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Posted: 9/19/2009 7:50:06 PM EDT
My question to the ARFCOM hive is which team is THE quintessential team of college football? When anyone mentions college football immediately come to mind?
Is it Notre Dame? Michigan? Ohio State? Nebraska? Alabama? You OTHER fans of teams like Florida, do NOT mention your team that has only recently won it's FIRST national title in the last 20 years. We're talking about programs that are STEEPED in tradition. |
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Notre Dame Alabama USC Oklahoma Michigan Ohio State Minnesota Miami Nebraska Pittsburgh |
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Nebraska
Notre Dame Penn State Alabama Ohio State Michigan Florida State |
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The top 5 programs in no particular order.
Notre Dame Michigan Texas USC Bama There is no room to even argue here. |
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Michigan
Notre Dame Alabama Ohio State USC Nebraska These are not in order, BTW |
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Nebraska - Sorry, only 5 Notre Dame Penn State - Only 2 Alabama Ohio State Michigan Florida State - Only 2 |
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It pains me to say this but Texas and Texas A&M have to be included in the list.
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Quoted: Nebraska Notre Dame Penn State Alabama Florida State I agree with this. |
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The top 5 programs in no particular order. Notre Dame Michigan Texas - WRONG! Only three national championships USC Bama There is no room to even argue here. |
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Why are you guys putting Notre Dame on your lists?
Really? Notre Dame has sucked for a long time... |
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Why are you guys putting Notre Dame on your lists? Really? Notre Dame has sucked for a long time... The numbers dont lie. They have 12 championships. The last was in 1988 |
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Quoted: Why are you guys putting Notre Dame on your lists? Really? Notre Dame has sucked for a long time... It's not about which has had alot of recent success. It's about programs that have the most prestige and tradition dating back a long time. |
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Why are you guys putting Notre Dame on your lists? Really? Notre Dame has sucked for a long time... It might have to do with the "steeped in tradition thing".... -Erik |
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Quoted: Why are you guys putting Notre Dame on your lists? Really? Notre Dame has sucked for a long time... They had a longer time of being than being bad |
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Quoted: Why are you guys putting Notre Dame on your lists? Really? Notre Dame has sucked for a long time... Did you miss this part? Quoted: You OTHER fans of teams like Florida, do NOT mention your team that has only recently won it's FIRST national title in the last 20 years. We're talking about programs that are STEEPED in tradition. The thread isn't about "which team has the most championships"....it's "steeped in tradition" and Notre Dame is JUST that. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Why are you guys putting Notre Dame on your lists? Really? Notre Dame has sucked for a long time... Did you miss this part? Quoted: YouOTHER fans of teams like Florida, do NOT mention your team that hasonly recently won it's FIRST national title in the last 20 years. We'retalking about programs that are STEEPED in tradition. The thread isn't about "which team has the most championships"....it's "steeped in tradition" and Notre Dame is JUST that. Fair enough. I just hate Notre Dame, and Brady Quinn. |
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The top 5 programs in no particular order. Notre Dame Michigan Texas - WRONG! Only three national championships USC Bama There is no room to even argue here. Why don't you google all time wins and get back to me. |
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Quoted: Quoted: The top 5 programs in no particular order. Notre Dame Michigan Texas - WRONG! Only three national championships Wrong! Texas has 4 USC Bama There is no room to even argue here. |
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#1. Michigan. #2. Notre Dame. Everyone else are just Johnny-come-latelys. |
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Quoted: The top 5 programs in no particular order. Notre Dame Michigan Texas USC Bama There is no room to even argue here. Very good list |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Why are you guys putting Notre Dame on your lists? Really? Notre Dame has sucked for a long time... Did you miss this part? Quoted: YouOTHER fans of teams like Florida, do NOT mention your team that hasonly recently won it's FIRST national title in the last 20 years. We'retalking about programs that are STEEPED in tradition. The thread isn't about "which team has the most championships"....it's "steeped in tradition" and Notre Dame is JUST that. Fair enough. I just hate Notre Dame, and Brady Quinn. How can you hate the team that let Rudy play. |
