illinois meeting with Muslims in Chicago

Posted: 11/5/2009 4:33:49 PM EDT

[#17]

Quoted:
In fairness, no one called the Virginia Tech shooting "terrorism" either. I'm not sure who makes these distinctions.

It's not rocket science. You look at the motive. VT was just plain nuts, this guy, not sure yet.

Posted: 11/5/2009 4:43:07 PM EDT

[#18]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Ok, you have a suspect named Malik Hasam Jabooty Akbar. I wouldn't immediately discount terrorism.

He has a prayer rug in one pocket, a Koran in the other. He has an Al Queda membership card in his wallet.

Nope, just a regular guy. Nothing to see, move along.

terrorism isnt always religious terrorism

Posted: 11/5/2009 4:44:46 PM EDT

[#19]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Ok, you have a suspect named Malik Hasam Jabooty Akbar. I wouldn't immediately discount terrorism.

He has a prayer rug in one pocket, a Koran in the other. He has an Al Queda membership card in his wallet.

Nope, just a regular guy. Nothing to see, move along.

terrorism isnt always religious terrorism

"The Muslims in Iraq need to rise up against the agressor."

This one is.

Posted: 11/5/2009 4:45:58 PM EDT

[#20]

Fucking Haji wannabe was a doctor working with soldiers who had mental issues.

Makes me wonder what shit he was feeding into their ears before he decided to have his own personal meltdown.

Posted: 11/5/2009 4:48:54 PM EDT

[#21]

Don't let the name "HASSAN" throw you off it's not really a surname from a country that practices a certain Religeon or anything.

I'ts just a fluke an Caucasian white guy was supposed to do it but was unavailable so his Middle eastern decended buddy did it for him.

Just like the grenade thrown into the tent full of officers on the eve of the Iraq invasion wasn't terrorism and the guy wasn't a certain religeon then either.

I had better shut up before i get ban hammered, we don't want to offend anybody who would be inclined to commit these acts constantly while denying they do or condone them.

Posted: 11/5/2009 4:50:51 PM EDT

[#22]

Seriously, as an islamist who was vocal about his displeasure with involvment in the middle east and as I heard earlier he thought there should be more fighting the US and he didnt warrant being on any sort of watch list? WTF??

Then our dear overlord Obama continuing his comments on the conference he was attending AND giving a shout out to his acquaintance and joking around before he finally got to the killing of US servicemen.

Obama needs to go.

This political correctness will be the end of us all.

Posted: 11/5/2009 4:51:57 PM EDT

[#23]

Lets see

A radical islamist = Check

Who was extremely upset to be deployed to a middle eastern theatre of operations because he did not want to kill other muslims. = Check

Terrorist = Check

I think he made all the marks on the list.

Posted: 11/5/2009 4:54:30 PM EDT

[#24]

Quoted:

Quoted:
ABC evening news finished saying he was an alcoholic gun fanatic.

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Wow! What Mental Midget thought that up?

Posted: 11/5/2009 4:55:23 PM EDT

[#25]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Didn't you hear?

The .gov calls them "Freedom Fighters" now.

I believe that was the Reagan administration.

http://nikhasnan.files.wordpress.com/2007/12/c12820-32.jpg

I'll bet the White House staff had to fumigate the fargin room after that!

And yea...he was a Muslim terrorist!

Posted: 11/5/2009 4:55:48 PM EDT

[#26]

Quoted:

ABC evening news finished saying he was an alcoholic gun fanatic.

This is from the article on Fox:

"The shooter's cousin, Nader Hasan, told Fox News that their family is in shock.

"We are trying to make sense of all this," Nader Hasan said. "He wasn't even someone who enjoyed going to the firing range."

Something tells me ABC is full of shit...again.

Posted: 11/5/2009 4:57:48 PM EDT

[#27]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Ok, you have a suspect named Malik Hasam Jabooty Akbar. I wouldn't immediately discount terrorism.

He has a prayer rug in one pocket, a Koran in the other. He has an Al Queda membership card in his wallet.

Nope, just a regular guy. Nothing to see, move along.

terrorism isnt always religious terrorism

"The Muslims in Iraq need to rise up against the agressor."

This one is.

This was certainly a case of lone actor jihad.

Posted: 11/5/2009 4:58:45 PM EDT

[#28]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Didn't you hear?

The .gov calls them "Freedom Fighters" now.

I believe that was the Reagan administration.

http://nikhasnan.files.wordpress.com/2007/12/c12820-32.jpg

I'll bet the White House staff had to fumigate the fargin room after that!

And yea...he was a Muslim terrorist!

you read my thoughts..
do you stare at goats?

Posted: 11/5/2009 4:59:03 PM EDT

[#29]

Quoted:

Quoted:
ABC evening news finished saying he was an alcoholic gun fanatic.

ABC, I just puked in my mouth a little.

A faithful Islamic extremist being an alcoholic? Thought the hardcore ones were always against drinking?

Posted: 11/5/2009 5:05:41 PM EDT

[#30]

For those of you still in the service, keep your heads down and pay attention. Never know when the next Johnny Jihad will get riled up. I worry that copycats will be thinking hard about all the publicity.

