M2A1 US WWII 105mm Howitzer for sale (warning to 56k users)

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Posted: 4/30/2009 6:50:00 AM EDT

I saw this posted over on 1919A4.com

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M2A1 US WWII 105mm howitzer. One of only a very few in private hands in the United States. This cannon is capable of blank fire only. There is a 1" steel bar welded inside the barrel to prevent loading a live round. The howitzer comes with two inert rounds: the M1 HE shell and the M67 HEAT shell. 60 shell cases are also included for loading blanks. The howitzer weighs around 5,000 pounds. Breech/firing mechanism works flawlessly, as does the traversing and elevation. Armor shields swing up and down with ease. This cannon shakes the earth when it is fired and can be heard from miles away. Located in Paris,TN and can be picked up or shipped via freight. Photos below; video links of function testing at bottom of page. $47,000.

Thanks,
Marshall

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFOe_UC98Co

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmnYkp9uQcw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMOHolabgO4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dz_hTeFIRSA

Posted: 4/30/2009 6:52:19 AM EDT

[#1]

$47K for a gun that doesn't work?

Edit: I mean, it is a cool piece of history. . .

Posted: 4/30/2009 6:54:39 AM EDT

[#2]

Can you say REWAT?

Posted: 4/30/2009 6:55:40 AM EDT

[#3]

Somebody like Leno or Klein will eventually buy it...

Very cool!

Posted: 4/30/2009 6:57:50 AM EDT

[#4]

$47,000 and 10min of work and you'd have something truly awesome

Posted: 4/30/2009 6:59:05 AM EDT

[#5]

HOLY MOTHER OF GOD DONKEY BALL SHIT TACOS!!!!!!

want

Posted: 4/30/2009 6:59:10 AM EDT

[#6]

Could the barrel be unfucked? For 47k i want to blow shit up, not make a bunch of noise.

Posted: 4/30/2009 7:00:52 AM EDT

[#7]

Put it on the front lawn next to the flagpole.

Posted: 4/30/2009 7:02:21 AM EDT

[#8]

Does WalMart sell ammo for that?

Posted: 4/30/2009 7:03:19 AM EDT

[#9]

Quoted:
Put it on the front lawn next to the flagpole.

It comes with 60 emply shells for loading blanks. No idea how you make a blank. Maybe about 3 lbs of black powder??? Anyone know?

Posted: 4/30/2009 7:04:50 AM EDT

[#10]

Looks like it also has a pipe welded in...

Posted: 4/30/2009 7:05:28 AM EDT

[#11]

DO WANT!!!!

It would be no sweat to remove the pipe...

Posted: 4/30/2009 7:06:13 AM EDT

[#12]

Quoted:

$47,000 and 10min of work and you'd have something truly awesome

http://www.destructivedevice.com/pics/105mm35.jpg

I suppose it depends on if that bar was driven through the bbl and welded, or just welded.

Posted: 4/30/2009 7:06:45 AM EDT

[#13]

Quoted:
Could the barrel be unfucked? For 47k i want to blow shit up, not make a bunch of noise.

Know any 12,000 yard shooting ranges? (that's 7 miles)

Also, EACH explosive projectile requires a $200 tax stamp (non-refundable when you fire it).

Posted: 4/30/2009 7:08:32 AM EDT

[#14]

Nice cannon.

Posted: 4/30/2009 7:10:18 AM EDT

[#15]

I thing an American Legion somewhere is missing it's lawn ornament...

Posted: 4/30/2009 7:13:44 AM EDT

[#16]

Hey I'm just down the road from Paris, TN! That would look awesome in my yard!

Posted: 4/30/2009 7:13:56 AM EDT

[#17]

I wonder if its upper would fit on my lower.

Posted: 4/30/2009 7:14:26 AM EDT

[#18]

Cool, but this Howitzer needs more functionality.

A oxy/acetylene torch and a die grinder ought to get things back to where they need to be nicely.

$47k? A small price to pay to be able to keep the neighbors in check, in fine style.

