http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2009/oct/31/missing-gop-ballots-counted-in-nev-after-months/


Missing GOP ballots counted in Nev. after months

The Associated Press

Saturday, Oct. 31, 2009 | 3:57 p.m.

Eighteen months later, Nevada Republicans have completed a count of all delegate ballots from last year's state convention.

A group of disaffected Republicans says it feels vindicated after a Friday night count of missing ballots from the April 2008 gathering showed three delegates for U.S. Rep. Ron Paul should have been sent to the national convention.

Paul supporters said they felt party leaders cheated them out of a place at the national convention when they abruptly recessed the convention before delegate ballots from the state's 2nd Congressional District could be counted. The district was allowed to choose three of the state's 34 delegates to the national convention.

The convention in Reno ended after Paul supporters won a rule change that allowed them to vote Paul delegates to the convention.

"It's good to get it done," said Wayne Terhune, a Paul supporter. "It's nice to be vindicated. The fact the three Ron Paul people won indicates that might have been the reason they shut down the convention."

Party leaders say the count will have no impact on the state's role in nominating U.S. Sen. John McCain as the party's presidential nominee last year.

But they said they hope it brings closure to Paul supporters and others who had pressed for the count.

"This should have been done a long time ago," said Nancy Ernaut, state party chairwoman.

About 25 Republicans gathered at the party's Washoe County headquarters to count ballots that had spent the last 18 months locked in a casino cashier cage at the Peppermill, where the convention was held.

The count showed Paul delegate Robert Terhune won the most votes in the 2nd Congressional District, with 288. Paul supporters Marla Criss and Pat Kerby had 283 votes each.

Controversy over the state convention prompted Paul supporters to later hold an insurgent state convention, where Paul won most of the national convention delegates.

A Nevada GOP committee appointed another delegation, mostly prominent party regulars and contributors.

A key Republican National Committee panel then recommended a compromise list of delegates and said it was troubled by the "ineptness" of the Nevada GOP.

Paul supporters blame then-state GOP Chairwoman Sue Lowden for the state convention flap and hope to make it an issue in the U.S. Senate race.

Lowden is one of about a dozen Republicans vying for the seat held by Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev.

Don't take this wrong but, who the f**k cares???

What the Nevada GOP did was wrong and stupid, but it wouldn't have made any difference in the end result had the delegates been able to go.

obviously Paul supporters

Right.  Idiots.

Seems as if many here would prefer Obama over Paul should that have been the choices.

Obama has better policies towards the military.

What has he done, since his inauguration, what has been beneficial to the military?

Also, based on your statement, due to his excellent military stance, you also accept his economic and social policies?

I'd rather not have either, but between the two better to go with the mentally stable crook than the loonie with the  propellor beanie.

Ron Paul has stated that he wants to cut the military by 80% if possible, but at the very least, stop projecting power.  

Obama hasn't stated a desire to do that.  Being fair, that means Nobama has better policies towards the .mil.  

Did I ever say he had an excellent military stance?  Sure didn't. But RP supporters due tend to be full of shit and lie a lot when discussing him, so I don't expect to see another person being intellectually dishonest about it.

And no, I don't like Obama's policies.

Perhaps the larger point is that election irregularities and outright fraud are here, rarely covered by our fawning press, and cast doubt on the validity of election results.

After the bang-up job ACORN did for Osama, has it not at least crossed your mind that he may have not won the election properly? How about some of the tight state elections going on? How about the Franken snafu?

A little bit of fraud can go along way.

The possibilities are endless.

Amazing, just in this thread, the people that will support a Marxist over a Constitutionalist just due to their stance on the Military.

No wonder this country is falling fast.

This should still piss every one off no matter who they support. I is a perfect example
that things are going down the tubes and we have little control to stop it.

Sure it would have made a difference.  Those voters would have been represented.

Sure, RP didn't stand a chance.  But there are election rules and they need to be followed.

Who the fuck cares?  People who believe in right and wrong.  That's who the fuck cares.

All you "The world is shades of grey" people are killing this country.

Luckypunk still owes me $50.

No one said they supported Obama. I just stated a simple fact, that in at least some ways, Obama is better than RP.  Though it didn't really matter, RP had, and has about zero chance of ever holding the white house.

What good is projecting power if you aren't going to use it?

I mean, really... How long have we had troops in Afghanistan?  And what is the situation there??

It's a waste of national resources to half ass a war that we are going to pull out of and leave the country in the same place as when we invaded.

But at least they get to "have their war" lol.

+1

The whole process is broken, and borderline on being "fixed".   Between stories like this, and ACORN, I mean, how can we have any hope of a fair election anymore?

I have my doubts about turning this ship around.

Ron Paul supporters tend to be liars, are you shocked he didn't pay?

