Curious what Arfcommers think about this idea I shot over to her:



The GOP needs to quit talking at as and start listening to us. I think if they could shift that perception, it would go a long way towards winning back some of us they've lost. This would resonate well with the more libertarian amoung us, and I think some of the 'moderates' who jumped ship for Obama might even be persuaded.

Whats the Arfcom feeling here?

They are too bust grandstanding on top of the tea parties to stop and listen to what's being said.  They sucked ass for 6 years and they think I'm just dying to get back to those days of yore.  Your mom is right.

She also owns an AR-15! I have the most tactical Mom of anyone I know!


I feel your point though. Basically they need to do a little navel gazing and ask themselves "Why did everyone walk away from us?" Sadly, they don't seem to understand its because they started acting just like the other guys.

+1

They don't want to listen, they want to move to the left to increase their voter base.  "Just think of the votes we'll get when we can make everyone happy"

I'm feeling like the GOP is not interested in what anyone has to say to them, but rather would like to dictate what we should be thinking.

 

I think she's on to something but I don't know about that solution.  Approximately 60ish percent of the nation self-identifies as very or moderately conservative.  Right now all those people out there are feeling leaderless.  Eight years of Bush spending like a drunken Democrat, expanding Medicare, amnesty, etc. etc. etc. and then the McCain candidacy has made the bulk of that conservative majority feel unrepresented.  I agree people in the GOP who don't get it holding a massive speaking party is a complete waste but rather than trying to poll their base to form a platform and develop positions or whatever, all people really need is a conservative leader who they can get behind and they can trust won't betray them.  The rest falls in to line from there.  The last two times its been tried (Reagan in 80 and Next in 94) it's worked with huge results.  It's as simple as that.

American Conservative party FTW