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Russia 'simulates' nuclear attack on Poland
Russia has provoked outrage in Poland by simulating an air and sea attack on the country during military exercises. By Matthew Day in Warsaw Published: 4:37PM GMT 01 Nov 2009 The armed forces are said to have carried out "war games" in which nuclear missiles were fired and troops practised an amphibious landing on the country's coast. Documents obtained by Wprost, one of Poland's leading news magazines, said the exercise was carried out in conjunction with soldiers from Belarus. The manoeuvres are thought to have been held in September and involved about 13,000 Russian and Belarusian troops. Poland, which has strained relations with both countries, was cast as the "potential aggressor". The documents state the exercises, code-named "West", were officially classified as "defensive" but many of the operations appeared to have an offensive nature. The Russian air force practised using weapons from its nuclear arsenal, while in the Russian enclave of Kaliningrad, which neighbours Poland, Red Army forces stormed a "Polish" beach and attacked a gas pipeline. The operation also involved the simulated suppression of an uprising by a national minority in Belarus – the country has a significant Polish population which has a strained relationship with authoritarian government of Belarus. Karol Karski, an MP from Poland's Law and Justice, is to table parliamentary questions on Russia's war games and has protested to the European Commission. His colleague, Marek Opiola MP, said: "It's an attempt to put us in our place. Don't forget all this happened on the 70th anniversary of the Soviet invasion of Poland." Ordinary Poles were outraged by news of the exercise and demanded a firm response fro the government. One man, identified only as Ted, told Polskie Radio: "Russia has laid bare its real intentions with respect to Poland. Every Pole most now get of the off the fence and be counted as a patriot or a traitor." Donald Tusk, Poland's prime minister, has tried to build a pragmatic relationship with the Kremlin despite widespread and vocal calls in Poland for him to cool ties with Moscow. After spending 40 years under Soviet domination few in Poland trust Russia, and many Poles have become increasingly wary of a country they consider as possessing a neo-imperialistic agenda. Bogdan Klich, Poland’s defence minister, said: “It is a demonstration of strength. We are monitoring the exercises to see what has been planned. Wladyslaw Stasiak, chief of President Lech Kaczynski’s office, and a former head of Poland’s National Security Council, added: “We didn’t like the appearance of the exercises and the name harked back to the days of the Warsaw Pact.” The Russian troop exercises will come as an unwelcome sight to the states nestling on Russia’s western border who have deep-rooted anxieties over any Russian show of strength. With a resurgent Moscow now more willing to flex its muscles, Central and Eastern Europeans have warned of Russia adopting a neo-imperialistic attitude to an area of the world it still regards as its sphere of influence. In July, the region’s most famed and influential political figures, including Lech Walesa and Vaclav Havel, wrote an open letter Barack Obama warning him that Russia “is back as a revisionist power pursuing a 19th-century agenda with 21st-century tactics and methods.” Moscow and Minsk have insisted that Operation West was to help "ensure the strategic stability in the East European region". http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/poland/6480227/Russia-simulates-nuclear-attack-on-Poland.html |
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what they've omitted is that the Germans also conducted a similar attack sans nuclear arms from the opposite side of Poland......
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Let me give you some sage advice. Grow the fuck up, get the fuck over it, forget these childish games and worry about your eastern frontier. Sincerely, Heavy Metal |
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Dear Russia, Let me give you some sage advice. Grow the fuck up, get the fuck over it, forget these childish games and worry about your eastern frontier. Sincerely, Heavy Metal VLAD PUTIN will be back in 2012 and can run for 12 years |
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Most nation-states have plans for conventional or non-conventional warfare upon neighboring states or other perceived threats in regional or trans-regional concerns.
This shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone. Thanks vito113 for clearing this up for us. |
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How's that hope and change working out for Poland? Poland doesn't like Obama, but the still love Reagan. They still name roads and schools after him, and if I'm not mistaken have a statue. |
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Poland may as well just hand over the govt to the Russians again and cut their losses. We don't have their back. We got no one's back. Despite our brave servicemen/women, the USA is the biggest pussy in the world because the commander-in-chief is the biggest pussy in the world. The NATO alliance won't stick together either, they can't even cooperate to hunt down bin laden.
