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Posted: 11/2/2009 10:03:11 AM EDT
Tell me why I should or shouldn't buy a Mosin Nagant rifle?
Link Posted: 11/2/2009 10:04:02 AM EDT
[#1]
Cheap ammo

huge cheap fireball

cheap rifle

you can kill most anything with it for cheap



see a trend?


Link Posted: 11/2/2009 10:06:11 AM EDT
[#2]





Quoted:



Tell me why I should or shouldn't buy a Mosin Nagant rifle?




Big bada boom for $79.00 plus whatever your ffl charges.






Forgot to mention the really cool bayonet....





 
Link Posted: 11/2/2009 10:06:44 AM EDT
[#3]
Cheap and most likely has killed germans.
Link Posted: 11/2/2009 10:06:49 AM EDT
[#4]
Quoted:
Cheap ammo
huge cheap fireball
cheap rifle
you can kill most anything with it for cheap

see a trend?


Even ephalents. Cheap.
Link Posted: 11/2/2009 10:07:30 AM EDT
[#5]
bolt action rifles make me queasy...sorry guys, I just don't get it.
Link Posted: 11/2/2009 10:10:23 AM EDT
[#6]
As been stated, some of the cheapest fun and insurance around.
Link Posted: 11/2/2009 10:11:09 AM EDT
[#7]
Quoted:
Cheap ammo
huge cheap fireball
cheap rifle
you can kill most anything with it for cheap

see a trend?


/thread
Link Posted: 11/2/2009 10:11:35 AM EDT
[#8]
Quoted:
bolt action rifles make me queasy...sorry guys, I just don't get it.




Link Posted: 11/2/2009 10:11:43 AM EDT
[#9]
Ammo in a can that comes with a cool can opener.  
Bayonet, sling, oiler, and other weird shit that comes with the rifle.
Piss off everyone at the range with your muzzle blast and fireball.
Cleaning cosmoline is fun and exciting as you can try a new technique every time. Wallpaper steamer works surprisingly well.
Link Posted: 11/2/2009 10:11:59 AM EDT
[#10]
get both................o wait, yea get both
Link Posted: 11/2/2009 10:12:35 AM EDT
[#11]
because they are cheap

the ammo is cheap

they are fun as hell.

they will kill just about anything.
Link Posted: 11/2/2009 10:13:48 AM EDT
[#12]
Thanks for reminding me that I need to buy one, too.

Doo eet.  It's a finely made rifle that's cheap to buy and cheap to feed.
Link Posted: 11/2/2009 10:14:11 AM EDT
[#13]
carbine version or long rifle?
Finnish or Russian?
I have a few. They make me happy. Cheap to shoot, easy to clean, relatively accurate, indestructible and cheap.
Link Posted: 11/2/2009 10:17:17 AM EDT
[#14]
I bought a nagant pistol too.



Haven't shot it yet, haven't done the ammo research yet...
Link Posted: 11/2/2009 10:17:33 AM EDT
[#15]
Mule..........it kicks like one       The carbines that is
Link Posted: 11/2/2009 10:19:52 AM EDT
[#16]
The history by itself is worth more than $79. Everything else is icing. The only reason they are cheap now is because of excess supply. When they dry up, it will be like Liberators, Webleys, Enfields, etc.. all of which were once dirt cheap.
Link Posted: 11/2/2009 10:19:59 AM EDT
[#17]
If you harvest all the cosmoline you'd probably have enough to resell and pay for the rifle?
Link Posted: 11/2/2009 10:20:57 AM EDT
[#18]
Link Posted: 11/2/2009 10:21:19 AM EDT
[#19]
Quoted:
carbine version or long rifle?
Finnish or Russian?
I have a few. They make me happy. Cheap to shoot, easy to clean, relatively accurate, indestructible and cheap.


Relative to what?

Mediocre bullet selection and scope mounts are enough to keep me away from them.

Cool if you're a history buff, but if you just want an inexpensive bolt action, get a Stevens.
Link Posted: 11/2/2009 10:22:10 AM EDT
[#20]
I have an M44 and a 91-30. The M44 is beyond inaccurate. I can't even hit a full sized paper target at 50 yards after a couple of shots and the barrel warms up. I have NO IDEA where the rounds go, it's that far off. Bayonet out or in, it does not matter.

Of course, proper bedding of the M44, or more specifically, free floating the barrel and getting rid of the bayonet may help a bunch. My guess is that it is so tight in the stock that the warmer barrel expands and warps due to the tight fit. However, I will never know, as I won't likely shoot the thing again. It's simply a decoration at this point.

