Arcom, Thanks for the information on the + p round information for the USC. Jest before we went shooting that day both of my freinds were both braging about the preban status of there carbines and how wonderful,practical and reliable thay were. The Uzi jamed about 10% percent of the time and all i could do is snicker when my freind would be cursing in a inbarrused posture trying to clear his reliable bullet hose. He,he,he,..as i was shootig away without a care in the world. The 94 was a different story as it functioned jest like a sewing machine all day long just like the USC. I found out today that the Uzi has went into shop for repairs and next time we go out shooting there will be two of us shooting the grey little beast. All my freind could say is that wire stock on the Uzi was hurting his face...sure, whatever you say dude. V2