We are using our soldiers overseas, and not just in Afghanistan. And the simple, easy proof of that, is that we haven't been attacked since. Bush's policies of intervention KEPT US SAFE, yet RP supporters love to preach that he's a non interventionalist.  Somehow, I don't think we will be quite as safe if the terrorists are sitting around over there bored.

We haven't been attacked since what 9/11?

Are you fucking serious?  You've been sniffing too much diesel fumes old man.  Just in Dallas, they popped a guy for parking a large car bomb in the basement garage of a 60 story skyscraper.  He hit the detonate button on his cell phone but instead of "kaboom!"  he got the FBI "May I help you, sir?"

What about the attacks at the Army recruiting centers?

What about the OSU suicide bomber?

What about all the other isolated incidents?

ALL muslims.  ALL attacking Americans.  ALL HERE.

ETA:  The Fort Dix attack cell, and those guys they busted in PA... FBI had surveillance set up on a public shooting range in a forest...  The list goes on and on!

Another symptom of the internal power struggle  in the GOP.  Status quo RINO's versus those who really value freedom and liberty who continue to search for a suitable home.



Over the next two years the Republican establishment will learn a valuable lesson, better not piss off us libertarian/conservatives if  you want to win again.

 

You had lone idiots, no organized attack from AQ.

Ok.

I said tend to be, meaning not all.

Then?  Yes.   But now?  No.  I wouldn't have accepted the bet if I thought he was a welcher.

........dt........

So if it's not Al Qaeda it doesn't count.  Got it.



 

Ron Paul's ideas scares most people in this country.


Our country is pussified .

Even  many members here.

Personal responsibilty is a scary thing. People think they want it but when  offered most back away.

+1.

Keep in mind that harry reid is laughing his ass off right now at the ineptness of the Nevada State republican party.  THAT'S his competition for his upcoming re-election, and they are messed up.  He's back in for several more years unless the state GOP party bosses start listening to their constituents instead of running things "chicago-style".

Also, HUGE +1 for Nationwide's post above.

-Gator

You can't blame the attacks of lone or tiny unaffiliated groups on the president. If some arfcommer were to go shoot up a mall, could you blame Obama? well hell no, no more than you can blame Bush because some jackass prison convert shoots up a recruiting off.  AQ on the other hand, is a large group that we've stopped.  I'm not a Bush fan at all, but he deserves some credit for stopping them.

*adds more reasons to the list*

Unaffiliated?

Hmm... there seems to be a VERY common trait here among those who would do harm to American's IN America.

ALL muslim  ALL have trained outside the US...

sorry guys I would have taken Zero over bat shit crazy.
the only reason he had any support was he wanted to legalize pot.

Sure about that?

Besides, one need not be AQ to get training by any of dozens of other terrorist groups outside the U.S.

For me, Ron Paul is like Sarah Palin to some of you guys.

He has some ideas I like and others I do not but in the end he has no charisma, he can't win.

Palin on the other hand.......

Some of you get it.  Most don't.  This has nothing to do with RP's stances on the issues, and everything to do with the GOP breaking its own rules on how candidates are nominated in order to ensure a specific outcome.

If heads don't roll over this, then the next time it happens will be in a close race between a RINO and a conservative, where three delegate votes could very well decide the outcome.

^this.

Fraud is fraud; whether the Democrats are doing it or the Republicans. If we're going to take the higher moral stand, we must uphold those morals, or we might as well be ACORN.

No shit,



Most of these fat pieces of shit probably never have served either.



Ron Paul had plenty of support in the military. He had the most donations of any candidate during the primaries and actually served as an officer.



He has never said he wanted to cut the military by 80%. Please show me a source of this.



 

Our voting system has been molested, raped and murdered.  

Back this up with proof. Show us where Ron Paul proposed an 80% reduction in the military. Show instances of Ron Paul supporters lying.
You won't because you can't.

Oh look, a Paulite using a strawman argument. I'm shocked.

STOP THE PRESSES!!11!

There was an interview about gold where some company published a transcript that Ron Paul said he thought military SPENDING could be cut by up to 80%.  The fredheads took that and kept claiming that Ron Paul was going to do away with 80% of the military.

The main thing it shows is that Sue Lowden is incompetent and shouldn't be the republican candidate to go up against Reid.  That's kind of what I had believed before, but this is just more info to back that position up.

Everyone that votes should care, when the party does as it damned pleases in spite of the votes, why bother voting?

You should. Try to pull your partisan head out of your ass and realize you're being cheated and lied to, even by your beloved republicans.

Voter fraud and corruption are as dangerous to our liberty as the socialists.

Oh, I don't know.  Perhaps it shows the system is not working correctly?

Ron Paul is a dick and a moron.

Very much, this.  I personally did not, and do not, like Ron Paul.  That said, this story indicates a real problem.