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Dear Russia, Let me give you some sage advice. Grow the fuck up, get the fuck over it, forget these childish games and worry about your eastern frontier. Sincerely, Heavy Metal http://marcvallee.files.wordpress.com/2007/12/platon_putin1.jpg VLAD PUTIN will be back in 2012 and can run for 12 years We'll be a third world country by then and lose Alaska to Puta(in) while China and him go the fuck at it. I kinda just wish I could be in suspended animation and watch the next 50 years of news while there. It'd be interesting and scary as fuck. |
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Dear Russia, Let me give you some sage advice. Grow the fuck up, get the fuck over it, forget these childish games and worry about your eastern frontier. Sincerely, Heavy Metal http://marcvallee.files.wordpress.com/2007/12/platon_putin1.jpg VLAD PUTIN will be back in 2012 and can run for 12 years We'll be a third world country by then and lose Alaska to Puta(in) while China and him go the fuck at it. I kinda just wish I could be in suspended animation and watch the next 50 years of news while there. It'd be interesting and scary as fuck. Russia is the one teetering on becoming a third world country. |
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Poland may as well just hand over the govt to the Russians again and cut their losses. We don't have their back. We got no one's back. Despite our brave servicemen/women, the USA is the biggest pussy in the world because the commander-in-chief is the biggest pussy in the world. The NATO alliance won't stick together either, they can't even cooperate to hunt down bin laden. Poland is fukt. Yup… Moscow is just reminding Poland that Western talk is cheap, but the Moscow Military District is very real and parked next door kicking it's heels. "It's an attempt to put us in our place. Don't forget all this happened on the 70th anniversary of the Soviet invasion of Poland." Marek Opiola, Polish MP |
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[/quote] We'll be a third world country by then and lose Alaska to Puta(in) while China and him go the fuck at it. I kinda just wish I could be in suspended animation and watch the next 50 years of news while there. It'd be interesting and scary as fuck.[/quote] I have a feeling if russia and china ever really went at it, when you got up from suspended animation you would feel very very alone....the scenery would suck too. When tose two have their dick measuring contest, they will not stop on their own. |
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Dear Russia, Let me give you some sage advice. Grow the fuck up, get the fuck over it, forget these childish games and worry about your eastern frontier. Sincerely, Heavy Metal http://marcvallee.files.wordpress.com/2007/12/platon_putin1.jpg VLAD PUTIN will be back in 2012 and can run for 12 years We'll be a third world country by then and lose Alaska to Puta(in) while China and him go the fuck at it. I kinda just wish I could be in suspended animation and watch the next 50 years of news while there. It'd be interesting and scary as fuck. Russia is the one teetering on becoming a third world country. Is that so? Expanding economy and a huge balance of trade surplus based on oil, gas, minerals and other commodity exports… Yup, they're going down the pan as we speak. |
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Dear Russia, Let me give you some sage advice. Grow the fuck up, get the fuck over it, forget these childish games and worry about your eastern frontier. Sincerely, Heavy Metal http://marcvallee.files.wordpress.com/2007/12/platon_putin1.jpg VLAD PUTIN will be back in 2012 and can run for 12 years We'll be a third world country by then and lose Alaska to Puta(in) while China and him go the fuck at it. I kinda just wish I could be in suspended animation and watch the next 50 years of news while there. It'd be interesting and scary as fuck. Russia is the one teetering on becoming a third world country. Is that so? Expanding economy and a huge balance of trade surplus based on oil, gas, minerals and other commodity exports… Yup, they're going down the pan as we speak. Don't mistake one good day of weather for a long term trend. If Russia doesn't pull its head out of its ass, it is history. Demographics is destiny. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/10/03/AR2008100301976.html Behind the Bluster, Russia Is Collapsing
