I am just curious as to why most of you view the UN as a threat?  I am not very educated on the subject, but it seems like a good thing.  The only problem I would have was if I was an American soldier under foreign command, but if I had volunteered for UN service I would have no problem.  So, why is it so bad?

James

The UN has an annual Conference with a stated goal of disarming the world's population.

Your guns stand in their way.

There are many other reasons as well.  Check out [url]http://www.jbs.org/un/un12.htm[/url] and get educated.

I do not dislike UN for imposing law and order on some poor nations that can't help themself. But I dislike UN for imposing anything on me, on my rights or on my freedom here in the U.S.A

.....which is why you should never vote for someone who proposes to appoint former U.N. cronies to his administration.

The same reason you should!

In my experiance the UN is a confused man with a clipboard and a blue beret.

[size=3]Those are the most dangerous kind........[/size=3]
            [grenade]

did you vote for anyone in the UN?if they had their way,the entire membership of AR15.com would get an extended vacation at a re-education
camp.sorry I can't make it guys,plan to be under siege.

UN-moral
UN-scupulous
UN-lawful
UN-individual
UN-favorable
UN-American
UN-Cola
UN-equal
UN-available

The DEMS like then, do you need any other reason than that?

The UN is the most UN-American and Anti-American organization there is.  Need you know more?

"NW"  NRA/LMGOA

"I am not very educated on the subject,"

Get educated.  As quickly as possible.  You will shocked at some of the proposals they put forward.

The UN is a dry run for the coming world government.  

The UN is trying to take our US Constitution
and replace it with the UN Constitution.

Every right in the USC is taken away
in the UNC.

That in of itself is enough for me.

PS Rifleer1,
You live in NC and you sound like you don't
know of Sen. Jesse Helms.

Interesting reading.  I honestly didn't know any of that, but now I understand.  No, HANGFIRE, seeing I am 17 I haven't gotten into politics very much (yet, but am trying).  I am not a troll as most on this board know (seeing I have been around for quite a while).  Maybe I will look into Helms, thanks for the suggestion.  Get some communication lessons though.

James

The UN is a threat to our national sovergnty.  They have an explicit agenda to disarm every individual in the world except in his role or policeman or military.  I will try to find a link to their page and post it. In the meantime, here is General Powell's position.  We should be scared to death:

Thursday February 15 3:11 AM ET
Powell Signals Days of U.S. Dumping on UN Over
By Evelyn Leopold

UNITED NATIONS (Reuters) - Paying his first visit to the United Nations, Secretary of State Colin Powell gave assurances that the days of acrimony between Republicans and the world body were over.

Lavish in his praise, Powell, after meeting Secretary-General Kofi Annan, told reporters, ``I took the opportunity in our conversations to express to the secretary-general our strong support, the president's strong support of the work of the United Nations.''

here are some basic problems with the United Nazi's

1. they beleive that right are granted by government and are not inalienable. check out article 29 section 3 of the un bill of rights. which by the way billious clintonious believes gives a better definition of freedom than our own "living" document.

2. the UN beleives that national soverignty is a threat to world peace and must be bypassed or ended in order to bring their version of "law and order" to this wretched planet full of "sickness, poverty, and disease"

3. our treaty with the UN was established illegally because they were not at the time a soverign entity. the constitution provides rules of treaties. a treaty cannot under any circumstance supercede the US constitution. there are currently no provision in our treaty with the UN to pull out.

4. the UN whishes to assert itself as a world governing body by imposing its own taxes, military force, courts, and legislative body. this is obviously a danger to national sovereignty.

5.  the UN was formed by a former nazi and communist supporters. i apologize for not remembering who they were, but you should also check into the UN history.

6. the communist party beleived that the UN was just as effective at destroying us "capatalists" as they were.

this is all i can think of for now. both Democuns and Republicrats support the UN. however sen. Ron paul (R) from texas has rallied against them. he should have more info on his website

The UN is meeting on the "problem" of small arms in New York City the second week of July this year.

From their web site:
"Once concluded, the draft Protocol will provide an international law enforcement mechanism for crime prevention and the prosecution of traffickers.  The Protocol may include articles establishing internationally recognized standards and provisions regarding marking, registration and traceability of firearms."

Here is a link to their page:

[url]http://www.un.org/Depts/dda/CAB/smallarms/about.htm[/url]

Roger that James, editing reply now!

Because they suck! You're getting the reasons already on the other posts. Those godless, new-world-order, globalization, hyphenated-culture gun grabbers can kiss my American a$$. I rarely agree with Pat Buchanan but he is spot-on about the UN. Like TJ said, we should avoid "entangling alliances".

What looks good on a bullet-ridden corpse? A blue helmet.  Molon Labe! [sniper]

Because they want to run the world and take away my Constistutional Rights, I don't want to pay into their World Tax proposal either. I don't like the idea of US troops being under foreign commanders. I don't want foreign commie troops acting as local police in the US.

I could go on forever with my reasons.

Actually, I can think of 666 reasons why I hate the UN.

What I really want to know is why does the US, being the suckers we are, keep paying most of the operating costs for the UN, did you guys vote our tax money be spent on such foolishness?