Posted: 11/5/2009 5:12:07 PM EDT

[#31]

Quoted:
Do army psychologists go into active duty? Was this shooter in active duty?

Yes, he was on active duty, since at least 1999.

He went to the military's medical school (Uniformed Services University) which commissions students as O1s in their respective services. Graduated in 2003 and was promoted to O3. Internship and psychiatry residency at Walter Reed Army Medical Center until 2007. Did a fellowship in disaster and emergency psychiatry at Walter Reed until 2009. Likely promoted to O4 in early or mid 2009. Sent to Fort Hood for his first staff tour. So he's been on active duty and in uniform every day for at least 10 years.

Posted: 11/5/2009 5:13:47 PM EDT

[#32]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Ok, you have a suspect named Malik Hasam Jabooty Akbar. I wouldn't immediately discount terrorism.

He has a prayer rug in one pocket, a Koran in the other. He has an Al Queda membership card in his wallet.

Nope, just a regular guy. Nothing to see, move along.

terrorism isnt always religious terrorism

"The Muslims in Iraq need to rise up against the agressor."

This one is.

I agree. just making a point.

Posted: 11/5/2009 5:19:46 PM EDT

[#33]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Didn't you hear?

The .gov calls them "Freedom Fighters" now.

I believe that was the Reagan administration.

http://nikhasnan.files.wordpress.com/2007/12/c12820-32.jpg

eddiein1984

If you can't tell the difference between the Afghan Mujahideen fighting the Soviets circa 1981 and the Al Queda friendly Taliban of today you need to take your ignorance over to DU.

Monk

Posted: 11/5/2009 5:21:15 PM EDT

[#34]

This is exactly what I was saying earlier. If it's not Jihad, we don't call it terrorism anymore. Seriously, do you think a guy that killed 11 and wounded 31 others was trying to make people feel good? He caused fear which by DEFINITION is terrorism. I agree with the OP.

Posted: 11/5/2009 5:26:54 PM EDT

[#35]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Didn't you hear?

The .gov calls them "Freedom Fighters" now.

I believe that was the Reagan administration.

http://nikhasnan.files.wordpress.com/2007/12/c12820-32.jpg

I'll bet the White House staff had to fumigate the fargin room after that!

And yea...he was a Muslim terrorist!

you read my thoughts..
do you stare at goats?

Clooney stares at goats because he is horny.

Posted: 11/5/2009 5:27:37 PM EDT

[#36]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Ok, you have a suspect named Malik Hasam Jabooty Akbar. I wouldn't immediately discount terrorism.

He has a prayer rug in one pocket, a Koran in the other. He has an Al Queda membership card in his wallet.

Nope, just a regular guy. Nothing to see, move along.

terrorism isnt always religious terrorism

"The Muslims in Iraq need to rise up against the agressor."

This one is.

This was certainly a case of lone actor jihad.

What happened to the other two?

Posted: 11/5/2009 5:32:28 PM EDT

[#37]

Quoted:
This is exactly what I was saying earlier. If it's not Jihad, we don't call it terrorism anymore. Seriously, do you think a guy that killed 11 and wounded 31 others was trying to make people feel good? He caused fear which by DEFINITION is terrorism. I agree with the OP.

Actually part of the problem with terrorism is coming up with legal, political and generally accepted (AKA common sense) definition of terrorism.
The generally accepted definition of terrorism focuses on the methods and objective of the perpetrator.

Terrorism is the systematic use of terror especially as a means of coercion.
At present, there is no internationally agreed definition of terrorism.
Common definitions of terrorism refer only to those violent acts which are intended to create fear (terror), are perpetrated for an ideological goal (as opposed to a lone attack), and deliberately target or disregard the safety of non-combatants.

But what about a lone attack designed to create terror to achieve ideological goal which what the fucktard did in the Texas
I say it's an act of a terrorist.

Monk

Posted: 11/5/2009 5:36:38 PM EDT

[#38]

I dont know but I think we should start another thread about all this.

Posted: 11/5/2009 6:29:27 PM EDT

[#39]

he was a Major. How do you get that rank and not have to be joe American?

Posted: 11/5/2009 6:40:01 PM EDT

[#40]

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he was a Major. How do you get that rank and not have to be joe American?

Like I said, promotions through O4 are automatic in the medical corps.

Anyone can go to medical school. The military offers scholarships. Graduate from med school and you're an O3. Do your time without committing any felonies and in 5 years you're in zone for O4. Virtually 100% select rate ... after six you're an O4.

Posted: 11/5/2009 6:50:35 PM EDT

[#41]

Posted: 11/5/2009 6:58:07 PM EDT

[#42]

Not terrorism but definately an attack by our enemy who was in the wrong uniform and not following Geneva protocols.

Posted: 11/5/2009 7:10:03 PM EDT

[#43]

Quoted:
It was not terrorism, but it was "Pro- Islamic" rhetoric rearing it's ugly head.

Why the fuck is Al Sharpton on O'Reilly right now? Fuck them both.

Fuck Al Sharpton. Why didn't that motherfucker just say he's not a terrorist, he's the newest citizen of the Bahamas!!!