Men sleep after drinking on a bench in downtown Moscow. (Alexei Sazonov - AP Photo/Alexei Sazonov) TOOLBOX Resize Print E-mail Yahoo! Buzz COMMENT 99 Comments | View All » COMMENTS ARE CLOSED Your browser's settings may be preventing you from commenting on and viewing comments about this item. See instructions for fixing the problem. Discussion Policy CLOSEComments that include profanity or personal attacks or other inappropriate comments or material will be removed from the site. Additionally, entries that are unsigned or contain "signatures" by someone other than the actual author will be removed. Finally, we will take steps to block users who violate any of our posting standards, terms of use or privacy policies or any other policies governing this site. Please review the full rules governing commentaries and discussions. You are fully responsible for the content that you post. Who's Blogging» Links to this article By Murray Feshbach Sunday, October 5, 2008 The bear is back. That's what all too many Russia-watchers have been saying since Russian troops steamrolled Georgia in August, warning that the country's strongman, Vladimir Putin, was clawing his way back toward superpower status. The new Russia's resurgence has been fueled –– quite literally –– by windfall profits from gas and oil, a big jump in defense spending and the cocky attitude on such display during the mauling of Georgia, its U.S.-backed neighbor to the south. Many now believe that the powerful Russian bear of the Cold War years is coming out of hibernation. Not so fast. Predictions that Russia will again become powerful, rich and influential ignore some simply devastating problems at home that block any march to power. Sure, Russia's army could take tiny Georgia. But Putin's military is still in tatters, armed with rusting weaponry and staffed with indifferent recruits. Meanwhile, a declining population is robbing the military of a new generation of soldiers. Russia's economy is almost totally dependent on the price of oil. And, worst of all, it's facing a public health crisis that verges on the catastrophic. To be sure, the skylines of Russia's cities are chock-a-block with cranes. Industrial lofts are now the rage in Moscow, Russian tourists crowd far-flung locales from Thailand to the Caribbean, and Russian moguls are snapping up real estate and art in London almost as quickly as their oil-rich counterparts from the Persian Gulf. But behind the shiny surface, Russian society may actually be weaker than it was even during Soviet times. The Kremlin's recent military adventures and tough talk are the bluster of the frail, not the swagger of the strong. While Russia has capitalized impressively on its oil industry, the volatility of the world oil market means that Putin cannot count on a long-term pipeline of cash flowing from high oil prices. A predicted drop of about one-third in the price of a barrel of oil will surely constrain Putin's ability to carry out his ambitious agendas, both foreign and domestic. That makes Moscow's announced plan to boost defense spending by close to 26 percent in 2009 –– in order to fully re-arm its military with state-of-the-art weaponry –– a dicey proposition. What the world saw in Georgia was a badly outdated arsenal, one that would take many years to replace –– even assuming the country could afford the $200 billion cost. Something even larger is blocking Russia's march. Recent decades, most notably since the breakup of the Soviet Union in 1991, have seen an appalling deterioration in the health of the Russian population, anchoring Russia not in the forefront of developed countries but among the most backward of nations. This is a tragedy of huge proportions –– but not a particularly surprising one, at least to me. I followed population, health and environmental issues in the Soviet Union for decades, and more recently, I have reported on diseases such as the HIV/AIDS epidemic ravaging the Russian population. I've visited Russia more than 50 times over the years, so I can say from firsthand experience that this national calamity isn't happening suddenly. It's happening inexorably. According to U.N. figures, the average life expectancy for a Russian man is 59 years –– putting the country at about 166th place in the world longevity sweepstakes, one notch above Gambia. For women, the picture is somewhat rosier: They can expect to live, on average, 73 years, barely beating out the Moldovans. But there are still some 126 countries where they could expect to live longer. And the gap between expected longevity for men and for women –– 14 years –– is the largest in the developed world. So what's killing the Russians? All the usual suspects –– HIV/AIDS, tuberculosis, alcoholism, cancer, cardiovascular and circulatory diseases, suicides, smoking, traffic accidents –– but they occur in