Posted: 4/30/2009 7:16:42 AM EDT

[#19]

Fuckin' A!

Posted: 4/30/2009 7:18:11 AM EDT

[#20]

Quoted:
Know any 12,000 yard shooting ranges? (that's 7 miles)

You don't need 7 miles - just a place.

http://www.armamentsales.com/downloads/90mmDeGroat.MPG

Posted: 4/30/2009 7:19:10 AM EDT

[#21]

Posted: 4/30/2009 7:23:54 AM EDT

[#22]

Imagine the looks you would get when you tow it home!

Posted: 4/30/2009 7:24:19 AM EDT

[#23]

assuming you can get that little rod out... do they make a Beta mag for it?

Posted: 4/30/2009 7:26:17 AM EDT

[#24]

Isn't THAT the gun used by Al Pacino in Heat?

MOG

Posted: 4/30/2009 7:53:04 AM EDT

[#25]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Could the barrel be unfucked? For 47k i want to blow shit up, not make a bunch of noise.

Know any 12,000 yard shooting ranges? (that's 7 miles)

Also, EACH explosive projectile requires a $200 tax stamp (non-refundable when you fire it).

Actually, you can register the case. You can then reload it.

Posted: 4/30/2009 7:54:32 AM EDT

[#26]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Could the barrel be unfucked? For 47k i want to blow shit up, not make a bunch of noise.

Know any 12,000 yard shooting ranges? (that's 7 miles)

Also, EACH explosive projectile requires a $200 tax stamp (non-refundable when you fire it).

Actually, you can register the case. You can then reload it.

I did not know that. I stand corrected. Thanks.

Posted: 4/30/2009 7:56:33 AM EDT

[#27]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Could the barrel be unfucked? For 47k i want to blow shit up, not make a bunch of noise.

Know any 12,000 yard shooting ranges? (that's 7 miles)

Also, EACH explosive projectile requires a $200 tax stamp (non-refundable when you fire it).

Actually, you can register the case. You can then reload it.

I did not know that. I stand corrected. Thanks.

No problem. Lots of guys do that with their 40mm grenade launchers

Posted: 4/30/2009 7:57:54 AM EDT

[#28]

A new carry gun to finally stop the 9 vs. .45 debate. .

Posted: 4/30/2009 8:01:07 AM EDT

[#29]

It needs to be mounted on a Sherman tank.

There were some infantry support versions of the Sherman that was equipped with the 105mm howitzer.

Posted: 4/30/2009 8:04:38 AM EDT

[#30]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Could the barrel be unfucked? For 47k i want to blow shit up, not make a bunch of noise.

Know any 12,000 yard shooting ranges? (that's 7 miles)

Also, EACH explosive projectile requires a $200 tax stamp (non-refundable when you fire it).

Actually, you can register the case. You can then reload it.

I did not know that. I stand corrected. Thanks.

No problem. Lots of guys do that with their 40mm grenade launchers

Lets say that you have a few registered 105mm empty cases. How would you go about buying the explosive projectiles (as it pertains to the legal issues)? Do you send a copy of your BATF approved 105mm empty case destructive device registration form to the seller of the explosive projectiles, and then he can legally ship you as many explosive projectiles as you want?

Posted: 4/30/2009 8:09:07 AM EDT

[#31]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Could the barrel be unfucked? For 47k i want to blow shit up, not make a bunch of noise.

Know any 12,000 yard shooting ranges? (that's 7 miles)

Also, EACH explosive projectile requires a $200 tax stamp (non-refundable when you fire it).

Actually, you can register the case. You can then reload it.

I did not know that. I stand corrected. Thanks.

No problem. Lots of guys do that with their 40mm grenade launchers

Lets say that you have a few registered 105mm empty cases. How would you go about buying the explosive projectiles (as it pertains to the legal issues)? Do you send a copy of your BATF approved 105mm empty case destructive device registration form to the seller of the explosive projectiles, and then he can legally ship you as many explosive projectiles as you want?

Explosive projos need to be individually registered...

