User Panel
User Panel
User Panel
|
Posted: 10/30/2009 2:34:34 PM EDT
This is probably a dupe but i did search back 3 months and didnt see it.
 For Good Measure |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/30/2009 3:09:52 PM EDT
[#1]
Yeah that was like last week.
|
|
|
|
Posted: 10/30/2009 3:34:27 PM EDT
[#2]
Obviously rigged.
|
|
|
|
Posted: 10/30/2009 3:40:44 PM EDT
[#3]
I like the AK just as much as the next AK fanboy, but it isn't as impervious to dirt and dust as some of them say, and the AR isn't as susceptible to dirt and dust as some of the haters like to insist.
|
|
|
|
Posted: 10/30/2009 3:48:24 PM EDT
[#4]
Holy cow that guy shoveled alot of dirt on his AR and it still worked
|
|
|
|
Posted: 10/30/2009 3:48:38 PM EDT
[#5]
Oh wait a minute, according to YT commenters that AK jammed because its .223, that wasn't a real AK. This test was rigged. (Insert more AK fanboy excuses) And guys in Iraq get their AKs dirty and let them rust up for the hell of it. I want to fucking rip my monitor off my desk and throw it through my window sometimes.
|
|
|
|
Posted: 10/30/2009 3:54:48 PM EDT
[#6]
H&K told us that was unpossible!!
|
|
|
|
Posted: 10/30/2009 3:56:40 PM EDT
[#7]
That should make Russel very popular
 |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/30/2009 3:58:34 PM EDT
[#8]
Quoted:
Oh wait a minute, according to YT commenters that AK jammed because its .223, that wasn't a real AK. This test was rigged. (Insert more AK fanboy excuses) And guys in Iraq get their AKs dirty and let them rust up for the hell of it. I want to fucking rip my monitor off my desk and throw it through my window sometimes. I think it jammed because it got a lot of dirt inside it. HK416 > M4 |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/30/2009 4:01:41 PM EDT
[#9]
Put pebbles in the FCG and the gun doesn't want to work... Gee, I wonder what happened!
|
|
|
|
Posted: 10/30/2009 4:04:36 PM EDT
[#10]
Quoted:
I like the AK just as much as the next AK fanboy, but it isn't as impervious to dirt and dust as some of them say, and the AR isn't as susceptible to dirt and dust as some of the haters like to insist. The test looks impressive to the uninformed viewer, but it isn't anything special. |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/30/2009 4:07:49 PM EDT
[#11]
Quoted:
Quoted:
I like the AK just as much as the next AK fanboy, but it isn't as impervious to dirt and dust as some of them say, and the AR isn't as susceptible to dirt and dust as some of the haters like to insist. The test looks impressive to the uninformed viewer, but it isn't anything special. That AR had a lot of dirt put on it, then just a quick shake to get the most of it off and it still worked. How is that not impressive? |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/30/2009 4:12:14 PM EDT
[#12]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
I like the AK just as much as the next AK fanboy, but it isn't as impervious to dirt and dust as some of them say, and the AR isn't as susceptible to dirt and dust as some of the haters like to insist. The test looks impressive to the uninformed viewer, but it isn't anything special. That AR had a lot of dirt put on it, then just a quick shake to get the most of it off and it still worked. How is that not impressive? All the dirt sat on top of the carrier, then fell off when he shook it. For the AK, he left the safety off, which allowed the dirt to flow in and fill the receiver. Of course it wouldn't work. |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/30/2009 4:14:26 PM EDT
[#13]
Quoted: Quoted: Oh wait a minute, according to YT commenters that AK jammed because its .223, that wasn't a real AK. This test was rigged. (Insert more AK fanboy excuses) And guys in Iraq get their AKs dirty and let them rust up for the hell of it. I want to fucking rip my monitor off my desk and throw it through my window sometimes. I think it jammed because it got a lot of dirt inside it. <a target="_blank" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjMH94PuT_I">HK416 > M4</a> I was being sarcastic. the point being, someone will find some sort of excuse to justify what they like. There are plenty vids out there of DI guns getting submerged and then shot. HK propaganda. |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/30/2009 4:14:57 PM EDT