alarmingly large numbers, and Moscow has neither the resources nor the will to stem the tide. Consider this: Three times as many Russians die from heart-related illnesses as do Americans or Europeans, per each 100,000 people. Tuberculosis deaths in Russia are about triple the World Health Organization's definition of an epidemic, which is based on a new-case rate of 50 cases per 100,000 people. Average alcohol consumption per capita is double the rate the WHO considers dangerous to one's health. About 1 million people in Russia have been diagnosed with HIV or AIDS, according to WHO estimates. Using mid-year figures, it's estimated that 25 percent more new HIV/AIDS cases will be recorded this year than were logged in 2007. And none of this is likely to get better any time soon. Peter Piot, the head of UNAIDS, the U.N. agency created in response to the epidemic, told a press conference this summer that he is "very pessimistic about what is going on in Russia and Eastern Europe . . . where there is the least progress." This should be all the more worrisome because young people are most at risk in Russia. In the United States and Western Europe, 70 percent of those with HIV/AIDS are men over age 30; in Russia, 80 percent of this group are aged 15 to 29. And although injected-drug users represent about 65 percent of Russia's cases, the country has officially rejected methadone as a treatment, even though it would likely reduce the potential for HIV infections that lead to AIDS. And then there's tuberculosis –– remember tuberculosis? In the United States, with a population of 303 million, 650 people died of the disease in 2007. In Russia, which has a total of 142 million people, an astonishing 24,000 of them died of tuberculosis in 2007. Can it possibly be coincidental that, according to Gennady Onishchenko, the country's chief public health physician, only 9 percent of Russian TB hospitals meet current hygienic standards, 21 percent lack either hot or cold running water, 11 percent lack a sewer system, and 20 percent have a shortage of TB drugs? Hardly. On the other end of the lifeline, the news isn't much better. Russia's birth rate has been declining for more than a decade, and even a recent increase in births will be limited by the fact that the number of women age 20 to 29 (those responsible for two-thirds of all babies) will drop markedly in the next four or five years to mirror the 50 percent drop in the birth rate in the late 1980s and the 1990s. And, sadly, the health of Russia's newborns is quite poor, with about 70 percent of them experiencing complications at birth. Last summer, Piot of UNAIDS said that bringing Russia's HIV/AIDS epidemic under control was "a matter of political leadership and of changing the policy." He might just as well have been talking about the much larger public health crisis that threatens this vast country. But the policies seem unlikely to change as the bear lumbers along, driven by disastrously misplaced priorities and the blindingly unrealistic expectations of a resentment-driven political leadership. Moscow remains bent on ignoring the devastating truth: The nation is not just sick but dying. |
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Russia and China have really been feeling their oats lately.
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Don't mistake one good day of weather for a long term trend. If Russia doesn't pull its head out of its ass, it is history. Demographics is destiny.gger of the strong. Ah, the old 'demographics will destroy Russia' argument… Well maybe in 50-100 years, but in the meantime… Russian Defence Spending Soars… [/quote] Britan and Europe would do well to worry about their demographic trends. They are not rosy. Yeah! Russia bought a new tank! Defense spending soared! You realise, when you are at rock bottom, just about any improvement is a soaring one. Let me know when they don't need their ships towed back to port anymore. If Russia wants to challenge the west, it will have no one but itself to blame when Sibera become a Chinese province. |
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as stated in the memo....they now need to analyze this war game and start planning for it or around parts of it...dont sit around and bitch....obvious they want to use nukes, and take out resources
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Why is simulated in quotes? Are you implying that Russia actually nuked Poland?
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Thanks Obama for abandoning Poland. You see how well "appeasement" works.
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13,000 troop Joint Op?