The 91-30 is generally regarded as being fairly accurate. Some even mount a scope on these things and use them for hunting. Not a bad idea. However, the scope mount is a crummy design and is not likely to retain accuracy very well unless it's welded in place.
Link Posted: 11/2/2009 10:22:11 AM EDT
[#21]
Quoted:
bolt action rifles make me queasy...sorry guys, I just don't get it.


Have you ever shot one? The mosin is a damn fine rifle for the money. Buy one and try it. Hell you can sell it for what you pay for it pretty easy.

Link Posted: 11/2/2009 10:22:45 AM EDT
[#22]
Quoted:
Quoted:
bolt action rifles make me queasy...sorry guys, I just don't get it.






Link Posted: 11/2/2009 10:25:13 AM EDT
[#23]
They won't stay cheap forever. Get'em while the get'ins good!

They are also great rifles.
Link Posted: 11/2/2009 10:26:06 AM EDT
[#24]
You can get a rifle and 440 rounds for about 200 bucks. Why the hell not?
Link Posted: 11/2/2009 10:33:00 AM EDT
[#25]



Quoted:


You can get a rifle and 440 rounds for about 200 bucks. Why the hell not?


And the ammo comes in a sweet can that smells like communist Russia when you open it!



 
Link Posted: 11/2/2009 10:35:13 AM EDT
[#26]
I just saw a whole arsenal case of these at the York, PA funshow.
They look very pretty in person, especially a whole case of them.
Link Posted: 11/2/2009 10:35:43 AM EDT
[#27]
im buying one as soon as i get the money
Link Posted: 11/2/2009 10:35:46 AM EDT
[#28]



Quoted:


Mule..........it kicks like one       The carbines that is


Yes the M44 will bruise your shoulder no matter how you hold it.



It's awesome.



 
Link Posted: 11/2/2009 10:36:43 AM EDT
[#29]
Hows the accuracy without a ton of modifications?
I am guessing there are scope mounts/receivers that can be put on as well...so might not make a bad hunting rifle.
Link Posted: 11/2/2009 10:43:45 AM EDT
[#30]
Where's the best place to pick one up?



I watched Enemy At The Gate this weekend and now I want one

Link Posted: 11/2/2009 10:45:43 AM EDT
[#31]
Quoted:
Hows the accuracy without a ton of modifications?
I am guessing there are scope mounts/receivers that can be put on as well...so might not make a bad hunting rifle.


Minute of pie plate at 100 yards.

Scope mounts are bit spendy for them. I say leave it as it comes.

They will condition your shoulder to take a punishment :) makes my 12 ga seem super friendly.
Link Posted: 11/2/2009 10:45:56 AM EDT
[#32]
Quoted:
Where's the best place to pick one up?

I watched Enemy At The Gate this weekend and now I want one


http://www.the-armory.com/shopsite_sc/store/html/Mosin_Nagant.html
Link Posted: 11/2/2009 10:47:05 AM EDT
[#33]
Quoted:

Quoted:
Mule..........it kicks like one       The carbines that is

Yes the M44 will bruise your shoulder no matter how you hold it.

It's awesome.
 


Not true, I can shoot my Mosin carbines without getting bruised, but most folks do get bruised.

But yes, they are awesome!
Link Posted: 11/2/2009 10:47:10 AM EDT
[#34]
More excess crap to fill up your gun safe when you could be getting more ammo for your existing firearms.

Just a thought
Link Posted: 11/2/2009 10:49:05 AM EDT
[#35]
Asking that question is like asking if you should have sex.

Sex! Why Should I?

If it has to be explained you just won't get it. :)

Cause! That's why! Just Cause! You'll get it afterwards! :)
Link Posted: 11/2/2009 10:52:59 AM EDT
[#36]
Quoted:
Quoted:
carbine version or long rifle?
Finnish or Russian?
I have a few. They make me happy. Cheap to shoot, easy to clean, relatively accurate, indestructible and cheap.


Relative to what?

Mediocre bullet selection and scope mounts are enough to keep me away from them.

Cool if you're a history buff, but if you just want an inexpensive bolt action, get a Stevens.


Depends on which Mosin we're talking about. An M44 is fun but you cant hit the side of a barn with it, a 91/30 with the right ammo is accurate enough to take down to the range and enjoy, maybe hunt with. A Finnish M39 will blow your mind though it's not exactly the "cheap" Moisin that most people refer too.
Link Posted: 11/2/2009 10:54:23 AM EDT
[#37]
Quoted:
I have an M44 and a 91-30. The M44 is beyond inaccurate. I can't even hit a full sized paper target at 50 yards after a couple of shots and the barrel warms up. I have NO IDEA where the rounds go, it's that far off. Bayonet out or in, it does not matter.