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The top 5 programs in no particular order. Notre Dame Michigan Texas - WRONG! Only three national championships Wrong! Texas has 4 USC Bama There is no room to even argue here. Upon closer inspection of the numbers, you are correct. But that is hardly impressive. Besides, their just a bunch of fuckin Texicans. |
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It pains me to say this but Texas and Texas A&M have to be included in the list. I concur. |
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Seriously though.. some of these teams listed are
Some of them, by the time they got their FIRST National title, Michigan already had 8 by then. |
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Top 10 Div. I Schools by # of Games Played Top 10 Div. I Schools by # of Games Won |
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Quoted: Seriously though.. some of these teams listed are Some of them, by the time they got their FIRST National title, Michigan already had 8 by then. Meh, all but one of their titles are pre-1950. |
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Total All-Time National Champions from Major Selectors
School Championships Princeton 28 Yale 27 Michigan 22 Notre Dame 21 Oklahoma 17 USC 17 Alabama 16 Ohio State 13 Harvard 12 Nebraska 11 Pittsburgh 11 Miami 9 Texas 9 Florida State 7 LSU 7 1869-present Below is a list of all of the CFBDW recognized national championships from 1869-present. School Championships Seasons Princeton 24 1869, 1870, 1872, 1873, 1875, 1877, 1878, 1879, 1880, 1881, 1884, 1885, 1886, 1889, 1893, 1896, 1899, 1903, 1906, 1911, 1920, 1922, 1933, 1935 Yale 19 1874, 1876, 1877, 1880, 1881, 1882, 1883, 1884, 1886, 1887, 1888, 1891, 1892, 1894, 1900, 1905, 1906, 1907, 1909 Notre Dame 12 1924, 1929, 1930, 1943, 1946, 1947, 1949, 1953, 1966, 1973, 1977, 1988 Alabama 11 1925, 1926, 1930, 1934, 1961, 1964, 1965, 1973, 1978, 1979, 1992 Harvard 10 1875, 1890, 1898, 1899, 1901, 1908, 1910, 1912, 1913, 1919 USC 10 1928, 1931, 1932, 1962, 1967, 1972, 1974, 1978, 2003, 2004 Michigan 7 1901, 1902, 1923, 1933, 1947, 1948, 1997 Oklahoma 7 1950, 1955, 1956, 1974, 1975, 1985, 2000 Minnesota 6 1934, 1935, 1936, 1940, 1941, 1960 Pittsburgh 6 1910, 1916, 1918, 1936, 1937, 1976 Miami 5 1983, 1987, 1989, 1991, 2001 Nebraska 5 1970, 1971, 1994, 1995, 1997 Ohio State 5 1942, 1954, 1957, 1968, 2002 Army 4 1914, 1944, 1945, 1946 Georgia Tech 4 1917, 1928, 1952, 1990 Illinois 4 1914, 1919, 1923, 1927 Pennsylvania 4 1895, 1897, 1904, 1908 Tennessee 4 1938, 1950, 1951, 1998 Texas 4 1963, 1969, 1970, 2005 California 3 1920, 1921, 1922 Florida 3 1996, 2006, 2008 LSU 3 1958, 2003, 2007 National Poll Championships (1936–present) School Championships Seasons Notre Dame 8 1943, 1946, 1947, 1949, 1966, 1973, 1977, 1988 USC 7 1962, 1967, 1972, 1974 (UPI), 1978 (UPI), 2003 (AP), 2004 (BCS/AP/USAT) Oklahoma 7 1950, 1955, 1956, 1974, 1975, 1985, 2000 (BCS/AP/USAT) Alabama 7 1961, 1964, 1965, 1973 (UPI), 1978, 1979, 1992 Ohio State 5 1942, 1954, 1957 (UPI), 1968, 2002 (BCS/AP/USAT) Nebraska 5 1970, 1971, 1994, 1995, 1997 (USAT) Miami 5 1983, 1987, 1989, 1991, 2001 (BCS/AP/USAT) Texas 4 1963, 1969, 1970 (UPI), 2005 (BCS/AP/USAT) Minnesota 4 1936, 1940, 1941, 1960 LSU 3 1958, 2003 (BCS/USAT), 2007 (BCS/AP/USAT) Florida 3 1996, 2006 (BCS/AP/USAT), 2008 (BCS/AP/USAT |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: The top 5 programs in no particular order. Notre Dame Michigan Texas - WRONG! Only three national championships Wrong! Texas has 4 USC Bama There is no room to even argue here. Upon closer inspection of the numbers, you are correct. But that is hardly impressive. Besides, their just a bunch of fuckin Texicans. I concur. But again, this isn't about "most championships". |
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The top 5 programs in no particular order. Notre Dame Michigan Texas USC Bama There is no room to even argue here. Very good list Nebraska deserves to be in there too. So mine is now a Top 6 |
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Quoted: Quoted: Seriously though.. some of these teams listed are Some of them, by the time they got their FIRST National title, Michigan already had 8 by then. Meh, all but one of their titles are pre-1950. It doesn't matter, I said STEEPED in tradition. All these Johnny come lately picks are stupid. Shit, Florida won their FIRST national title in 1996. Sorry, but that is not even CLOSE to being "steeped in tradition". |
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Quoted: School Championships Princeton 28 Yale 27 Michigan 22 Notre Dame 21 Oklahoma 17 USC 17 Alabama 16 Ohio State 13 Harvard 12 Nebraska 11 Pittsburgh 11 Miami 9 Texas 9 Florida State 7 LSU 7 Ah, someone who really knows what they're talking about. |