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If Russia wants to challenge the west, it will have no one but itself to blame when Sibera become a Chinese province. You haven't been paying attention, have you? Russia doesn't need to 'challenge' the West, it just needs enough forces to make it's former satellites behave in a manner of it's preference. The US will and can do nothing, Russia's Strategic Rocket Forces checkmate any ideas of direct action in Europe by a US president. Remember back during the Georgia conflict when you lot were all predicting the Russians would be frozen out of NATO and economically isolated? And what actually happened? NATO, the EU and the US sulked for a few months then returned to business as normal with Russia. |
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If Russia wants to challenge the west, it will have no one but itself to blame when Sibera become a Chinese province. You haven't been paying attention, have you? Russia doesn't need to 'challenge' the West, it just needs enough forces to make it's former satellites behave in a manner of it's preference. The US will and can do nothing, Russia's Strategic Rocket Forces checkmate any ideas of direct action in Europe by a US president. Remember back during the Georgia conflict when you lot were all predicting the Russians would be frozen out of NATO and economically isolated? And what actually happened? NATO, the EU and the US sulked for a few months then returned to business as normal with Russia. I hope the Russians stick in hard and break it off when it comes to Europe and the EU countries. Fucking deserve what they get. |
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If Russia wants to challenge the west, it will have no one but itself to blame when Sibera become a Chinese province. You haven't been paying attention, have you? Russia doesn't need to 'challenge' the West, it just needs enough forces to make it's former satellites behave in a manner of it's preference. The US will and can do nothing, Russia's Strategic Rocket Forces checkmate any ideas of direct action in Europe by a US president. Remember back during the Georgia conflict when you lot were all predicting the Russians would be frozen out of NATO and economically isolated? And what actually happened? NATO, the EU and the US sulked for a few months then returned to business as normal with Russia. I hope the Russians stick in hard and break it off when it comes to Europe and the EU countries. Fucking deserve what they get. The Russians have the EU over an oil barrel… unless someone finds a huge lake of oil and gas under central Europe, Russian Oil keep Europe warm and their diners cooked. |
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If Russia wants to challenge the west, it will have no one but itself to blame when Sibera become a Chinese province. You haven't been paying attention, have you? Russia doesn't need to 'challenge' the West, it just needs enough forces to make it's former satellites behave in a manner of it's preference. The US will and can do nothing, Russia's Strategic Rocket Forces checkmate any ideas of direct action in Europe by a US president. Remember back during the Georgia conflict when you lot were all predicting the Russians would be frozen out of NATO and economically isolated? And what actually happened? NATO, the EU and the US sulked for a few months then returned to business as normal with Russia. I hope the Russians stick in hard and break it off when it comes to Europe and the EU countries. Fucking deserve what they get. The Russians have the EU over an oil barrel… unless someone finds a huge lake of oil and gas under central Europe, Russian Oil keep Europe warm and their diners cooked. That's bottom line now in Europe. If things continue the way they are going the US, it might not be to far into the future when WESTERN Europe finds itself under the Russian Strategic Umbrella, not the American one. There will be a huge shift in the balance of power and ideologies in Europe in the coming years. The massive Russian oil and gas reserves give them carte blanche in Europe. Let's be honest none of the Europeans will stand up to the Russians. Interesting times we live in ladies and gents. I like the new avatar BTW. |
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Putin is like a billionaire James Bond. You know how when you watch a movie, and you feel guilty for rooting for the bad guy?
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I remember when I said something along the lines of "fuck Russia" (not those words, but that was the point) in one of my college classes. The teacher told me that I have a biased view against Russia because of US propaganda films that were used during the cold war.
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If Russia wants to challenge the west, it will have no one but itself to blame when Sibera become a Chinese province. You haven't been paying attention, have you? Russia doesn't need to 'challenge' the West, it just needs enough forces to make it's former satellites behave in a manner of it's preference. The US will and can do nothing, Russia's Strategic Rocket Forces checkmate any ideas of direct action in Europe by a US president. Remember back during the Georgia conflict when you lot were all predicting the Russians would be frozen out of NATO and economically isolated? And what actually happened? NATO, the EU and the US sulked for a few months then returned to business as normal with Russia. To be fair that's because Russia has Europe by the natural gas balls. |
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If we had a President with any cojones, now would be a good time to announce our intentions to install that missle defense network in Poland, and build a base there........alas, we dont have anyone in office except The Joker