Of course, proper bedding of the M44, or more specifically, free floating the barrel and getting rid of the bayonet may help a bunch. My guess is that it is so tight in the stock that the warmer barrel expands and warps due to the tight fit. However, I will never know, as I won't likely shoot the thing again. It's simply a decoration at this point.

The 91-30 is generally regarded as being fairly accurate. Some even mount a scope on these things and use them for hunting. Not a bad idea. However, the scope mount is a crummy design and is not likely to retain accuracy very well unless it's welded in place.


O_P has a good article about corking the stock to put positive pressure on the barrel to prevent some of the whip when it warms up.
Link Posted: 11/2/2009 10:54:33 AM EDT
[#38]
It may be the most history you can hold with two hands.
Link Posted: 11/2/2009 10:54:37 AM EDT
[#39]
Quoted:
Quoted:
carbine version or long rifle?
Finnish or Russian?
I have a few. They make me happy. Cheap to shoot, easy to clean, relatively accurate, indestructible and cheap.


Relative to what?

Mediocre bullet selection and scope mounts are enough to keep me away from them.

Cool if you're a history buff, but if you just want an inexpensive bolt action, get a Stevens.


I can ring a 10 inch gong at 300 meters on iron sights pretty consistantly.  Your just doing it wrong or got a shitty mosin.
Link Posted: 11/2/2009 11:02:00 AM EDT
[#40]



Quoted:


bolt action rifles make me queasy...sorry guys, I just don't get it.


get out





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Link Posted: 11/2/2009 11:04:36 AM EDT
[#41]
I have two of the 3 band rifles, a 1915 M91 and a 1934 91/30. Both are good plinkers. I occasionally use the 91/30 to hunt with.
Link Posted: 11/2/2009 11:06:10 AM EDT
[#42]
Heck for $79.99 I can equip the whole family with a rifle.  !
I might just have to order one.

91/30 or m44?  which is better or they about the same?
Link Posted: 11/2/2009 11:07:40 AM EDT
[#43]
Quoted:
Heck for $79.99 I can equip the whole family with a rifle.  !
I might just have to order one.

91/30 or m44?  which is better or they about the same?


Personally I would go for the 91/30 every time. There's a LOT of difference between that and the m44 in regards to accuracy, not to mention shootability (aka recoil - the M44's a bit naughty in that dept).
Link Posted: 11/2/2009 11:08:48 AM EDT
[#44]
Quoted:
Heck for $79.99 I can equip the whole family with a rifle.  !
I might just have to order one.

91/30 or m44?  which is better or they about the same?


The 91/30 will be slightly more accurate. Whether this is due to the gun itself or just the longer sight radius... Well...?

The M44 will kick more, shoot more flame, has a fold out bayonet and is generally more bad ass
Link Posted: 11/2/2009 11:08:50 AM EDT
[#45]
Mosins make up about 50 percent of my collection.  I have some hard to get ones.  Straight stocked M39s, M28, a couple M27s, mint Finnish M91(Ibought this off the EE 6 years ago for $65 shipped) and a P26.  I bought them mostly because of the history.  Mine have fought Germans AND Russians.  

The price can't beat.
Link Posted: 11/2/2009 11:10:01 AM EDT
[#46]
I have several and I love them. More fun per dollar than any other rifle you can buy.
Link Posted: 11/2/2009 11:10:24 AM EDT
[#47]
I have several and I love them. More fun per dollar than any other rifle you can buy.
Link Posted: 11/2/2009 11:11:49 AM EDT
[#48]



Quoted:



Quoted:


Quoted:

carbine version or long rifle?

Finnish or Russian?

I have a few. They make me happy. Cheap to shoot, easy to clean, relatively accurate, indestructible and cheap.




Relative to what?



Mediocre bullet selection and scope mounts are enough to keep me away from them.



Cool if you're a history buff, but if you just want an inexpensive bolt action, get a Stevens.




I can ring a 10 inch gong at 300 meters on iron sights pretty consistantly.  Your just doing it wrong or got a shitty mosin.


Mine is really accurate as well, it's a 91/30 so that may have something to do with it though. OP you need to have one, they're stupid fun and even with FMJs the "explosion" of dirt at the end of the range when you shoot it is entertaining



 
Link Posted: 11/2/2009 11:12:29 AM EDT
[#49]
I love my Mosin. Big boom for little money. Anything with a bayonet is inherently cool.

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Link Posted: 11/2/2009 11:12:39 AM EDT
[#50]
I have a 91/30 'ex' sniper with the original weld holes and stock.

Shot at 100 and 200 yards with just irons and cheap surplus ammo and was amazed when I saw how small the groups were. I have since ordered the correct PU mount and an original PU scope. Have been slacking on getting them professionally installed.
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