[#14]
Good stuff
|
|
|
|
Posted: 10/30/2009 4:17:26 PM EDT
[#15]
Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I like the AK just as much as the next AK fanboy, but it isn't as impervious to dirt and dust as some of them say, and the AR isn't as susceptible to dirt and dust as some of the haters like to insist. The test looks impressive to the uninformed viewer, but it isn't anything special. That AR had a lot of dirt put on it, then just a quick shake to get the most of it off and it still worked. How is that not impressive? All the dirt sat on top of the carrier, then fell off when he shook it. For the AK, he left the safety off, which allowed the dirt to flow in and fill the receiver. Of course it wouldn't work.  The carrier was fully retracted and held open when he was dumping dirt on the rifle. It wasn't closed, nor was the dust cover closed. |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/30/2009 4:21:23 PM EDT
[#16]
Quoted:
The carrier was fully retracted and held open when he was dumping dirt on the rifle. It wasn't closed, nor was the dust cover closed. Are you talking about around the 3min mark? If so, it got me the first time, too, but he closes the bolt right after inserting the mag. |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/30/2009 4:25:00 PM EDT
[#17]
Quoted: Quoted: The carrier was fully retracted and held open when he was dumping dirt on the rifle. It wasn't closed, nor was the dust cover closed. Are you talking about around the 3min mark? If so, it got me the first time, too, but he closes the bolt right after inserting the mag. It's impossible to fire a round through the AR without the bolt closed...... He opened the bolt and had the bolt-hold engaged to hold it open. Dumped the sand on the weapon, picked it up, shook most of the sand out, put in a mag, closed the bolt, and then fired. |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/30/2009 4:26:34 PM EDT
[#18]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
I like the AK just as much as the next AK fanboy, but it isn't as impervious to dirt and dust as some of them say, and the AR isn't as susceptible to dirt and dust as some of the haters like to insist. The test looks impressive to the uninformed viewer, but it isn't anything special. That AR had a lot of dirt put on it, then just a quick shake to get the most of it off and it still worked. How is that not impressive? All the dirt sat on top of the carrier, then fell off when he shook it. For the AK, he left the safety off, which allowed the dirt to flow in and fill the receiver. Of course it wouldn't work. Seems like a design flaw in the AK to me. Open dust cover allows debris access to the FCG. This is one area where Stoner got it right, and Kalishnikof (?SP?) clearly got it wrong. |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/30/2009 4:27:46 PM EDT
[#19]
It was called on another website,
I could say more but they have to much of a following here 
|
|
|
|
Posted: 10/30/2009 4:29:01 PM EDT
[#20]
but but but, thats only possible with a piston AR
|
|
|
|
Posted: 10/30/2009 4:32:06 PM EDT
[#21]
Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I like the AK just as much as the next AK fanboy, but it isn't as impervious to dirt and dust as some of them say, and the AR isn't as susceptible to dirt and dust as some of the haters like to insist. The test looks impressive to the uninformed viewer, but it isn't anything special. That AR had a lot of dirt put on it, then just a quick shake to get the most of it off and it still worked. How is that not impressive? All the dirt sat on top of the carrier, then fell off when he shook it. For the AK, he left the safety off, which allowed the dirt to flow in and fill the receiver. Of course it wouldn't work. Design flaw, not test flaw. |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/30/2009 4:39:18 PM EDT
[#22]
Quoted:
He opened the bolt and had the bolt-hold engaged to hold it open. Dumped the sand on the weapon, picked it up, shook most of the sand out, put in a mag, closed the bolt, and then fired. What was the time in the vid that he did this?