When I think of the UN the word "sinister" comes to mind.  I'm proud that we subsidize a body that votes against us every chance it gets.  The rest of the world envies us and is at war with us but we are too stupid to realize it!  Did any UN countries offer to help out Seattle and Tacoma after their earthquake? No.  Do they ever help us?  No.  I'll bet the US is still sending money to India and Turkey, though.  Was it the World Trade Organization that put together the Kyoto Treaty that Gore negotiated and went down 99-0 in the Senate?  I'm glad the Japanese and Al Gore wanted to get rid of diesel (who cares about farmers, truckdrivers, and our economy anyway?).  
Another point, I believe it is the Japanese who are the real pushers of the worldwide gun ban.  Obviously, they know that gun ownership is the last stumbling block to a one world government.  A disarmed people are a little easier to push around, hai?  If you don't think we can be enslaved, read about what FDR did to Americans of Asian decent during WW2.  Those people were Americans who lost every thing they owned when they were forced into concentration camps (sorry, "internment camps").  I'll bet most of the people on this board would have said "uhh, f*ck you very much, please say hello to my little friend!"  But those people didn't have the choice (it did work out in the end- they lost all their possesions and the government paid survivors a whopping $5000 after 55 years).  By the way, I can't wait until August 6th and 9th for our annual apology to the f*cking Japanese for ending the war they started.
I'm afraid the UN is winning.  We are they last major power that owns guns and is free.  Two quotes:
"We will either hang together or hang separately" - Ben Franklin
"What a revoltin' development!" - Thing from The Fantastic Four

If Klintler would have been President for another 4 years he probably would have signed over US soveriegnty to the UN.  

Rifleer, go to the UN main page http://www.un.org/english/  Poke around on here and read when you have some time.  The sheep are so uninformed and so damn lazy the UN does'nt even need to hide there agenda anymore.  It's all right there, written out for you and anyone else who can read more than 3 sentences at one time.  The sheep will wait for the socialist in the press to tell them if anything is wrong, but that will never happen because the press is all for the UN agenda.

Beerslayer, the UN is meeting in NYC to talk about global disarmament not any specific problem in NYC.  

And just so everybody knows, we are talking about global disarmament and we are talking about even revolvers, here is the first paragraph of the UN link provided in the post above:



Make no mistake about what is going on here people.

Because they are trying to overthrow the constitution that so many died for.

If you had to ask.....they you must really not have known.

Did a paper once in college about the UN and world government. If I recall right, the 'test' topic was how would a world government be formed, what orginization would it be ...and something else.  I do know that I got very good passing grade.

I basically told the political science prof that the best organization to lead to a world govt was the UN since a similer set up like the US govt, legeslative, executive & judicial.  Ah, .....the other part of the question had to deal w/ sovrenty(sp) and how that was what would keep the world govt from becoming a reality. "The 'haves'" of the world wouldn't like "The 'have nots'" telling them what to do (3rd world telling developed what to do) and the 3rd world doesn't like hearing the developed 'don't do this' don't do that.  The 3rd world nations want the power, money and so on of the developed nations over night.  DOsn't work that way.

Look at the world.  How many are 'world powers'?  Russia, China, USofA, Britain, France, Germany, Japan(?), Canada(?).  There are more, but I mean which have a large military machine?  Not many nations do.  If they can't beat us on the battle feild, they're gonna try at the bargining table.

Maybe someday there will be a world govt, but it has to be set up more fairly, equally and so on.  If it was set up like the US constitution (federal and state powers)  but in this case, would be (world govt and country powers).  A lot of IF's.......and that paper was based on IF's too......

(It won't be anytime in my lifetime.  That I'm quite sure of.)

Obviously, most of you have never worked with the UN, their troops or functionaries.  Don't care how evil they are, what their intent is or their desires.  They cannot accomplish them, hell they would have a hard time fighting their way out of a wet paper bag.

STLRN

i agree that in military strength the UN is weak. especially so if it were not for the US. however they have gotten this far. they will get father. they can do so with politics, which is more lethal than any bomb.

We got our own politicians(clinton) signing over by EO, our soveriegnty to them. They don't need to fight with sympathizers like him in power.

you have to remember through all this rhetoric that the united nations is made up of countries that divide the nations of the world into two "tiers", the first and second.  first tier are developed countries that have democratic institutions in place as well as a strong economy, second tier are the developing and/or developed without a democratic govt. different policies folks for different nations.  there is no blanket foreing policy for all nations. dont belive everything you read on the internet, think about it.  all the money going back and forth between all the developed countries that are allies and you think there is some huge evil power that wants to fuck that all up?  get real. admit it like i will, we hate the UN because they wear those stupid blue helmets. make no mistake, the US is in charge of the world now.

So the question is "who is running the US?"  We now have Colin Powell announcing that there will be no further bashing of the UN.  The UN has certain stated objectives which have really not changed through the years, including the policy on disarmament down to the small arms level -- except for military and police.

I agree that you can not believe everything you read in the Internet, however, I also believe that we can certainly get a reading on UN objectives and policy by reading the official UN Web site which is the link I posted.

Most of you make good points, especially "fight 4yourrights". Why hate the UN? Well, it's Hil the Hag's "Global Village" nightmare come to life. Look at Europe, er, excuse me the "European Union". European countries used to have character, their own currency even, now, they all use "euros" instead of pounds, francs, marks. Read a story about a green grocer in England who refused to bow to the EU edict that alll produce had be be sold in metric units, and still sold produce by the pound. Indicted and hailed before the criminal courts. How long before there's a new "Euro" language..Esparanto was popular amoung the commie one worlders a few decades ago. EU is just a mini run, tryout, for what the UN would do if they got their way. Basically, the want to drag us all down to the lowest common denominator. And they want to take our guns, because until they do that, they won't feel secure in issuing their really outrageous, we can't even imagine, edicts. Bottom line is do you care if some jerkoff UN president from east bumfuck, never saw a flush toilet til he got to New York, is taking our country's natural resources and redistributing them to the "more needy" cesspools of the world so that we can all live at the dark ages peasant level? Somehow, I have a real problem with that.