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Posted: 8/2/2009 3:34:54 PM EDT
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Its just like the mag being full or the hammer back.
Springs get weak from use. |
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Posted: 8/2/2009 3:35:30 PM EDT
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Why would you want to do that? If nothing else, just put a chamber flag in it. Minimal stress on the spring
ETA perhaps you inherited/bought a pistol that was stored in such a manner, and are contemplating if you should get new springs? |
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Posted: 8/2/2009 3:36:02 PM EDT
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Its just like the mag being full or the hammer back. Springs get weak from use. thats what I figured just wanted to double check |
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Posted: 8/2/2009 3:38:20 PM EDT
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springs get weak from compression and decompression-lots of it. storing it in slidelock is fine
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Posted: 8/2/2009 3:47:06 PM EDT
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I don't think there is any adverse impact on the springs if they are mil spec. The only thing I have ever heard on this topic was a few years ago a lady was clearing out the attic and found a loaded .45 mag from WWII. For some 50 years the mag spring was compressed. The mag fed and otherwise functioned fine.
This is not to say that it is a good practice, but I don't think there is any hard evidence out there that long term mil spec spring compression is no-go. |
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Posted: 8/2/2009 3:51:22 PM EDT
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This depends on the magnitude of the stress in the spring.
It's unlikely anyone designs recoil springs for this duty, so it's conservative to store the gun with the action closed. The main phenomenon to worry about in this situation is called "stress corrosion cracking". If the stress level is sufficiently low, it's nothing to worry about. But that means the part has to be over designed, so a less conservative design stress is used. Even if the sustained stress is sufficiently high and the spring does not corrode, there will not be a problem. This is also what causes torsion style garage door springs to fail, so keeping them oiled to prevent rust will make them last a long time. The other phenomenon is creep under sustained load, and that is also a function of the sustained stress level and the material used for the spring. |
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Posted: 8/2/2009 3:57:02 PM EDT
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It's certainly not the worst thing you can do for a handgun, but ... why?
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Posted: 8/2/2009 3:58:28 PM EDT
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Quoted: Its just like the mag being full or the hammer back. Springs get weak from use. Use being repeated compression and decompression. |
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Posted: 8/2/2009 3:59:38 PM EDT
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Spring would not be an issue however what holds it in the locked position can take to bending or changing shape.
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Posted: 8/2/2009 4:07:04 PM EDT
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I do it routinely at work to identify the uncleaned guns. I may be the Armory Sup. but I aint cleanin the damn guns someone else dirtied up!
 To answer your question, it hasn't hurt any of them. All Beretta M9's
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Posted: 8/2/2009 4:09:55 PM EDT
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Why do you want to do this?
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Posted: 8/2/2009 4:15:01 PM EDT
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I think the reason you leave the action open on any gun is to be absolutely positively sure its safe. Sure a chamber flag is better, but if you don't have one, leave those actions OPEN after a day of shooting until you can clean them.
I got into this practice years ago after starting to clean a Browning .22 pistol. As always, I cycle and visually inspect the chamber before cleaning...and a round popped out. Damn, and I am really anal about gun safety (ex-USMC). After this, when I'm done shooting at the range, I case the guns with the actions open. They will sometimes stay like this for a month and I've never had a problem. Worst case...you can always replace a $10 spring (although I've never had to)...you can't replace a life. |
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Posted: 8/2/2009 4:52:15 PM EDT
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I think the reason you leave the action open on any gun is to be absolutely positively sure its safe. . this I was planning on keeping all my handguns in the safe on the top shelf locked open just for extra you can never be to sure. |
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Posted: 8/3/2009 5:32:57 AM EDT
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You can't be too safe. You might want to look into some chamber flags...they are really cheap. Until them leave 'em open. Everything has to take a back seat to safety. |
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Posted: 8/3/2009 5:37:01 AM EDT
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springs get weak from compression and decompression-lots of it. storing it in slidelock is fine This claim is being challenged more and more each day. I found a link one day here to some people who did a 5 year study on magazine springs. Though the magazines still worked flawlessly, the spring tension WAS ACTUALLY WEAKENED. If I can find it, I'll make a new thread about it... |
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Posted: 8/3/2009 5:39:05 AM EDT
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Quoted: just buy some chamber flagsQuoted: I think the reason you leave the action open on any gun is to be absolutely positively sure its safe. . this I was planning on keeping all my handguns in the safe on the top shelf locked open just for extra you can never be to sure. |
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