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Posted: 11/2/2009 9:05:38 AM EDT
http://www.watertowndailytimes.com/article/20091102/NEWS05/311029955
Look, let me ask you guys something. Suppose that we took back the House of Representatives and that THIS woman was the swing vote. Tell me how, exactly, that ends up being a good thing? |
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They really don't want anyone outside of their little circle jerk to win.
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But, but but.. Anybody with an R after their name is good to have in office.
And the presence of 3rd party candidates only hurt the Republican party... At least she was unmasked now, rather then after the elections. |
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Republicans who are pro choice, open borders pro Gay marrage, Brady bunch voters are not Republicans.
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http://www.watertowndailytimes.com/article/20091102/NEWS05/311029955 Look, let me ask you guys something. Suppose that we took back the House of Representatives and that THIS woman was the swing vote. Tell me how, exactly, that ends up being a good thing? The GOP will be the death of the GOP. Did you see Newt's comments about this. He said basically, I'm stunned she's backing the Democrat, "She told us she was a Republican." Even Boehner said, we need moderation in the GOP. (The GOP is infested with moderation) |
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IMO, theGOP is behind this. They aren't afraid of Hoffman. They're afraid of Palins star power and PAC is he wins.
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If your going to throw away any future political career and any shred of credibility you might have ever had, then go out with a bang, burn all your bridges and just act like a retard in general.
This should help Hoffman immensely. "St. Lawrence County Democratic Committee Chairman Mark J. Bellardini predicted Mr. Owens will gain votes with his focus on local issues. "It should be about this district," he said. "I think that the rank and file will support him." "Rank and file" = Be good little serfs and vote like we order you to. |
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ANYthing to keep the two party system.
These people have absolutely no interest in governing efficiently or justly, they just want to keep power. R's and D's both. And the way things are so entrenched in DC, the two party system lets the same folks keep power pretty much as long as they want. |
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What a hateful, classless bull-dyke.
I hope Hoffman kicks butt tomorrow. I just talked with someone from one of his HQs, and they're very optimistic. "Euphoric" was the term she used. |
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Republicans who are pro choice, open borders pro Gay marrage, Brady bunch voters are not Republicans. Actually, that's exactly what many of the RINOs in office are. What they are NOT, are conservatives. And they cannot even be mentioned on the same page as libertarians. Scuzzo is now fully outed as the liberal in RINO's clothing she has always been; no one should be surprised. |
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Suppose that we took back the House of Representatives and that THIS woman was the swing vote. Tell me how, exactly, that ends up being a good thing? Simple: this is chess not checkers. Don't ask me what that really means. It's just what was said on arfcom during the last election when we were supposed to vote for RINOs. |
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ANYthing to keep the two party system.
These people have absolutely no interest in governing efficiently or justly, they just want to keep power. R's and D's both. And the way things are so entrenched in DC, the two party system lets the same folks keep power pretty much as long as they want. |
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http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1109/29008.html
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Sarah Palin smoked out a traitor to principle that is now a proven traitor to party.
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There's a lot of press warning us not to go overboard and try to kick the "moderates" out of the GOP.
BS!!! She's no moderate. She's a liberal. We're trying to kick the *Democrats* out of the GOP.
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With the race this close, what do you think are the chances of ACORN-registered more than the actual number of qualified voters, stuffing the ballot box?
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Well, now that Halloween is over - she decided to take off her mask. And Newt is shocked by this!??? |
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There's a lot of press warning us not to go overboard and try to kick the "moderates" out of the GOP. BS!!! She's no moderate. She's a liberal. We're trying to kick the *Democrats* out of the GOP. dITTO! |
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Republicans who are pro choice, open borders pro Gay marrage, Brady bunch voters are not Republicans. Actually, that's exactly what many of the RINOs in office are. What they are NOT, are conservatives. And they cannot even be mentioned on the same page as libertarians. Scuzzo is now fully outed as the liberal in RINO's clothing she has always been; no one should be surprised. Yup, but to be fair he said Republicans. Since Republicans are no longer the party of Conservatism he could be correct. Obviously Conservatives are not for open borders or gun control, but the Democrat Lite Party sure is. |
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I want to here that POS Gingrich explain how a Republican that he supported is now supporting the Democrat.