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Seriously though.. some of these teams listed are Some of them, by the time they got their FIRST National title, Michigan already had 8 by then. Yeah and if you want to go by that. Princeton had 20 before Michigan had their FIRST!! Whats your point? |
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Quoted: Seriously though.. some of these teams listed are Some of them, by the time they got their FIRST National title, Michigan already had 8 by then. Oregon made my list because they have an old program (1893), have a long history of Rose Bowl appearances (first in 1917), and PCC, PAC-8 and PAC-10 titles. As a kid, I can remember constantly seeing and hearing things about how great UofO's program is and this and that, and it seems to me they get more press coverage. When I think of college football, they are a team that comes to mind. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Seriously though.. some of these teams listed are Some of them, by the time they got their FIRST National title, Michigan already had 8 by then. Yeah and if you want to go by that. Princeton had 20 before Michigan had their FIRST!! Whats your point? If your team's first national championship was attained in the middle of the 20th century. I hardly see how that can count as being "steeped in tradition". |
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The top 5 programs in no particular order. Notre Dame Michigan Texas USC Bama There is no room to even argue here. Very good list Yep, good list. I'd add the rest of the top 10 Oklahoma Ohio St. Miami Nebraska Georgia OR Penn State Those are the teams with the highest winning percentages and the most nation championships after the ivy league era. |
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Seriously though.. some of these teams listed are Some of them, by the time they got their FIRST National title, Michigan already had 8 by then. Yeah and if you want to go by that. Princeton had 20 before Michigan had their FIRST!! Whats your point? If your team's first national championship was attained in the middle of the 20th century. I hardly see how that can count as being "steeped in tradition". Yes I agree. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Seriously though.. some of these teams listed are Some of them, by the time they got their FIRST National title, Michigan already had 8 by then. Yeah and if you want to go by that. Princeton had 20 before Michigan had their FIRST!! Whats your point? If your team's first national championship was attained in the middle of the 20th century. I hardly see how that can count as being "steeped in tradition". Yes I agree. I'll concede that having a long, storied history of winning lots and lots of games and championships doesn't constitute being "steeped in tradition" completely. But it certainly is a very large factor in it. If my Detroit Lions win a Superbowl this year (they wont), I'm not going to list them in the same group as the Pittsburgh Steelers, Dallas Cowboys or the 49ers. Because those teams have a long storied history of winning. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Seriously though.. some of these teams listed are Some of them, by the time they got their FIRST National title, Michigan already had 8 by then. Meh, all but one of their titles are pre-1950. It doesn't matter, I said STEEPED in tradition. All these Johnny come lately picks are stupid. Shit, Florida won their FIRST national title in 1996. Sorry, but that is not even CLOSE to being "steeped in tradition". Meh...they haven't done dick since. *shrug* |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Seriously though.. some of these teams listed are Some of them, by the time they got their FIRST National title, Michigan already had 8 by then. Meh, all but one of their titles are pre-1950. It doesn't matter, I said STEEPED in tradition. All these Johnny come lately picks are stupid. Shit, Florida won their FIRST national title in 1996. Sorry, but that is not even CLOSE to being "steeped in tradition". Meh...they haven't done dick since. *shrug* We're talking about programs that are STEEPED in tradition. |