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Dear Russia, Let me give you some sage advice. Grow the fuck up, get the fuck over it, forget these childish games and worry about your eastern frontier. Sincerely, Heavy Metal http://marcvallee.files.wordpress.com/2007/12/platon_putin1.jpg VLAD PUTIN will be back in 2012 and can run for 12 years He never left. |
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If Russia wants to challenge the west, it will have no one but itself to blame when Sibera become a Chinese province. You haven't been paying attention, have you? Russia doesn't need to 'challenge' the West, it just needs enough forces to make it's former satellites behave in a manner of it's preference. The US will and can do nothing, Russia's Strategic Rocket Forces checkmate any ideas of direct action in Europe by a US president. Remember back during the Georgia conflict when you lot were all predicting the Russians would be frozen out of NATO and economically isolated? And what actually happened? NATO, the EU and the US sulked for a few months then returned to business as normal with Russia. To be fair that's because Russia has Europe by the natural gas balls. Exactly, and that dependence is only going to get greater… |
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If Russia wants to challenge the west, it will have no one but itself to blame when Sibera become a Chinese province. You haven't been paying attention, have you? Russia doesn't need to 'challenge' the West, it just needs enough forces to make it's former satellites behave in a manner of it's preference. The US will and can do nothing, Russia's Strategic Rocket Forces checkmate any ideas of direct action in Europe by a US president. Remember back during the Georgia conflict when you lot were all predicting the Russians would be frozen out of NATO and economically isolated? And what actually happened? NATO, the EU and the US sulked for a few months then returned to business as normal with Russia. I hope the Russians stick in hard and break it off when it comes to Europe and the EU countries. Fucking deserve what they get. The Russians have the EU over an oil barrel… unless someone finds a huge lake of oil and gas under central Europe, Russian Oil keep Europe warm and their diners cooked. That's bottom line now in Europe. If things continue the way they are going the US, it might not be to far into the future when WESTERN Europe finds itself under the Russian Strategic Umbrella, not the American one. There will be a huge shift in the balance of power and ideologies in Europe in the coming years. The massive Russian oil and gas reserves give them carte blanche in Europe. Let's be honest none of the Europeans will stand up to the Russians. Interesting times we live in ladies and gents. I like the new avatar BTW. I bet the EUroweenies will love us again when the Russians are kicking up their heels in Berlin once more. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Russia and China have really been feeling their oats lately. And why not, the U.S.A. ain't in any position to oppose them. China feels its oats may be bad for us, but it could be really bad for Russia. I really don't know why it seems like Russia doesn't notice that but would rather fuck around in Eastern Europe. Pining for the old days I guess. China would probably invade Siberia long before they started a shooting war with us. We BUY their shit in huge amounts. You don't starts wars that aren't in your economic interest (or at least you shouldn't). Why fight us when they can, well, own us anyway |
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If Russia wants to challenge the west, it will have no one but itself to blame when Sibera become a Chinese province. You haven't been paying attention, have you? Russia doesn't need to 'challenge' the West, it just needs enough forces to make it's former satellites behave in a manner of it's preference. The US will and can do nothing, Russia's Strategic Rocket Forces checkmate any ideas of direct action in Europe by a US president. Remember back during the Georgia conflict when you lot were all predicting the Russians would be frozen out of NATO and economically isolated? And what actually happened? NATO, the EU and the US sulked for a few months then returned to business as normal with Russia. I hope the Russians stick in hard and break it off when it comes to Europe and the EU countries. Fucking deserve what they get. The Russians have the EU over an oil barrel… unless someone finds a huge lake of oil and gas under central Europe, Russian Oil keep Europe warm and their diners cooked. That's bottom line now in Europe. If things continue the way they are going the US, it might not be to far into the future when WESTERN Europe finds itself under the Russian Strategic Umbrella, not the American one. There will be a huge shift in the balance of power and ideologies in Europe in the coming years. The massive Russian oil and gas reserves give them carte blanche in Europe. Let's be honest none of the Europeans will stand up to the Russians. Interesting times we live in ladies and gents. I like the new avatar BTW. I bet the EUroweenies will love us again when the Russians are kicking up their heels in Berlin once more. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Angela Merkel, the German Chancellor, was a member of the Communist Party in the old East Germany before the wall came down, she's also a fluent Russian speaker. |
