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Posted: 7/31/2009 4:03:59 PM EDT
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Airguns are available from .177, .22, all the way to .50
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Posted: 7/31/2009 4:05:35 PM EDT
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Airguns are available from .177, .22, all the way to .50 Really 
I've only seen .177 and .22 Who knew! 
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Posted: 7/31/2009 4:07:34 PM EDT
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Posted: 7/31/2009 4:07:55 PM EDT
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thanks!
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Posted: 7/31/2009 4:15:24 PM EDT
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a .50 Air gun....
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Posted: 7/31/2009 4:21:56 PM EDT
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There was a story in shotgun news about a 50 cal air rifle dropping a deer.
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Posted: 7/31/2009 4:26:18 PM EDT
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holy shit the dragon slayer ftw
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Posted: 7/31/2009 4:26:38 PM EDT
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Quoted: There was a story in shotgun news about a 50 cal air rifle dropping a deer. I just read a story about a 50 cal air rifle dropping a MOOSE. I'll have to find it again. |
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Posted: 7/31/2009 4:35:54 PM EDT
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think about the amount of air and pressure required to push a .177
Now think of the pressure required to Ahhh... never mind –– you figure it out |
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Posted: 7/31/2009 4:42:15 PM EDT
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a .50 Air gun.... .50, no report, no tax stamp. |
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Posted: 7/31/2009 4:42:41 PM EDT
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that 50 is 600 fps now granted I wouldn't want to be shot by it but I would have doubts about any penetration.
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Posted: 7/31/2009 4:43:50 PM EDT
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for that matter they even make airgun shotguns.
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Posted: 7/31/2009 4:45:50 PM EDT
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that 50 is 600 fps now granted I wouldn't want to be shot by it but I would have doubts about any penetration. I'm pretty sure you could ramp that up pretty easily. What was the muzzle FPS on a 1700's musket? |
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Posted: 7/31/2009 4:51:52 PM EDT
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a .50 Air gun.... .50, no report, no tax stamp. Try unsuppressed 9 MM NATO loud. |
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Posted: 7/31/2009 4:54:24 PM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: that 50 is 600 fps now granted I wouldn't want to be shot by it but I would have doubts about any penetration. I'm pretty sure you could ramp that up pretty easily. What was the muzzle FPS on a 1700's musket? 545grain at 1000 fps on a 68 cal Brown Bess over 100g powder some website so seems like 1k give or take. |
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Posted: 7/31/2009 5:02:12 PM EDT
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Quoted: that 50 is 600 fps now granted I wouldn't want to be shot by it but I would have doubts about any penetration. well a 45acp @ 200grn is only ~850fps adv which would be from a longer than normal pistol brl, so i am sure it would penetrate |
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Posted: 7/31/2009 5:04:01 PM EDT
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Didn't Louis and Clark have airguns for hunting? No need for powder to keep stocked or dry.
It falls to no market to sell such a creation or better options (centerfire rifles). |
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Posted: 7/31/2009 5:06:30 PM EDT
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So, yoozgyz don't know the stories of men caught with an air gun that were hung for just having them... a few hundred years ago?
da-da-damn, public education. |
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Posted: 7/31/2009 5:06:57 PM EDT
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I think the lewis & clark expedition brought along a .50 air rifle that had a bigass metal ball for air compression.
been around for a long time. |
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Posted: 7/31/2009 5:07:11 PM EDT
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Didn't Louis and Clark have airguns for hunting? No need for powder to keep stocked or dry. It falls to no market to sell such a creation or better options (centerfire rifles). Yes, in fact the first fatality was a native American killed with that airgun. |
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Posted: 7/31/2009 5:08:37 PM EDT
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Lewis & Clark took a large bore airgun on their famed expedition.
http://www.beemans.net/lewis-assault-rifle.htm |
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Posted: 7/31/2009 5:10:23 PM EDT
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He said BB gun, not pellet gun. I've never seen a BB bigger than .177.
