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Posted: 8/2/2009 10:16:17 AM EDT
EDIT:  Added links to more pages at the bottom of this post
To keep page loading time to a minimum, I won't continue to post the images here.  Just the links.

Grandfather passed away a few months ago.

While boxing up some stuff, we found some really old books.

One was a 1914 edition of a New York Sporting Goods mail order catalog.

It belonged to my great-great-grandfather.  

Here are two pages I scanned from it.

Remember, it used to be legal to mail order firearms direct to you.  Check out the prices.

PAGE 166 shows a .25 caliber colt automatic.  

My great-great-grandfather ordered it from this catalog.  

My great grandfather inherited it, and when he passed my dad inherited it.

I've shot it once.  







per requests, I started scanning and uploading pages beginning with the first page of the firearm section.

It is a little sporadic, going from guns, to cabinets, to guns, to game cleaning, to guns.......

I'll be adding them as I can get them uploaded.  Pages 118 through 225 seem relevant to our interests.

I find it interesting how a Colt pistol sells for $22.00, but some shotguns listed sell for more than $500.

I'd love to know what those shotguns are worth today.

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Link Posted: 8/2/2009 10:18:53 AM EDT
[#1]
I'll take ten 1911's......20 Lugers...........50 extra Luger mags.............and 10,00 rounds of ammo.

How much is shipping? .
Link Posted: 8/2/2009 10:19:19 AM EDT
[#2]
22 dollars for a 1911.
Link Posted: 8/2/2009 10:20:06 AM EDT
[#3]
It must have been nice to experience freedom.
Link Posted: 8/2/2009 10:22:31 AM EDT
[#4]
Very cool. Great prices also.
Link Posted: 8/2/2009 10:22:42 AM EDT
[#5]
Quoted:
22 dollars for a 1911.


In 1914, that was about a week's pay.  What can you buy on a week's pay today?
Link Posted: 8/2/2009 10:22:43 AM EDT
[#6]
Wow!
I wish it was like that now, only I bet 22.00 would have been a lot of money back then
Link Posted: 8/2/2009 10:22:50 AM EDT
[#7]
Hmm compensating for inflation i see 1911s and Lugers at around 500$
Link Posted: 8/2/2009 10:24:17 AM EDT
[#8]
I'll take a couple Lugers for $23.50 each please.
Link Posted: 8/2/2009 10:24:24 AM EDT
[#9]
I want the Luger its powerful enough to take large game!!!
Link Posted: 8/2/2009 10:25:23 AM EDT
[#10]
Does the catalog have any of the following:
-BAR
-Thompson SMG
-Beltfed MG

I'd love to see pictures and prices
Link Posted: 8/2/2009 10:26:25 AM EDT
[#11]
$22 is a lot of money when you make $100 a month.
Link Posted: 8/2/2009 10:27:24 AM EDT
[#12]
Quoted:
Quoted:
22 dollars for a 1911.


In 1914, that was about a week's pay.  What can you buy on a week's pay today?


My Sig 1911 cost me ~ $1,100 out the door... About a weeks pay.
Link Posted: 8/2/2009 10:27:53 AM EDT
[#13]
Quoted:
I want the Luger its powerful enough to take large game!!!

Don't forget the "1,900yd range".
Link Posted: 8/2/2009 10:28:13 AM EDT
[#14]
Quoted:
Does the catalog have any of the following:
-BAR
-Thompson SMG
-Beltfed MG

I'd love to see pictures and prices


In 1914, the Thompson and BAR didn't exist.  The only real MG were big bastards like the Maxim.
Link Posted: 8/2/2009 10:28:17 AM EDT
[#15]
Pretty cool.
Link Posted: 8/2/2009 10:28:18 AM EDT
[#16]
Quoted:
Does the catalog have any of the following:
-BAR
-Thompson SMG
-Beltfed MG

I'd love to see pictures and prices


I've been tearing the house apart.  I KNOW I saw a similar catalog that wasn't quite as old.

It did have full-auto Thompsons in it.  