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If Russia wants to challenge the west, it will have no one but itself to blame when Sibera become a Chinese province. You haven't been paying attention, have you? Russia doesn't need to 'challenge' the West, it just needs enough forces to make it's former satellites behave in a manner of it's preference. The US will and can do nothing, Russia's Strategic Rocket Forces checkmate any ideas of direct action in Europe by a US president. Remember back during the Georgia conflict when you lot were all predicting the Russians would be frozen out of NATO and economically isolated? And what actually happened? NATO, the EU and the US sulked for a few months then returned to business as normal with Russia. I hope the Russians stick in hard and break it off when it comes to Europe and the EU countries. Fucking deserve what they get. http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll111/AKSig/fuckyou.jpg Poland was by the side of the US from the start in the WOT. Right back at you. The Poles have my sympathies, same as the rest of the old Eastern Block. I am addressing the Western Europeans fucktards who always piss and moan about the US. The ones that protested our mil policies when Reagan was telling the Commie Fossils from the CCCP to get bent. Maybe this time when the Russian Bear get ready to rape them, and Obama has nothing but apologies for US arrogance, they will remember the good old days when that senile actor was around or maybe the Texas cowboy. They will probably be HOPING for a CHANGE in a few years. |
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If Russia wants to challenge the west, it will have no one but itself to blame when Sibera become a Chinese province. You haven't been paying attention, have you? Russia doesn't need to 'challenge' the West, it just needs enough forces to make it's former satellites behave in a manner of it's preference. The US will and can do nothing, Russia's Strategic Rocket Forces checkmate any ideas of direct action in Europe by a US president. Remember back during the Georgia conflict when you lot were all predicting the Russians would be frozen out of NATO and economically isolated? And what actually happened? NATO, the EU and the US sulked for a few months then returned to business as normal with Russia. I hope the Russians stick in hard and break it off when it comes to Europe and the EU countries. Fucking deserve what they get. The Russians have the EU over an oil barrel… unless someone finds a huge lake of oil and gas under central Europe, Russian Oil keep Europe warm and their diners cooked. This/ thread complete thanks for playing......................... |
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If Russia wants to challenge the west, it will have no one but itself to blame when Sibera become a Chinese province. You haven't been paying attention, have you? Russia doesn't need to 'challenge' the West, it just needs enough forces to make it's former satellites behave in a manner of it's preference. The US will and can do nothing, Russia's Strategic Rocket Forces checkmate any ideas of direct action in Europe by a US president. Remember back during the Georgia conflict when you lot were all predicting the Russians would be frozen out of NATO and economically isolated? And what actually happened? NATO, the EU and the US sulked for a few months then returned to business as normal with Russia. I hope the Russians stick in hard and break it off when it comes to Europe and the EU countries. Fucking deserve what they get. The Russians have the EU over an oil barrel… unless someone finds a huge lake of oil and gas under central Europe, Russian Oil keep Europe warm and their diners cooked. This/ thread complete thanks for playing......................... People said the same thing about the US in the early 1970s...the Arabs would dictate US policy, end of US hegamony, etc. Diversification FTW. The problem the Russians will have is keeping from pushing their advantage, like the Arabs did in the early 1970s. After Yom Kippur, the Arabs discovered that 1) Golden Geese can be choked to death 2) Leverage works both ways and 3) Oil is fungible. While the Russians will maintain significant competitive advantage, its far from absolute. |
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If Russia wants to challenge the west, it will have no one but itself to blame when Sibera become a Chinese province. You haven't been paying attention, have you? Russia doesn't need to 'challenge' the West, it just needs enough forces to make it's former satellites behave in a manner of it's preference. The US will and can do nothing, Russia's Strategic Rocket Forces checkmate any ideas of direct action in Europe by a US president. Remember back during the Georgia conflict when you lot were all predicting the Russians would be frozen out of NATO and economically isolated? And what actually happened? NATO, the EU and the US sulked for a few months then returned to business as normal with Russia. I hope the Russians stick in hard and break it off when it comes to Europe and the EU countries. Fucking deserve what they get. http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll111/AKSig/fuckyou.jpg Poland was by the side of the US from the start in the WOT. Right back at you. The Poles have my sympathies, same as the rest of the old Eastern Block. I am addressing the Western Europeans fucktards who always piss and moan about the US. The ones that protested our mil policies when Reagan was telling the Commie Fossils from the CCCP to get bent. Maybe this time when the Russian Bear get ready to rape them, and Obama has nothing but apologies for US arrogance, they will remember the good old days when that senile actor was around or maybe the Texas cowboy. They will probably be HOPING for a CHANGE in a few years. Well said m8... |
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