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Posted: 6/14/2009 7:52:19 PM EDT
Anyone else watch the series' on The History Channel, "UFO Hunters." I'm watching an episode about Area 51. It is interesting for sure, but all about ratings for the TV show. I wonder if the so called "Cammo Dudes." Wackenhut right? Are like Jesus Christ, Base we got another UFO Hunter out here. I'll be waiting for them to do something stupid?
Link Posted: 6/14/2009 7:58:10 PM EDT
[#1]
I can't speak to Area 51, except to say I don't believe it is anything other than a location used to test advanced concept aircraft (just my opinion).

I do remember an incident at another base back when I was in the Air Force, in which some "peace demonstrators" broke through some chain link fences on the base perimeter.

There were nuclear weapons stored at this particular base, not far from where the intrusion took place.

The "peace demonstrators" got to see what the wrong end of several loaded M-16s looked like, pretty damn quick .

ETA: Actually they might have been GAU-5s instead of M-16s.  Whatever the SPs were carrying anyway.
Link Posted: 6/14/2009 8:07:49 PM EDT
[#2]
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I can't speak to Area 51, except to say I don't believe it is anything other than a location used to test advanced concept aircraft (just my opinion).

I do remember an incident at another base back when I was in the Air Force, in which some "peace demonstrators" broke through some chain link fences on the base perimeter.

There were nuclear weapons stored at this particular base, not far from where the intrusion took place.

The "peace demonstrators" got to see what the wrong end of several loaded M-16s looked like, pretty damn quick .


Ha-ha I bet they didn't try to place any flowers in those barrels did they? I wonder if Wackenhut guys are paid good? I would love to hear it on the scanner though, the comms between Wackenhut guys. "God Damn, we got us another UFO Hunter. "Dumb Ass Mo-Fos" "Ill go get em out of here. LMFAO
Link Posted: 6/14/2009 8:11:27 PM EDT
[#3]
My guess is, as soon as the name Area 51 became common knowledge, the majority of really secret operations were moved elsewhere and Area 51 became a decoy.
Link Posted: 6/14/2009 8:15:07 PM EDT
[#4]




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My guess is, as soon as the name Area 51 became common knowledge, the majority of really secret operations were moved elsewhere and Area 51 became a decoy.




I don't doubt there is very sensitive work going on at 51 but I agree with half of this statement.
Link Posted: 6/14/2009 8:17:33 PM EDT
[#5]
I'd be willing to bet if they had ufos, they'd hide them where ufo dumbasses would think, like langley or something...

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Link Posted: 6/14/2009 8:22:17 PM EDT
[#6]
The real UFOs are here don'tchaknow...
Link Posted: 6/14/2009 8:23:45 PM EDT
[#7]
Whats the new base thats inside the mountain?  Somewhere in new mexico or some crap like that.

ETA google is your friend

Dulce, New Mexico, look it up.
Link Posted: 6/14/2009 8:23:50 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 6/14/2009 8:27:40 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 6/14/2009 8:28:54 PM EDT
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I own a 5 acres place in Rachel NV, the town famous for being closest to Area 51. The guards used to try and intimidate tourists that were on BLM land just outside the restricted zone but now most know they have no power on BLM land and they don't bother anyone any longer. The signs say no photography but you can click all day long as long as you are not past the border. Passing the border gets you arrested and the Lincoln County Sheriff comes to pick you up, you also get a $600 fine for the effort.  


The days before GPS they used to move the restricted signs onto BLM land just to screw with people.


Wow! Have you ever seen them? I wonder if they live on base or what?    LMFAO Look At around 6 min
Link Posted: 6/14/2009 8:30:23 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 6/14/2009 8:33:56 PM EDT
[#12]
History channel used to be a good place to stop the remote on......lately it's become more of a Jerry Springer type broadcast channel.....all smoke and mirrors and bullshit stuff.

Little to no real history.

Link Posted: 6/14/2009 8:35:14 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 6/14/2009 8:36:50 PM EDT
[#14]
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I own a 5 acres place in Rachel NV, the town famous for being closest to Area 51. The guards used to try and intimidate tourists that were on BLM land just outside the restricted zone but now most know they have no power on BLM land and they don't bother anyone any longer. The signs say no photography but you can click all day long as long as you are not past the border. Passing the border gets you arrested and the Lincoln County Sheriff comes to pick you up, you also get a $600 fine for the effort.  


