Missile Defense - Interesting read from Sec Gates

[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Missile Defense - Interesting read from Sec Gates

Posted: 9/19/2009 9:41:50 PM EDT

http://www.defenselink.mil/transcripts/transcript.aspx?transcriptid=4479

Bottom line: It looks like some cheaper technologies may provide a faster way to provide some protection to Europe.

Posted: 9/19/2009 9:46:38 PM EDT

[#1]

Quoted:

http://www.defenselink.mil/transcripts/transcript.aspx?transcriptid=4479

Bottom line: It looks like some cheaper technologies may provide a faster way to provide some protection to Europe.

But no deterrance to Russian expansion...

Which is what the Poles & others are pissed about....

They wanted US bases for economic and 'tripwire' reasons...

Posted: 9/19/2009 9:57:00 PM EDT

[#2]

So bring em into NATO. Putting missiles and a radar system in eastern Europe is an expensive solution looking for a problem.

Posted: 9/19/2009 10:06:25 PM EDT

[#3]

Quoted:
So bring em into NATO.

Yes... this will really make the Ruskies happy!

Posted: 9/19/2009 10:17:18 PM EDT

[#4]

Quoted:
So bring em into NATO. Putting missiles and a radar system in eastern Europe is an expensive solution looking for a problem.

There are better options. KEI for example.

Posted: 9/20/2009 2:23:05 AM EDT

[#5]

Quoted:
So bring em into NATO. Putting missiles and a radar system in eastern Europe is an expensive solution looking for a problem.

What happened in Georgia last year?

Posted: 9/20/2009 2:30:17 AM EDT

[#6]

This sheild was more about diplomatic relations and international diplomacy than actual defense. Although that would have been useful also.

But then I'm an asshole "neo-con" that isn't a RP non interventionist.

Posted: 9/20/2009 3:28:52 AM EDT

[#7]

I don't care for how GBI and SM-3 are compared as if they are comparable. Each has their specific purpose and each have different costs involved. Of course a GBI will cost more...

People who don't know the difference see only numbers and think they can just substitute a cheaper on in.

I do think the SM-3 and THAAD are better options for Europe. Our GBI's cover the homeland, its EUCOM AOR that needs the coverage the most. I hate it for the Pol's, I was actually hoping to get a tour over there at some point

Posted: 9/20/2009 3:31:32 AM EDT

[#8]

In its most basic form, America sold both Poland and Ukraine to Russia....and I dont even know what we got in return.
I have no idea what BHO is doing but dumping allies to appease Putin isnt exactly what I consider encouraging progress in diplomacy.

My guess is that our president didnt sacrifice paws to gain advantage on the board.....he flat out lost them making bad moves. (which isnt a really good indicator that we can win this game)

Posted: 9/20/2009 3:38:41 AM EDT

[#9]

Cheaper doesn't mean better. They're trying to save cost while pushing the good-enough-for-now mentality.

Posted: 9/20/2009 3:57:58 AM EDT

[#10]

Obama does not care for American Interests abroad let alone American Interests here, he wants the money to push his Ideology

Posted: 9/20/2009 4:27:17 AM EDT

[#11]

with Israel sabre rattling is this move to get russia to pressure iran into stopping nuke production? I can only think that would be the only worth this.

Posted: 9/20/2009 5:50:44 AM EDT

[#12]

If Obama had told Gates to sell the ABM system to the American people he'd have written a paper that justified the cost.

Gates is a whore.

Keep in mind that Gates originally recommended the very same system he now says is unnecessary.

Posted: 9/20/2009 5:54:53 AM EDT

[#13]

Quoted:
with Israel sabre rattling is this move to get russia to pressure iran into stopping nuke production? I can only think that would be the only worth this.

At this point (and I'm afraid not much longer) Israel is the only one capable/willing to stop Iran's nuke production.

Posted: 9/20/2009 5:19:58 PM EDT

[#14]

Quoted:

Quoted:
So bring em into NATO. Putting missiles and a radar system in eastern Europe is an expensive solution looking for a problem.

What happened in Georgia last year?

Is Georgia a member of NATO? Did Iran launch ballistic missiles at Georgia?

Posted: 9/20/2009 7:23:08 PM EDT

[#15]

Quoted:

Quoted:
So bring em into NATO.

Yes... this will really make the Ruskies happy!

They are in NATO, I believe, 5 years at least.

By the way, still groggy from your hibernation trip?

Posted: 9/20/2009 7:26:55 PM EDT

[#16]

Quoted:
I don't care for how GBI and SM-3 are compared as if they are comparable. Each has their specific purpose and each have different costs involved. Of course a GBI will cost more...

People who don't know the difference see only numbers and think they can just substitute a cheaper on in.

I do think the SM-3 and THAAD are better options for Europe. Our GBI's cover the homeland, its EUCOM AOR that needs the coverage the most. I hate it for the Pol's, I was actually hoping to get a tour over there at some point

Well, against the IRBM threat from Iran, you can substitute SM-3.

I like your bottom line though. Keep the GBIs at home.

Posted: 9/20/2009 8:07:01 PM EDT

[#17]

Quoted:

Quoted:
I don't care for how GBI and SM-3 are compared as if they are comparable. Each has their specific purpose and each have different costs involved. Of course a GBI will cost more...

People who don't know the difference see only numbers and think they can just substitute a cheaper on in.

I do think the SM-3 and THAAD are better options for Europe. Our GBI's cover the homeland, its EUCOM AOR that needs the coverage the most. I hate it for the Pol's, I was actually hoping to get a tour over there at some point

Well, against the IRBM threat from Iran, you can substitute SM-3.

I like your bottom line though. Keep the GBIs at home.

Speaking of home, like was said before, its a political move. We could coverage to the homeland effectively from here in AK and in the NE US. These other systems should have been the logical choice for EUCOM, but logic is overcome with politics more often than not.

[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Missile Defense - Interesting read from Sec Gates

General » General Discussion

Warning

Confirm Action

About AR15.COM

Stay Connected

Newsletter

Contact Us