|
|
|
|
Posted: 10/30/2009 4:40:30 PM EDT
[#23]
Quoted:
Design flaw, not test flaw. Ok 
|
|
|
|
Posted: 10/30/2009 4:43:58 PM EDT
[#24]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
I like the AK just as much as the next AK fanboy, but it isn't as impervious to dirt and dust as some of them say, and the AR isn't as susceptible to dirt and dust as some of the haters like to insist. The test looks impressive to the uninformed viewer, but it isn't anything special. That AR had a lot of dirt put on it, then just a quick shake to get the most of it off and it still worked. How is that not impressive? All the dirt sat on top of the carrier, then fell off when he shook it. For the AK, he left the safety off, which allowed the dirt to flow in and fill the receiver. Of course it wouldn't work. It really isn't a fair test. Close the AR and leave the AK open. Also what I've noticed when most people do a AR/AK test they use a top quality AR, and a crappy WASR or SAR for the AK. I have done multiple tests with AK and had them work. They aren't as bad as the video makes it appear |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/30/2009 4:50:36 PM EDT
[#25]
Quoted: Oh wait a minute, according to YT commenters that AK jammed because its .223, that wasn't a real AK. This test was rigged. (Insert more AK fanboy excuses) And guys in Iraq get their AKs dirty and let them rust up for the hell of it. I want to fucking rip my monitor off my desk and throw it through my window sometimes. Someone already bitched about it being 223 and there is a new video with a AK74 5.45 being tested. Of course someone else is goona bitch that it's not a AK 7.62. And then someone after that is goona bitch that it's not using '50s ammo. And then someone after that is gonna bitch that it's a Romanian not a XXXX. and then someone after... EDIT: AK74 test |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/30/2009 4:52:19 PM EDT
[#26]
Quoted: Quoted: Oh wait a minute, according to YT commenters that AK jammed because its .223, that wasn't a real AK. This test was rigged. (Insert more AK fanboy excuses) And guys in Iraq get their AKs dirty and let them rust up for the hell of it. I want to fucking rip my monitor off my desk and throw it through my window sometimes. Someone already bitched about it being 223 and there is a new video with a AK74 5.45 being tested. Of course someone else is goona bitch that it's not a AK 7.62. And then someone after that is goona bitch that it's not using '50s ammo. And then someone after that is gonna bitch that it's a Romanian not a XXXX. and then someone after... Hahaha. Yeah I saw that test. The AK74 failed it too. And the AK74 had some heavy R&D put into it by the Soviets to make sure it was just as reliable as the AK47, so the argument that failed because it aint an AK47 wont work either. |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/30/2009 5:01:01 PM EDT
[#27]
Quoted:
Quoted:
He opened the bolt and had the bolt-hold engaged to hold it open. Dumped the sand on the weapon, picked it up, shook most of the sand out, put in a mag, closed the bolt, and then fired. What was the time in the vid that he did this?
Well? |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/30/2009 5:09:39 PM EDT
[#28]
So much for the AK being unstoppable.
The funny thing was when I was in the Marine Corps, I never had any jams when I used a mag that wasn't one of thos old black follower POS types. In Iraq I had ZERO jams. 
|
|
|
|
Posted: 10/30/2009 5:12:32 PM EDT
[#29]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
He opened the bolt and had the bolt-hold engaged to hold it open. Dumped the sand on the weapon, picked it up, shook most of the sand out, put in a mag, closed the bolt, and then fired. What was the time in the vid that he did this?
Well? It looked like he closed the bolt every time to me, but that means nothing. How much time is ever spent with the bolt back on an AR? |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/30/2009 5:16:05 PM EDT
[#30]
Quoted:
How much time is ever spent with the bolt back on an AR? None. It would have been BS, which is probably why he didn't do it. I just want ArmyInfantryVet to acknowledge that he is that someone who is wrong on the internet.
|
|
|
|
Posted: 10/30/2009 5:18:54 PM EDT
[#31]
Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: He opened the bolt and had the bolt-hold engaged to hold it open. Dumped the sand on the weapon, picked it up, shook most of the sand out, put in a mag, closed the bolt, and then fired. What was the time in the vid that he did this? Well? that means nothing. How much time is ever spent with the bolt back on an AR? +1 VERY GOOD POINT. |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/30/2009 5:23:33 PM EDT
[#32]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
I like the AK just as much as the next AK fanboy, but it isn't as impervious to dirt and dust as some of them say, and the AR isn't as susceptible to dirt and dust as some of the haters like to insist. The test looks impressive to the uninformed viewer, but it isn't anything special. That AR had a lot of dirt put on it, then just a quick shake to get the most of it off and it still worked. How is that not impressive? All the dirt sat on top of the carrier, then fell off when he shook it. For the AK, he left the safety off, which allowed the dirt to flow in and fill the receiver. Of course it wouldn't work.