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Seriously though.. some of these teams listed are Some of them, by the time they got their FIRST National title, Michigan already had 8 by then. Meh, all but one of their titles are pre-1950. It doesn't matter, I said STEEPED in tradition. All these Johnny come lately picks are stupid. Shit, Florida won their FIRST national title in 1996. Sorry, but that is not even CLOSE to being "steeped in tradition". Meh...they haven't done dick since. *shrug* We're talking about programs that are STEEPED in tradition. Well, where are you drawing your time line for the "steeped tradtion"? If you start in 1936, Michigan doesn't even make the top 10 in total National Championships and Notre Dame hasn't won one in 21 years. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Seriously though.. some of these teams listed are Some of them, by the time they got their FIRST National title, Michigan already had 8 by then. Meh, all but one of their titles are pre-1950. It doesn't matter, I said STEEPED in tradition. All these Johnny come lately picks are stupid. Shit, Florida won their FIRST national title in 1996. Sorry, but that is not even CLOSE to being "steeped in tradition". Meh...they haven't done dick since. *shrug* We're talking about programs that are STEEPED in tradition. Well, where are you drawing your time line for the "steeped tradtion"? If you start in 1936, Michigan doesn't even make the top 10 in total National Championships. Teams that are still at least relevant today. The Ivy league football teams DOMINATED in the late 19th and early 20th century, but they are not in the national spot light anymore. Like Notre Dame, sure they haven't done much lately, but they are VERY much steeped in tradition, and are still very much in the national spotlight. South Bend is considered sacred ground to MANY college football enthusiasts, whether they are a fan or not. |
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Seriously though.. some of these teams listed are Some of them, by the time they got their FIRST National title, Michigan already had 8 by then. Meh, all but one of their titles are pre-1950. It doesn't matter, I said STEEPED in tradition. All these Johnny come lately picks are stupid. Shit, Florida won their FIRST national title in 1996. Sorry, but that is not even CLOSE to being "steeped in tradition". Meh...they haven't done dick since. *shrug* We're talking about programs that are STEEPED in tradition. Well, where are you drawing your time line for the "steeped tradtion"? If you start in 1936, Michigan doesn't even make the top 10 in total National Championships. Teams that are still at least relevant today. The Ivy league football teams DOMINATED in the late 19th and early 20th century, but they are not in the national spot light anymore. Like Notre Dame, sure they haven't done much lately, but they are VERY much steeped in tradition, and are still very much in the national spotlight. South Bend is considered sacred ground to MANY college football enthusiasts, whether they are a fan or not. Well, if you include only schools who won a National Championship from 1936 to date, and exclude all schools that haven't won a championship in the last twenty years or only won their first National Championship within the last twenty years - I come up with: USC Oklahoma Alabama Ohio State Nebraska Miami Texas LSU Tennessee Michigan Notre Dame (although their last championship was 21 years ago I agree they've got to be included) |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Seriously though.. some of these teams listed are Some of them, by the time they got their FIRST National title, Michigan already had 8 by then. Meh, all but one of their titles are pre-1950. It doesn't matter, I said STEEPED in tradition. All these Johnny come lately picks are stupid. Shit, Florida won their FIRST national title in 1996. Sorry, but that is not even CLOSE to being "steeped in tradition". Meh...they haven't done dick since. *shrug* We're talking about programs that are STEEPED in tradition. Well, where are you drawing your time line for the "steeped tradtion"? If you start in 1936, Michigan doesn't even make the top 10 in total National Championships. Teams that are still at least relevant today. The Ivy league football teams DOMINATED in the late 19th and early 20th century, but they are not in the national spot light anymore. Like Notre Dame, sure they haven't done much lately, but they are VERY much steeped in tradition, and are still very much in the national spotlight. South Bend is considered sacred ground to MANY college football enthusiasts, whether they are a fan or not. Well, if you include only schools who won a National Championship from 1936 to date, and exclude all schools that haven't won a championship in the last twenty years or only won their first National Championship within the last twenty years - I come up with: USC Oklahoma Alabama Ohio State Nebraska Miami Texas LSU Tennessee Michigan Notre Dame (although their last championship was 21 years ago I agree they've got to be included) Yeah. See, I agree with that list. |
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Being a Michigan State Spartan I hate to say this but 4 of the top 10 teams have to be Sparty's hated rivals of:
Michigan Notre Dame Ohio State Penn State other top 10 teams have to be Nebraska Oklahoma USC Texas Alabama Someone else can try to figure out who takes up the other spot in the top 10 (these are listed in no particular order). I really don't think any of these 9 teams can be left out of the top 10. eta. Jo Pa and his 9 billion years as head coach put Penn State on the list. |
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