The 'register the case' thing does not work for HE.

That said, if you registered the gun as DD you could fire all of the non-HE projos you wanted (eg flechette, canister, or solid-shot)....

Posted: 4/30/2009 8:12:50 AM EDT

[#32]

IIRC - you can't own a breech loading cannon. You CAN own a muzzle loading one. I have heard of people taking WWII and WWI howitzers and cannons, welding the breaches shut, and then using them as muzzle loaders.

Posted: 4/30/2009 8:14:19 AM EDT

[#33]

group buy?

Posted: 4/30/2009 8:21:38 AM EDT

[#34]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Could the barrel be unfucked? For 47k i want to blow shit up, not make a bunch of noise.

Know any 12,000 yard shooting ranges? (that's 7 miles)

Also, EACH explosive projectile requires a $200 tax stamp (non-refundable when you fire it).

Actually, you can register the case. You can then reload it.

Do you know if Lee makes dies for it? I already have the Classic Turret press.

Posted: 4/30/2009 8:42:54 AM EDT

[#35]

Quoted:
IIRC - you can't own a breech loading cannon. You CAN own a muzzle loading one. I have heard of people taking WWII and WWI howitzers and cannons, welding the breaches shut, and then using them as muzzle loaders.

I've seen some privately owned breech loaders.

I think, but cant confirm, that you're wrong.

Posted: 4/30/2009 8:49:48 AM EDT

[#36]

Quoted:
Could the barrel be unfucked? For 47k i want to blow shit up, not make a bunch of noise.

this

Posted: 4/30/2009 8:54:44 AM EDT

[#37]

That dude's grandpa had a BIG seabag...

Posted: 4/30/2009 8:54:53 AM EDT

[#38]

Quoted:

Quoted:
IIRC - you can't own a breech loading cannon. You CAN own a muzzle loading one. I have heard of people taking WWII and WWI howitzers and cannons, welding the breaches shut, and then using them as muzzle loaders.

I've seen some privately owned breech loaders.

I think, but cant confirm, that you're wrong.

It might be a state thing... Or needs to be under a certain size. Or maybe one you need an explosives license and one you don't.

It was from a guy I worked at walmart with. He was a younger pharmacist and his idea of a good weekend was shooting holes on old cars.

Posted: 4/30/2009 8:58:43 AM EDT

[#39]

The M101s we used in Vietnam looked the same. There might be some difference in the sight and slight differences in the breeching mechanism but generally the same.

I have pulled the string on several of the M101s and they are big fun.

Posted: 4/30/2009 9:08:52 AM EDT

[#40]

The telescopes and all really make it a thing of beauty.

Posted: 4/30/2009 9:16:29 AM EDT

[#41]

There was a fully functional firing 90mm for sale in Tennessee last year. Only 120k. I forget the name of the company who owned it, they make suppressors.

Posted: 4/30/2009 9:19:03 AM EDT

[#42]

Quoted:
Can you say REWAT?

Oh ya. Do want.

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Posted: 4/30/2009 9:24:47 AM EDT

[#43]

Quoted:
The telescopes and all really make it a thing of beauty.

Yep....I'd rather own the telescopes than the gun.

Posted: 4/30/2009 9:47:59 AM EDT

[#44]

Quoted:
Does WalMart sell ammo for that?

They sold out last week.

Posted: 4/30/2009 10:00:24 AM EDT

[#45]

Want!

Posted: 4/30/2009 10:02:31 AM EDT

[#46]

I wonder. If you were to fill empty HE cases with tannerite, would they be going fast enough to detonate on impact?

Posted: 4/30/2009 1:12:47 PM EDT

[#47]

Quoted:
IIRC - you can't own a breech loading cannon. You CAN own a muzzle loading one. I have heard of people taking WWII and WWI howitzers and cannons, welding the breaches shut, and then using them as muzzle loaders.

I dont think it can have rifling either. Thats why black powder beer can mortars are legal. Smooth bore + black powder = a firearm in the BATFE's all knowing eye.