The carrier was fully retracted and held open when he was dumping dirt on the rifle. It wasn't closed, nor was the dust cover closed. Fail. |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/30/2009 5:24:31 PM EDT
[#33]
Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I like the AK just as much as the next AK fanboy, but it isn't as impervious to dirt and dust as some of them say, and the AR isn't as susceptible to dirt and dust as some of the haters like to insist. The test looks impressive to the uninformed viewer, but it isn't anything special. That AR had a lot of dirt put on it, then just a quick shake to get the most of it off and it still worked. How is that not impressive? All the dirt sat on top of the carrier, then fell off when he shook it. For the AK, he left the safety off, which allowed the dirt to flow in and fill the receiver. Of course it wouldn't work. The carrier was fully retracted and held open when he was dumping dirt on the rifle. It wasn't closed, nor was the dust cover closed. Fail. So, sue me |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/30/2009 5:25:25 PM EDT
[#34]
Ha! I win.
|
|
|
|
Posted: 10/30/2009 5:32:16 PM EDT
[#35]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Oh wait a minute, according to YT commenters that AK jammed because its .223, that wasn't a real AK. This test was rigged. (Insert more AK fanboy excuses) And guys in Iraq get their AKs dirty and let them rust up for the hell of it. I want to fucking rip my monitor off my desk and throw it through my window sometimes. Someone already bitched about it being 223 and there is a new video with a AK74 5.45 being tested. Of course someone else is goona bitch that it's not a AK 7.62. And then someone after that is goona bitch that it's not using '50s ammo. And then someone after that is gonna bitch that it's a Romanian not a XXXX. and then someone after... EDIT: AK74 test  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRRUuXyspT0
I would like to see a Non-Cav arms test.............. |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/30/2009 5:43:16 PM EDT
[#36]
Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Oh wait a minute, according to YT commenters that AK jammed because its .223, that wasn't a real AK. This test was rigged. (Insert more AK fanboy excuses) And guys in Iraq get their AKs dirty and let them rust up for the hell of it. I want to fucking rip my monitor off my desk and throw it through my window sometimes. Someone already bitched about it being 223 and there is a new video with a AK74 5.45 being tested. Of course someone else is goona bitch that it's not a AK 7.62. And then someone after that is goona bitch that it's not using '50s ammo. And then someone after that is gonna bitch that it's a Romanian not a XXXX. and then someone after... EDIT: AK74 test http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRRUuXyspT0I would like to see a Non-Cav arms test.............. Well..we're waiting. I don't see anything wrong with the way he's doing those tests. |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/30/2009 5:55:01 PM EDT
[#37]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sbe4maIL0A0
There it is the end all be all of tests! Oh noes! Look just decide what gun is best for you because it alwas depends on who is doing the testing. |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/30/2009 6:05:37 PM EDT
[#38]
Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Oh wait a minute, according to YT commenters that AK jammed because its .223, that wasn't a real AK. This test was rigged. (Insert more AK fanboy excuses) And guys in Iraq get their AKs dirty and let them rust up for the hell of it. I want to fucking rip my monitor off my desk and throw it through my window sometimes. Someone already bitched about it being 223 and there is a new video with a AK74 5.45 being tested. Of course someone else is goona bitch that it's not a AK 7.62. And then someone after that is goona bitch that it's not using '50s ammo. And then someone after that is gonna bitch that it's a Romanian not a XXXX. and then someone after... EDIT: AK74 test http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRRUuXyspT0I would like to see a Non-Cav arms test.............. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LpHkf2r_dk |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/30/2009 6:07:28 PM EDT
[#39]
Quoted: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sbe4maIL0A0 There it is the end all be all of tests! Oh noes! Look just decide what gun is best for you because it alwas depends on who is doing the testing. Some clueless dumbfuck banging away on the FA before shooting has little bearing on the quality of an AR-15. I'd wager the rest of that weapon was commensurate with his skills. |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/30/2009 6:09:30 PM EDT
[#40]
Quoted:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sbe4maIL0A0 There it is the end all be all of tests! Oh noes! Look just decide what gun is best for you because it alwas depends on who is doing the testing. You really want to hold up an no name AR in the hands of some ate up dirt shooters? I mean the extractor broke! Who the fuck made the AR? |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/30/2009 6:15:36 PM EDT
[#41]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Oh wait a minute, according to YT commenters that AK jammed because its .223, that wasn't a real AK. This test was rigged. (Insert more AK fanboy excuses) And guys in Iraq get their AKs dirty and let them rust up for the hell of it. I want to fucking rip my monitor off my desk and throw it through my window sometimes. Someone already bitched about it being 223 and there is a new video with a AK74 5.45 being tested. Of course someone else is goona bitch that it's not a AK 7.62. And then someone after that is goona bitch that it's not using '50s ammo. And then someone after that is gonna bitch that it's a Romanian not a XXXX. and then someone after... EDIT: AK74 test http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRRUuXyspT0
I would like to see a Non-Cav arms test.............. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LpHkf2r_dk I meant with a AK.