I suspect my grandfather threw it away years ago when he moved in.

My parents are keeping their eyes open though.
Link Posted: 8/2/2009 10:28:52 AM EDT
[#17]



Quoted:


I'll take ten 1911's......20 Lugers...........50 extra Luger mags.............and 10,00 rounds of ammo.



How much is shipping?
.


Sucker I'd sell my house and cash out the 401k max out the credit cards and then sell it all for 900,000% profit on GON and retire...



 
Link Posted: 8/2/2009 10:29:09 AM EDT
[#18]



Quoted:



Quoted:

22 dollars for a 1911.




In 1914, that was about a week's pay.  What can you buy on a week's pay today?


Depends on the week




 
Link Posted: 8/2/2009 10:29:51 AM EDT
[#19]
Can I order ten 1911s?
Link Posted: 8/2/2009 10:30:15 AM EDT
[#20]
Quoted:
Does the catalog have any of the following:
-BAR
-Thompson SMG
-Beltfed MG

I'd love to see pictures and prices


1914 is too early for the BAR and the Thompson to have been invented.  Belt Feds were made, but I don't think Sears sold them.
Link Posted: 8/2/2009 10:30:59 AM EDT
[#21]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
22 dollars for a 1911.


In 1914, that was about a week's pay.  What can you buy on a week's pay today?


My Sig 1911 cost me ~ $1,100 out the door... About a weeks pay.


What I found interesting is the ratio of magazine price to pistol price. It's really pretty close to what they are today.
Link Posted: 8/2/2009 10:31:05 AM EDT
[#22]
9mm range = 1600 yds?

WOW!
Link Posted: 8/2/2009 10:31:10 AM EDT
[#23]
Link Posted: 8/2/2009 10:31:21 AM EDT
[#24]
$22 in 1914 is equivalent to just about $500 now.
Link Posted: 8/2/2009 10:32:58 AM EDT
[#25]
Quoted:

Quoted:
Quoted:
22 dollars for a 1911.


In 1914, that was about a week's pay.  What can you buy on a week's pay today?

Depends on the week
 


Also depends on how many hookers I drive by on the way home
Link Posted: 8/2/2009 10:35:21 AM EDT
[#26]
Quoted:
Wow!
I wish it was like that now, only I bet 22.00 would have been a lot of money back then


You could buy a new car for $800 by comparison.
Link Posted: 8/2/2009 10:36:08 AM EDT
[#27]
Its kinda' funny to see those being sold from a company out of NEW YORK!
Link Posted: 8/2/2009 10:40:59 AM EDT
[#28]
I think those Savage auto pistols are friggin sweet. I'd like to pick one up if i get the chance.
Link Posted: 8/2/2009 10:42:11 AM EDT
[#29]
luger range 1900 yards?
Link Posted: 8/2/2009 10:42:39 AM EDT
[#30]
Average salary in 1914 was ~$630 a year, or ~$52.50 a month.
A 1911 for half a month's pay?

Average pay for earlier this decade was ~$45,000. or $3,750. Subtract 30% for taxes not present in 1914 and we have ~$2,625 a month.
We still have decent 1911's for about half a month's pay, or even less for a basic 1911.
Link Posted: 8/2/2009 10:44:22 AM EDT
[#31]



Quoted:



Quoted:

22 dollars for a 1911.




In 1914, that was about a week's pay.  What can you buy on a week's pay today?


Me?  Oh, probably 400 rounds of .223.  That's about it.    A 1911 would take me about 5 paychecks.  

 






Part time at minimum wage sucks.
Link Posted: 8/2/2009 10:44:46 AM EDT
[#32]
What's with the stigma on suppressors today?  Wouldn't it make sense to quiet the report as much as possible on a rifle?  I mean, the local motocross track damn near got shut down due to noise pollution.  How did it come about that I needed to jump through my ass, rub my tummy and pat my head and the same time, and send 200 bones to the BATFE in order to get the cans I have?
Link Posted: 8/2/2009 10:45:37 AM EDT
[#33]
AWESOME POST ! Try giving them a call and see if they'll honor their advertised prices...
Link Posted: 8/2/2009 10:45:54 AM EDT
[#34]



Quoted:


What's with the stigma on suppressors today?  Wouldn't it make sense to quiet the report as much as possible on a rifle?  I mean, the local motocross track damn near got shut down due to noise pollution.  How did it come about that I needed to jump through my ass, rub my tummy and pat my head and the same time, and send 200 bones to the BATFE in order to get the cans I have?