The days before GPS they used to move the restricted signs onto BLM land just to screw with people.


Wow! Have you ever seen them? I wonder if they live on base or what?    LMFAO Look At around 6 min


I've never seen them in town or anywhere except on the overlook to the border where they sit if somebody comes down Groom Lake Road towards the border. I took HiramRanger out there a few years ago, he was freaking out as we got close to the border. It was pretty damn funny.


I'm thinking about coming through the area  next summer, see thread in team. Perhaps would you be willing to escort me around, if you are around at the time?
Link Posted: 6/14/2009 8:37:51 PM EDT
[#15]
They had to re open it so the aliens could guard the birf certififate.

Link Posted: 6/14/2009 8:41:12 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 6/14/2009 8:45:19 PM EDT
[#17]
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I'm thinking about coming through the area  next summer, see thread in team. Perhaps would you be willing to escort me around, if you are around at the time?


I live in Vegas but am building my SHTF place out there so I'm going up there all the time. Just give me a heads up and I'll be more than happy to show you around out there.


Great, I always thought it would be sweet to live in LV, but I guess the tourists would get irritating. How exactly do you get gas in Rachael, from what I understand they don't have a fuel center? If possible could you post some pics of the area, if you happen to have any? IM if you want.
Link Posted: 6/14/2009 8:53:06 PM EDT
[#18]
Theres a gas station a little while past Rachel if I remember.
Link Posted: 6/14/2009 8:53:57 PM EDT
[#19]
All the stuff supposedly got moved out of Area 51 to Utah, someplace around the Dugway Proving Grounds.(?).
Hell, who knows for sure.
Link Posted: 6/14/2009 8:56:57 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 6/14/2009 9:10:06 PM EDT
[#21]
It is a real place, Bill Clinton said so.
Link Posted: 6/14/2009 9:13:59 PM EDT
[#22]
Area 51 is real, I don't know about UFOs but they have some mighty fine gun parts for sale.
Link Posted: 6/14/2009 9:18:26 PM EDT
[#23]
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I'm thinking about coming through the area  next summer, see thread in team. Perhaps would you be willing to escort me around, if you are around at the time?


I live in Vegas but am building my SHTF place out there so I'm going up there all the time. Just give me a heads up and I'll be more than happy to show you around out there.


Great, I always thought it would be sweet to live in LV, but I guess the tourists would get irritating. How exactly do you get gas in Rachael, from what I understand they don't have a fuel center? If possible could you post some pics of the area, if you happen to have any? IM if you want.


As long as you are not near the Strip or Downtown the tourist problem is non-existent. There used to be gas in Rachel and it is a long story why there isn't anymore but the nearest gas is about 50 miles away from Rachel coming from Vegas so we always fill up there and keep heading on when we go out there. Land is still cheap in Rachel, 5 acre plots can be bought for about 7-8k when someone decides to sell. It has taken me 10 years but the land is paid for, my electric is in, well and septic are in and now I'm trying to figure out what I'm gonna do for a "house". Possibly a construction trailer.

Here is the sign on Hwy 375 just by Rachel.
http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/5181/img1914631cj7.jpg

Coming into town
http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/5377/img1922711sg0.jpg

My shipping container
http://img66.imageshack.us/img66/3175/img1330131to4.jpg

View from Rachel....wide open desert out there
http://img162.imageshack.us/img162/7954/1131345imgvw9.jpg

http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/1240/1131349imgtg3.jpg

http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/346/1131350imgrt2.jpg

My niece Alex with her dad on Hwy 375 on the cover of Concealed Carry Magazine (I took the pic)
http://img79.imageshack.us/img79/5978/tonyandalex27xk.jpg




If possible could you IM me specifics on how you went about purchasing the land? Was it a local process or online? As well as the cost to have everything put in? I wonder if you could do a semi underground home? Furthermore, have you ever looked at building your own home? It is pretty easy, once you have the concrete laid, which might cost a bit. Frame up the timbers, and then you are off. I don't know about your coding or whatever, but if I come through the way next year I could perhaps help you get her built, and electrical and plumbing put in, and roofing siding etc. depending upon what you want to do, and how much time I have. Anyways let me know.
Link Posted: 6/15/2009 3:34:13 AM EDT
[#24]
More pics of Rachel, the back door entrance to Area 51 and the front entrance as a bonus.