The AR-15 is a perfectly good system when it is maintained correctly |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/30/2009 6:17:22 PM EDT
[#42]
Quoted: I meant with a AK. The AR-15 is a perfectly good system when it is maintained correctly I did it with my Saiga 308 too, safety on, it malfunctioned. |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/30/2009 6:18:27 PM EDT
[#43]
Lol. See all depends on who is doing the test. Get which ever one tickles you go to Somalia and have a blast.
|
|
|
|
Posted: 10/30/2009 6:22:37 PM EDT
[#44]
Put the dust cover up on the AK, and I guarantee it fires.
|
|
|
|
Posted: 10/30/2009 6:27:21 PM EDT
[#45]
Quoted: Put the dust cover up on the AK AR, and I guarantee it fires. Oh wait, it does anyway. |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/30/2009 6:28:02 PM EDT
[#46]
wow cav arms has some nice ak mags
|
|
|
|
Posted: 10/30/2009 6:28:21 PM EDT
[#47]
Quoted: Lol. See all depends on who is doing the test. Get which ever one tickles you go to Somalia and have a blast. You seem to not understand that plenty of people in this thread have done just that (or Iraq, or Afghanistan, or all of the above). |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/30/2009 6:30:27 PM EDT
[#48]
These dirt tests are all fucking stupid anyway. None of them reflect reality. I NEVER EVER had or seen or even heard of someone's weapon falling into a pile of sand and getting all covered in sand, anyway. Hell, one time I was in the field, we spent a whole week, and my hooch was on a hill basically made of all loose sand dune kinda sand, and I NEVER had trouble keep sand out of my weapon.
It's about as dumb as doing a test between cars by seeing which one can run the longest without any oil inside the engine. Well, no one who cares at all about their vehicle is going to let their car run without oil. It's all fucking stupid and doesn't prove anything. |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/30/2009 6:33:11 PM EDT
[#49]
Quoted: These dirt tests are all fucking stupid anyway. None of them reflect reality. I NEVER EVER had or seen or even heard of someone's weapon falling into a pile of sand and getting all covered in sand, anyway. Hell, one time I was in the field, we spent a whole week, and my hooch was on a hill basically made of all loose sand dune kinda sand, and I NEVER had trouble keep sand out of my weapon. It's about as dumb as doing a test between cars by seeing which one can run the longest without any oil inside the engine. Well, no one who cares at all about their vehicle is going to let their car run without oil. It's all fucking stupid and doesn't prove anything. I had a shit ton of dirt kicked on me and my weapon once, Marine scrambling down a berm to take cover. |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/30/2009 6:34:01 PM EDT
[#50]
Quoted: Quoted: These dirt tests are all fucking stupid anyway. None of them reflect reality. I NEVER EVER had or seen or even heard of someone's weapon falling into a pile of sand and getting all covered in sand, anyway. Hell, one time I was in the field, we spent a whole week, and my hooch was on a hill basically made of all loose sand dune kinda sand, and I NEVER had trouble keep sand out of my weapon. It's about as dumb as doing a test between cars by seeing which one can run the longest without any oil inside the engine. Well, no one who cares at all about their vehicle is going to let their car run without oil. It's all fucking stupid and doesn't prove anything. I had a shit ton of dirt kicked on me and my weapon once, Marine scrambling down a berm to take cover. Haha. that had to suck |
|
|
Win a FREE Membership!
Sign up for the ARFCOM weekly newsletter and be entered to win a free ARFCOM membership. One new winner* is announced every week!
You will receive an email every Friday morning featuring the latest chatter from the hottest topics, breaking news surrounding legislation, as well as exclusive deals only available to ARFCOM email subscribers.
AR15.COM is the world's largest firearm community and is a gathering place for firearm enthusiasts of all types.
From hunters and military members, to competition shooters and general firearm enthusiasts, we welcome anyone who values and respects the way of the firearm.
Subscribe to our monthly Newsletter to receive firearm news, product discounts from your favorite Industry Partners, and more.
Copyright © 1996-2024 AR15.COM LLC. All Rights Reserved.
Any use of this content without express written consent is prohibited.
AR15.Com reserves the right to overwrite or replace any affiliate, commercial, or monetizable links, posted by users, with our own.