Because people watch too many movies and think silencers are only for assassins and criminals.



 
Link Posted: 8/2/2009 10:46:46 AM EDT
[#35]



Quoted:


What's with the stigma on suppressors today?  Wouldn't it make sense to quiet the report as much as possible on a rifle?  I mean, the local motocross track damn near got shut down due to noise pollution.  How did it come about that I needed to jump through my ass, rub my tummy and pat my head and the same time, and send 200 bones to the BATFE in order to get the cans I have?


It's fucked, but what isn't?

 
Link Posted: 8/2/2009 10:53:04 AM EDT
[#36]
Quoted:
What's with the stigma on suppressors today?  Wouldn't it make sense to quiet the report as much as possible on a rifle?  I mean, the local motocross track damn near got shut down due to noise pollution.  How did it come about that I needed to jump through my ass, rub my tummy and pat my head and the same time, and send 200 bones to the BATFE in order to get the cans I have?


During the depression people where using silencers to illegally hunt game and thats why they are "special" now
Link Posted: 8/2/2009 10:56:04 AM EDT
[#37]
Remember, it used to be legal to mail order firearms direct to you.


I grew up reading those ads in my dad's magazines........with one hand.  That mail order stuff changed with the 1968 Gun Control Act, because of the Kennedy assassinations.

Link Posted: 8/2/2009 10:56:32 AM EDT
[#38]
Quoted:
Its kinda' funny to see those being sold from a company out of NEW YORK!


makes sense to me seeing almost every American made firearm back then was manufactured in the north east.
Link Posted: 8/2/2009 11:02:34 AM EDT
[#39]
In before Dave_A tells us how inflation is good for us.
Link Posted: 8/2/2009 11:03:34 AM EDT
[#40]
Wow!!  If only I had a time machine.
Link Posted: 8/2/2009 11:04:58 AM EDT
[#41]
How about $190 for a semi-auto 20mm?

Link Posted: 8/2/2009 11:07:04 AM EDT
[#42]
I don't know how much time you have on your hands, but... I would LOVE to see more pages from that catalog!  That stuff is really interesting.
Link Posted: 8/2/2009 11:10:13 AM EDT
[#43]
These pages should be framed and hung on the wall of your gun room.



Who doesn't have a gun room?

Link Posted: 8/2/2009 11:11:37 AM EDT
[#44]
Quoted:
It must have been nice to experience freedom.


Link Posted: 8/2/2009 11:15:03 AM EDT
[#45]
This post should be required reading for everybody.



Great stuff.  Real history.



When men were men, since we're all pussys now...
Link Posted: 8/2/2009 11:15:40 AM EDT
[#46]
No,

$22 back then was a $20 gold piece and 2 silver dollars, just shy of $1000 today.

Ed
Link Posted: 8/2/2009 11:15:41 AM EDT
[#47]
I'll take the 20 mm for a long range hunting rifle.  I don't particularly care to get too close to a griz or a polar bear.
Link Posted: 8/2/2009 11:16:38 AM EDT
[#48]
A time machine, $1000, and a shit ton of cosmolene and you could be a millionaire.
Link Posted: 8/2/2009 11:19:17 AM EDT
[#49]
The_Reaper - can you tease me some more and show me the Broomhandle Mauser with its stock.
Link Posted: 8/2/2009 11:22:58 AM EDT
[#50]
Quoted:
$22 in 1914 is equivalent to just about $500 now.


From the BLS...

$22 in 1914 dollars is equal to $474.52 in 2009 dollars.

RF
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