Lil' Alien Inn in Rachel, note the parking sign upper right:





Rachel space ship wrecker.  (Speaking of which: Wolfpack did you ever get your container moved like you wanted a couple months ago?)




Back entrance to Area 51, this is the parking/overlook area for the Cammo Dudes in their white Jeeps, they can see you coming from over 11 miles away.  The visit in summer 2008 marks the third time I've been to the back entrance to Area 51.  The second was in 2000 and the first was back in the late '80's.  On my first trip to Area 51, you could then drive all the way to almost the top of the hill to where the guard shack is located another mile or so up the back door entrance road.  I told the guard I wanted to visit the Groom Mine area, pretending to not know about Area 51, but he wasn't having any and we ended up talking about it anyway.  This was years before Glen Campbell (no relation to the singer) or Lazar made Area 51 a household name.  



A couple of the signs at the actual border:






Border sensor suite on tower, this was located up on the hill to the left of the road as you're coming in and on the opposite side where the cammo dudes are parked.  Note that the camera is pointing straight down the 11 mile road across the valley that you come in on.




The "front" entrance to Area 51; this is the entrance to the Nevada Test Site, about 60 miles away from the back entrance to Area 51.  The town of Mercury is in the background.  This entrance is used for most logistics, supply and construction materials for Area 51 since the '50's.  


Link Posted: 6/15/2009 3:50:45 AM EDT
[#25]
I work at one of the closest locations to Area 51 (Creech AFB, NV), and I have never seen anything that can not be explained.
Link Posted: 6/15/2009 4:02:20 AM EDT
[#26]



Quoted:


My guess is, as soon as the name Area 51 became common knowledge, the majority of really secret operations were moved elsewhere and Area 51 became a decoy.


Area 52...



 
Link Posted: 6/15/2009 9:42:36 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 6/15/2009 9:49:28 AM EDT
[#28]
Does Mercury have residents? Any pics of said area? So largely the back entrance to Area 51 is the most known and watched, well the front is the one into the test zone right? Any more pics of this area?
Link Posted: 6/15/2009 10:04:25 AM EDT
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I wonder if Wackenhut guys are paid good?


Wackenhut is no longer Wackenhut.  It is now Group 4 Securicor.  The Wackenhut name went away this June.  As per standard .Gov contracts regarding security at this level, I would surmise upwards of $25/hr is what they are making.  The G4S guys on the USCBP transport contract are making $24/hr.

I know a guy that claimed to have worked out there and he stated the pay rate was in excess of $90/hr, but then again he also claimed to have HALO'd out of a Blackhawk, that his DD214 was so secret Bush had to call him on the phone just to get a look at it, and he was on a 72hr alert to "prep his team and stabilize Iraq".  Said individual also let it be know that his MOS had been "tac-ops".  He's a bout 5'4"/250, rides a Harley and claims to have worked for "Blackhawk" in Iraq.

There are a few and I mean a FEW actual high speed dudes working for G4S but the vast majority are....meh.




Link Posted: 6/15/2009 10:04:47 AM EDT
[#30]
if you fly from phoenix into Burbank you cross the very bottom of Area 51 as part of the flight path, thats what the pilot says anyway.
51 was good for testing planes and hiding stolen technology during the cold war
Link Posted: 6/15/2009 10:14:52 AM EDT
[#31]
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They had to re open it so the aliens could guard the birf certififate.



Link Posted: 6/15/2009 10:23:29 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 6/15/2009 10:24:55 AM EDT
[#33]
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They have been building like crazy at Area 51, new hangers going up and alot of construction. All of it can be seen from new satellite images that some groups pay the Russians to take for them. There is one such 0.5m resolution image that is about to be taken once Dreamland Resort gets enough people to chip in for it. If you look at that link you can see the 2007 image.


Pics are down!


I saw that too, had to resist taking out the old in foil hat
Link Posted: 6/15/2009 10:30:23 AM EDT
[#34]
Wasnt it moved to some AFB in north Colorado?
Link Posted: 6/15/2009 10:36:12 AM EDT
[#35]
building my SHTF place out there


You're building a SHTF/bugout location on the edge of Area 51? That's either genius or....not.
Link Posted: 6/15/2009 10:38:05 AM EDT
[#36]
security is EG&G

As part of a lawsuit filed, very small parts of the security manual had to be declassified a while back... the lawsuit had to deal with the fact that there was illegal burning of chemicals going on out there and some workers got sick.... this was during the clinton years i believe... ask on dreamlandresort, they know everything.

shade
Link Posted: 6/15/2009 10:44:13 AM EDT
[#37]
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I wonder if Wackenhut guys are paid good?