Plus just how electing Scozzyfava would have been good for the Republican party. The Ungrateful bitch is backing the Democrat to spite the Republican Party. She doesn't care about anything but herself. C'mon Newt, start splaining! |
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Quoted: Quoted: Suppose that we took back the House of Representatives and that THIS woman was the swing vote. Tell me how, exactly, that ends up being a good thing? Simple: this is chess not checkers. Don't ask me what that really means. It's just what was said on arfcom during the last election when we were supposed to vote for RINOs. Wrong. Voting for a third-party Conservative on election day who never polled above 5% is stupidly suicidal. Voting for a third-party Conservative who is BEATING the RINO and the Dem is the only smart thing to do. |
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Quoted: Explain Arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrlen then with that logic.Quoted: Quoted: Suppose that we took back the House of Representatives and that THIS woman was the swing vote. Tell me how, exactly, that ends up being a good thing? Simple: this is chess not checkers. Don't ask me what that really means. It's just what was said on arfcom during the last election when we were supposed to vote for RINOs. Wrong. Voting for a third-party Conservative on election day who never polled above 5% is stupidly suicidal. Voting for a third-party Conservative who is BEATING the RINO and the Dem is the only smart thing to do. |
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There's a lot of press warning us not to go overboard and try to kick the "moderates" out of the GOP. BS!!! She's no moderate. She's a liberal. We're trying to kick the *Democrats* out of the GOP. dITTO! Yea ...around 200 of them |
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Marco Rubio is one to watch here in Florida.
I'm loving Scuzziefava right now - she gives me great ammo for the people trying to convince me how great Charlie Crist is because he is the 'official endorsed' candidate of the party. Support Marco and all true conservatives and we may actually turn this freaking mess around.
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Suppose that we took back the House of Representatives and that THIS woman was the swing vote. Tell me how, exactly, that ends up being a good thing? Simple: this is chess not checkers. Don't ask me what that really means. It's just what was said on arfcom during the last election when we were supposed to vote for RINOs. Wrong. Voting for a third-party Conservative on election day who never polled above 5% is stupidly suicidal. Voting for a third-party Conservative who is BEATING the RINO and the Dem is the only smart thing to do. Sorry; I'm never voting for someone who I don't want to win again. I won't throw my vote away on RINOs at any level of government. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Suppose that we took back the House of Representatives and that THIS woman was the swing vote. Tell me how, exactly, that ends up being a good thing? Simple: this is chess not checkers. Don't ask me what that really means. It's just what was said on arfcom during the last election when we were supposed to vote for RINOs. Wrong. Voting for a third-party Conservative on election day who never polled above 5% is stupidly suicidal. Voting for a third-party Conservative who is BEATING the RINO and the Dem is the only smart thing to do. Sorry, but I disagree to a point. Voting for a RINO who is polling ahead instead of a strong conservative 3rd party member is as big, if not bigger of a mistake. I would rather see a D get elected then a RINO. That way when everything goes to shit (as it always does when they are in charge), the finger of blame can be pointed in one direction and one direction only. |
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There's a lot of press warning us not to go overboard and try to kick the "moderates" out of the GOP. BS!!! She's no moderate. She's a liberal. We're trying to kick the *Democrats* out of the GOP. dITTO! Yea ...around 200 of them Including the ones in Texas ??? |
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You know what pisses me off about the whole Scozzafava thing is the fact the republican party was sooooo happy and content to run her as their candidate .Fucking A holes.