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Posted: 7/31/2009 5:11:29 PM EDT
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Didn't Louis and Clark have airguns for hunting? No need for powder to keep stocked or dry. It falls to no market to sell such a creation or better options (centerfire rifles). They had one, very advanced for that day and age... 7 shot repeater, I believe... |
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Posted: 7/31/2009 5:14:12 PM EDT
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He said BB gun, not pellet gun. I've never seen a BB bigger than .177. They're readily available in 6mm 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Airsoft |
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Posted: 7/31/2009 5:26:17 PM EDT
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Originally, BB guns in .177 caliber used what was then a very common size of (steel) Ball Bearing. It was very possible to make bigger "BB" guns, but there would have been no cheap ammo already in production.
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Posted: 7/31/2009 5:40:28 PM EDT
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Lewis & Clark took a large bore airgun on their famed expedition. http://www.beemans.net/lewis-assault-rifle.htm Great War Militaria.. Nice bunch of guys. |
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Posted: 7/31/2009 5:48:32 PM EDT
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Lewis & Clark took a large bore airgun on their famed expedition. http://www.beemans.net/lewis-assault-rifle.htm Great War Militaria.. Nice bunch of guys. Great info |
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Posted: 7/31/2009 6:29:16 PM EDT
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'Cause of the sheeple!
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Posted: 7/31/2009 6:39:03 PM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: He said BB gun, not pellet gun. I've never seen a BB bigger than .177. They're readily available in 6mm http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Airsoft BB had been standard bore of 0.175", originating from BB sized shot, used for waterfowl. |
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Posted: 8/1/2009 9:57:51 AM EDT
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I've seen a South Korean airgun in 0.355" used for hunting boar.
Priced ~1000 bucks locally, supposed to shoot a 125 grain bullet at 1300 fps. |
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Posted: 8/1/2009 10:08:41 AM EDT
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Aren't BB 's by definition 0.177 dia?
As far as large caliber air guns go? Very Very big 
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Posted: 8/1/2009 10:34:48 AM EDT
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Lewis & Clark took a large bore airgun on their famed expedition. http://www.beemans.net/lewis-assault-rifle.htm Great link. Thanks for adding it. |
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Posted: 8/1/2009 10:38:29 AM EDT
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Air Guns where making a name as war weapons in the time between Bow and arrow to Black powder.
They had better power than a crossbow and where quicker to reload Black powder cut them short I think France had some in their army I'll Goggled and edited In this era, France, Austria and other nations had special detachments of snipers who carried air-rifles. The Austrian 1780 model was named "Windbüchse" (literally "wind rifle") in German. The guns were developed by the gunsmith Bartholomeo Girandoni (1744-1799), and are occasionally called "Girandoni air guns" in literature (the name is occasionally spelled "Girandony"). The Windbüchse was about 4 ft (1.2 m) long and weighed 10 pounds (4.5 kg), which was about the same size and mass as a conventional musket of the time. The reservoir was a removable, club-shaped butt; the gun was recharged by replacing the exhausted reservoir with a new one. The Windbüchse carried twenty lead balls of .52 inch caliber (13mm) in a tubular magazine. It could shoot one magazine in about thirty seconds, which was a fearsome rate of fire compared to the slow-loading muzzle loaders of the period. A shot from this gun could penetrate a one-inch wooden board at a 100 paces. The effect is roughly equal to that of a modern 9mm or .45 caliber pistol. From: http://en.allexperts.com/e/a/ai/air_gun.htm |
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Posted: 8/1/2009 10:40:46 AM EDT
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Big bore ones are big bucks though http://www.pyramydair.com/cgi-bin/show.pl?cmd_rifles=show_guns_caliber&Caliber=0.450 http://www.pyramydair.com/cgi-bin/show.pl?cmd_rifles=show_guns_caliber&Caliber=0.500 A box of 50 9mm pellets will set you back $16.90  What's the point of an air rifle?
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Posted: 8/1/2009 10:46:45 AM EDT
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Quoted: Aren't BB 's by definition 0.177 dia? As far as large caliber air guns go? Very Very big http://www.aintalltherepumpkincannon.com/videos/extension.jpg Actually, 0.172". Pellets fit the grooves, BBs are hard steel and must fit the land diameter which is 0.174". |
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