Wackenhut is no longer Wackenhut.  It is now Group 4 Securicor.  The Wackenhut name went away this June.  As per standard .Gov contracts regarding security at this level, I would surmise upwards of $25/hr is what they are making.  The G4S guys on the USCBP transport contract are making $24/hr.

I know a guy that claimed to have worked out there and he stated the pay rate was in excess of $90/hr, but then again he also claimed to have HALO'd out of a Blackhawk, that his DD214 was so secret Bush had to call him on the phone just to get a look at it, and he was on a 72hr alert to "prep his team and stabilize Iraq".  Said individual also let it be know that his MOS had been "tac-ops".  He's a bout 5'4"/250, rides a Harley and claims to have worked for "Blackhawk" in Iraq.

There are a few and I mean a FEW actual high speed dudes working for G4S but the vast majority are....meh. Sounds like a real ba, that is the worst lie I have ever heard and I knew a teacher who claimed to be a marine, a gang officer, actor, singer, play writer, model and a few other things I asked for dates and they didn't correspond with his age around 50 I think.

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/img/02-07/0219altar.jpg




Link Posted: 6/15/2009 10:50:49 AM EDT
[#38]
I took pictures of these alien ships coming in and out of Area 51, the government is not telling us something.





Link Posted: 6/15/2009 10:52:04 AM EDT
[#39]
Ha-ha. I would kill to be an SR71 pilot, or would have. Wouldn't have just be amazing?
Link Posted: 6/15/2009 10:52:36 AM EDT
[#40]
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security is EG&G

As part of a lawsuit filed, very small parts of the security manual had to be declassified a while back... the lawsuit had to deal with the fact that there was illegal burning of chemicals going on out there and some workers got sick.... this was during the clinton years i believe... ask on dreamlandresort, they know everything.

shade


Is that the same EG&G that was Edgerton's outfit?  He took some famous high speed pictures of milk drops and bullets cutting playing cards, etc. when he worked at MIT (IIRC).

Link Posted: 6/15/2009 11:00:03 AM EDT
[#41]
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if you fly from phoenix into Burbank you cross the very bottom of Area 51 as part of the flight path, thats what the pilot says anyway.
51 was good for testing planes and hiding stolen technology during the cold war


Hmmm...one of the first briefings giving to us when we flew in Red Flag (I did it three times) was a BIG map showing the restricted area of Area 51, with the warning that we were forbidden to enter the airspace unless it was an actual "no shit, someone's gonna die" emergency.
Link Posted: 6/15/2009 11:46:57 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 6/15/2009 12:04:23 PM EDT
[#43]
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Does Mercury have residents? Any pics of said area? So largely the back entrance to Area 51 is the most known and watched, well the front is the one into the test zone right? Any more pics of this area?


More pics of the Mercury area are shown below.

Mercury is on the south side of the Nevada Test Site and is the main entrance into the Test Site.  You travel north and then NE through the Site to get to Area 51, you can follow the road on Google Earth.

Mercury used to be a bustling town when the NTS was testing nukes, I doubt more than a couple hundred, if that, live there now.  Most workers on the Test Site come in via buses from Las Vegas.

Mercury Pics:

Long distance shot from Hwy 95, the main road running on the south side of the Site:



Pic of Mercury, Desert Rock airfield (barely seen) to the left and the NTS nuclear weapons test NVDOT historical marker plaque off of Hwy 95:



Closeup of the NVDOT NTS historical plaque:



Holding pens for the libtard anti-American moronic dipshit hippies when they used to protest nuclear weapon test shots.

Link Posted: 6/15/2009 12:06:37 PM EDT
[#44]
Quoted:
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Does Mercury have residents? Any pics of said area? So largely the back entrance to Area 51 is the most known and watched, well the front is the one into the test zone right? Any more pics of this area?


More pics of the Mercury area are shown below.

Mercury is on the south side of the Nevada Test Site and is the main entrance into the Test Site.  You travel north and then NE through the Site to get to Area 51, you can follow the road on Google Earth.