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You know what pisses me off about the whole Scozzafava thing is the fact the republican party was sooooo happy and content to run her as their candidate .Fucking A holes. I wish it was just this case. We also have, just to name a few: Olympia Snow Charlie Christ Arhald Makes me want to puke violently. |
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Suppose that we took back the House of Representatives and that THIS woman was the swing vote. Tell me how, exactly, that ends up being a good thing? Simple: this is chess not checkers. Don't ask me what that really means. It's just what was said on arfcom during the last election when we were supposed to vote for RINOs. Wrong. Voting for a third-party Conservative on election day who never polled above 5% is stupidly suicidal. Voting for a third-party Conservative who is BEATING the RINO and the Dem is the only smart thing to do. Sorry, but I disagree to a point. Voting for a RINO who is polling ahead instead of a strong conservative 3rd party member is as big, if not bigger of a mistake. I would rather see a D get elected then a RINO. That way when everything goes to shit (as it always does when they are in charge), the finger of blame can be pointed in one direction and one direction only. Check out the first part of this article. The woman is married to a Union Boss and has never really been conservative. She almost RAN for the Democrats for this seat. http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/dailypolitics/2009/07/democrats-fan-the-flames-of-sc.html The local and national GOP fucked this up so bad I cannot believe it. Here's the deal: 1. Fire Michael Steele. This happened on his watch, and he's a fucking RINO anyway. Replace him with Fred Thompson's super smart and highly media savy young wife. She'll be able to look to Fred for popular support, but will vibe with younger women etc. 2. Face to face interviews with every RINO in the party, starting with those sitting in and with an eye on Congress. You don't have to be homogeneous on the details of legislation you would move forward or oppose, but you need to at least be a fucking conservative to be in the party. The slogan should be "We welcome moderates, but if you're really just a Democrat we'll ask you to go join that party." 3. The religious right needs to get its own ultimatum: Folks, limited government, states rights, and fiscal accountability and as Regan would say "libertarian ideals" are at the heart of conservationism. These are matters between the government and its citizens. Abortion and gay marriage should not be national issues. Don't expect us to make them national issues. |
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Scozzafava's concession speech
I am and have always been a proud Republican. It is my hope that with my actions today, my Party will emerge stronger...
Yeah, sure. |
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Tom Davis, former head of the National Republican Congressional Committee, said this rage against the GOP machine might feel good for disgruntled conservatives, but it could also land Republicans deep in the minority for years to come.
Yeah, because following the RINO line has done wonders for us over the past five years or so. |
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This is bad news. Now the moderate Republicans in the district can vote for the Democrat. I now think Owens will win.
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I heard of plenty of bitching about both Scozzafava being a traitor and Hoffman being a puppet of outsiders today. Remember Hoffman "applied" to the county leaders and promised not to run if he was not chosen as the R candidate, so he's about as true to his word as any other politician.
I was kind of surprised about some of the bitching I heard about Hoffman. Hoffman had 'sign wavers" out in force this weekend but Owens had a bunch out today. In fact I got rear ended by some idiot who was looking at the Owens sign wavers this morning I have a suspicion the Owens folk were outside the district but not sure. In the election where we lost the state senate to the Democrats there were plenty of Democrat campaign goons brought in, I would assume mostly by the unions. We have had some problems with them around the polling places but nothing has ever officially come of it that I know of. edit I think Republicans will mostly be furious with Scozzafava and aren't going to be convinced by her endorsement. Hell I got a bunch of crap in the mail TODAY from her blasting Owens (I think it said that, threw it out without looking). I'm not sure if they will vote for Hoffman or stay home. I guess Hoffman has some message crabbing about Owens being "a lawyer who helps people cheat the IRS" pretty ballsy from an accountant |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Suppose that we took back the House of Representatives and that THIS woman was the swing vote. Tell me how, exactly, that ends up being a good thing? Simple: this is chess not checkers. Don't ask me what that really means. It's just what was said on arfcom during the last election when we were supposed to vote for RINOs. Wrong. Voting for a third-party Conservative on election day who never polled above 5% is stupidly suicidal. Voting for a third-party Conservative who is BEATING the RINO and the Dem is the only smart thing to do. Sorry; I'm never voting for someone who I don't want to win again. I won't throw my vote away on RINOs at any level of government. In effect, you are. By voting for a non-viable candidate, you help assure that the worst of three evils (the one MOST diametrically opposed to your positions) gets elected. |