Mercury used to be a bustling town when the NTS was testing nukes, I doubt more than a couple hundred, if that, live there now.  Most workers on the Test Site come in via buses from Las Vegas.

Mercury Pics:

Long distance shot from Hwy 95, the main road running on the south side of the Site:

http://www.rocketcityrockcrawlers.com/pubpics/2008_Summer_Desert_Trip/Al_08_02/07-12-08_IMG_0148_Albin.JPG_s.jpg

Pic of Mercury, Desert Rock airfield (barely seen) to the left and the NTS nuclear weapons test NVDOT historical marker plaque off of Hwy 95:

http://www.rocketcityrockcrawlers.com/pubpics/2008_Summer_Desert_Trip/Al_08_02/07-12-08_IMG_0155_Albin.JPG_s.jpg

Closeup of the NVDOT NTS historical plaque:

http://www.rocketcityrockcrawlers.com/pubpics/2008_Summer_Desert_Trip/Al_08_02/07-12-08_IMG_0153_Albin.JPG_s.jpg

Holding pens for the libtard anti-American moronic dipshit hippies when they used to protest nuclear weapon test shots.

http://www.rocketcityrockcrawlers.com/pubpics/2008_Summer_Desert_Trip/Al_08_02/07-12-08_IMG_0151_Albin.JPG_s.jpg


Really?
Link Posted: 6/15/2009 12:19:19 PM EDT
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Anyone else watch the series' on The History Channel, "UFO Hunters." I'm watching an episode about Area 51. It is interesting for sure, but all about ratings for the TV show. I wonder if the so called "Cammo Dudes." Wackenhut right? Are like Jesus Christ, Base we got another UFO Hunter out here. I'll be waiting for them to do something stupid?


I love the whole area 51 thing!

When I was living in Vegas a bunch of guys just had to take me out there to see it.
We get to the "black mailbox" that "they" painted white as part of the cover up and with in 5 mins. the trucks pull up about 300-400 years away and watch us.

As soon as we could see them these guys go  nuts.....
"SEE,I TOLD YOU" "IT'S THE MEN IN BLACK" ect,ect

I calmly explained to them that even Wal-Mart has security that would keep an eye on people in odd places.
They agreed Wal-Mart has no secret UFOs but declined to show me any more UFO sights.
Link Posted: 6/15/2009 12:24:25 PM EDT
[#46]
Link Posted: 6/15/2009 12:24:50 PM EDT
[#47]
Quoted:
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Anyone else watch the series' on The History Channel, "UFO Hunters." I'm watching an episode about Area 51. It is interesting for sure, but all about ratings for the TV show. I wonder if the so called "Cammo Dudes." Wackenhut right? Are like Jesus Christ, Base we got another UFO Hunter out here. I'll be waiting for them to do something stupid?


I love the whole area 51 thing!

When I was living in Vegas a bunch of guys just had to take me out there to see it.
We get to the "black mailbox" that "they" painted white as part of the cover up and with in 5 mins. the trucks pull up about 300-400 years away and watch us.

As soon as we could see them these guys go  nuts.....
"SEE,I TOLD YOU" "IT'S THE MEN IN BLACK" ect,ect

I calmly explained to them that even Wal-Mart has security that would keep an eye on people in odd places.
They agreed Wal-Mart has no secret UFOs but declined to show me any more UFO sights.



Lol check out the video i posted earlier, the one about 6 min in. I laughed my ass off. These are the guys uncovering a conspiracy. Oh what I would give to be able to listen to the security talk about it when people come in. I would imagine it is just like I stated earlier.

Link Posted: 6/15/2009 12:28:33 PM EDT
[#48]



Quoted:

I wonder if the so called "Cammo Dudes." Wackenhut right? Are like Jesus Christ, Base we got another UFO Hunter out here. I'll be waiting for them to do something stupid?







 
Link Posted: 6/15/2009 12:29:51 PM EDT
[#49]
Quoted:

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I wonder if the so called "Cammo Dudes." Wackenhut right? Are like Jesus Christ, Base we got another UFO Hunter out here. I'll be waiting for them to do something stupid?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v611/remulac/Motivational%20Posters/Lolwut-verbose.jpg
 


Just my opinion about what the comms between security guys would be like.
Link Posted: 6/15/2009 1:53:06 PM EDT
[#50]
i would love see the area
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