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Quoted: This is bad news. Now the moderate Republicans in the district can vote for the Democrat. I now think Owens will win. Hoffman is up 6% in the polls. |
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Quoted: What poll?Quoted: This is bad news. Now the moderate Republicans in the district can vote for the Democrat. I now think Owens will win. Hoffman is up 6% in the polls. nevermind http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=950019 |
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This is bad news. Now the moderate Republicans in the district can vote for the Democrat. I now think Owens will win. I don't think so. A lot of RINO's may have simply sat out the election if Scozzafava hadn't endorsed the Dem. I'm betting many will be PO'ed at her betrayal, and will vote accordingly. |
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Republicans who are pro choice, open borders pro Gay marrage, Brady bunch voters are not Republicans. Actually, that's exactly what many of the RINOs in office are. What they are NOT, are conservatives. And they cannot even be mentioned on the same page as libertarians. Scuzzo is now fully outed as the liberal in RINO's clothing she has always been; no one should be surprised. I was a little bit surprised she went full bore for the dem, I figured she'd just fade away. But I'm kind of glad she outed herself as a liberal. JMO |
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Of course she is.
You have to understand that these people vacation together and then return to fight in front of the cameras. An outsider, God forbid one who cared about the constituents, is a dire threat. |
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The RNC is so stupid. Way to pick a winner idiots. This is going to end up being a good thing inspite of the RNC strategery.
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Suppose that we took back the House of Representatives and that THIS woman was the swing vote. Tell me how, exactly, that ends up being a good thing? Simple: this is chess not checkers. Don't ask me what that really means. It's just what was said on arfcom during the last election when we were supposed to vote for RINOs. Wrong. Voting for a third-party Conservative on election day who never polled above 5% is stupidly suicidal. Voting for a third-party Conservative who is BEATING the RINO and the Dem is the only smart thing to do. Sorry; I'm never voting for someone who I don't want to win again. I won't throw my vote away on RINOs at any level of government. In effect, you are. By voting for a non-viable candidate, you help assure that the worst of three evils (the one MOST diametrically opposed to your positions) gets elected. Mac: Will you at least agree with me that if your ONLY viable candidate with an "R" is actually more liberal than Hillary Clinton, that you may be better off losing the district and working on hearts and minds? Do you agree that having THIS PERSON as the swing vote only fucks you up again and again and again? |
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This is bad news. Now the moderate Republicans in the district can vote for the Democrat. I now think Owens will win. I don't think so. A lot of RINO's may have simply sat out the election if Scozzafava hadn't endorsed the Dem. I'm betting many will be PO'ed at her betrayal, and will vote accordingly. Good point. Since voter turnout is what really matters in a off-off-year election, maybe only 20% of the voters will vote and hopefully 60% of the conservative vote goes for Hoffman. |
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Suppose that we took back the House of Representatives and that THIS woman was the swing vote. Tell me how, exactly, that ends up being a good thing? Simple: this is chess not checkers. Don't ask me what that really means. It's just what was said on arfcom during the last election when we were supposed to vote for RINOs. Wrong. Voting for a third-party Conservative on election day who never polled above 5% is stupidly suicidal. Voting for a third-party Conservative who is BEATING the RINO and the Dem is the only smart thing to do. Sorry, but I disagree to a point. Voting for a RINO who is polling ahead instead of a strong conservative 3rd party member is as big, if not bigger of a mistake. I would rather see a D get elected then a RINO. That way when everything goes to shit (as it always does when they are in charge), the finger of blame can be pointed in one direction and one direction only. The problem is the delay between the policy implementation and the failure. FDR/New Deal and LBJ/Great Society programs are some of the worst, but free market conservatism appeared to be dead from the '30s to 1980. The 2008 election was a problem for conservatives, because the choice was between McCain and Obama. RINO or socialist. I vote for the RINO to save my country, even if it meant possibly hurting the conservative movement. |
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