Quoted:
First off I didn't read the text of the bill.  Second, he will be gone in 4-8 years so what he does can be undone.  Third, my children are NOT going to any mandatory nonsense no matter what party wants it.  They can - as always - kiss my ass.

Quoted:


It's already passed BOTH Senate and House.

It's law now.

Quoted:
flame suite on



imo a lil compulsory service is exactly what todays me me me  generation needs

Quoted:


Don't care - ain't happening.

Quoted:



imo a lil compulsory service is exactly what todays me me me  generation needs

You can give incentives to get kids to volunteer, such as reimbursement on tuition.  Even then, it's a slippery slope.

But forcing MIDDLE SCHOOL, HIGH SCHOOL and COLLEGE kids to service there government is nothing less then TYRANNY.

Quoted:


or they could be forced to work a REAL job by cutting off all hand outs and entitlements. Then perhaps they will learn something about EARNING their way through life. This generation needs to wake the fuck up and live in the real world, not make believe soviet land where robo-Stalin and zombie Hitler hold hands in a field of fucking rainbows.

Quoted:


Couldn't agree more.

Quoted:
First off I didn't read the text of the bill.  Second, he will be gone in 4-8 years so what he does can be undone.  Third, my children are NOT going to any mandatory nonsense no matter what party wants it.  They can - as always - kiss my ass.

 

Quoted:
     

Quoted:


Couldn't agree more.

Quoted:



flame suite on
imo a lil compulsory service is exactly what todays me me me  generation needs

Quoted:

Forcing people to "serve" is not freedom.  That is a decision that should be left to the individual.
   

Quoted:
I'm not going to 'volunteer' for jack shit!  I barely have enough time as it is with work, homework, and classroom time!  FUCK YOU!!!!!

edit: never thought I'd see the day where I might have to actually break the law to stand up for what I believe in, and here I am, not even 21 years old yet, and I could very well be faced with that in the near future.

SEC. 6104. DUTIES.

(a) General Purpose- The purpose of the Commission is to gather and analyze information in order to make recommendations to Congress to––

(1) improve the ability of individuals in the United States to serve others and, by doing so, to enhance our Nation and the global community;

(2) train leaders in public service organizations to better utilize individuals committed to national service and volunteerism as they manage human and fiscal resources;

(3) identify and offer solutions to the barriers that make it difficult for some individuals in the United States to volunteer or perform national service; and

(4) build on the foundation of service and volunteer opportunities that are currently available.

(b) Specific Topics- In carrying out its general purpose under subsection (a), the Commission shall address and analyze the following specific topics:

(1) The level of understanding about the current Federal, State, and local volunteer programs and opportunities for service among individuals in the United States.

(2) The issues that deter volunteerism and national service, particularly among young people, and how the identified issues can be overcome.

(3) Whether there is an appropriate role for Federal, State, and local governments in overcoming the issues that deter volunteerism and national service and, if appropriate, how to expand the relationships and partnerships between different levels of government in promoting volunteerism and national service.

(4) Whether existing databases are effective in matching community needs to would-be volunteers and service providers.

(5) The effect on the Nation, on those who serve, and on the families of those who serve, if all individuals in the United States were expected to perform national service or were required to perform a certain amount of national service.

(6) Whether a workable, fair, and reasonable mandatory service requirement for all able young people could be developed, and how such a requirement could be implemented in a manner that would strengthen the social fabric of the Nation and overcome civic challenges by bringing together people from diverse economic, ethnic, and educational backgrounds.

(7) The need for a public service academy, a 4-year institution that offers a federally funded undergraduate education with a focus on training future public sector leaders.

(8) The means to develop awareness of national service and volunteer opportunities at a young age by creating, expanding, and promoting service options for elementary and secondary school students, through service learning or other means, and by raising awareness of existing incentives.

(9) The effectiveness of establishing a training program on college campuses to recruit and educate college students for national service.

(10) The effect on United States diplomacy and foreign policy interests of expanding service opportunities abroad, such as the Peace Corps, and the degree of need and capacity abroad for an expansion.

(11) The constraints that service providers, nonprofit organizations, and State and local agencies face in utilizing federally funded volunteer programs, and how these constraints can be overcome.

(12) Whether current Federal volunteer programs are suited to address the special skills and needs of senior volunteers, and if not, how these programs can be improved such that the Federal Government can effectively promote service among the ‘baby boomer’ generation.

Quoted:
Ok, it's law.

So what now?

When do they start actually forcing people into this BS?

And, is it actually "forcing"?


Like, are they going to come get me and force me into a uniform?

Quoted:
flame suite on



imo a lil compulsory service is exactly what todays me me me  generation needs

Quoted:


This law creates a commission to study mandatory national service, it does not create a program to require mandatory service.

However, when mandatory service IS enacted, I'm sure that it will include language to the effect that you will NOT be able to graduate high scool or college unless the educational institution has verified that you have completed the required service. I'm sure there will be a government database of registered and "acceptable" organizations, and of everyone who participates, for ease of verification.

Quoted:
We don't even have a handle on how many illegals are here in country, and Congress wants to try a program like this?

Quoted:
Unbelievable................maybe america won't make this mistake again in 4 years.  Tagged.

Quoted:
H.Amdt49 Pass Amendment to prohibit organizations from attempting to influence legislation; organize or engage in protests, petitions, boycotts, or strikes; and assist, promote, or deter union organizing.

Quoted:


 Obviously anything that is implemented along these lines would be mandatory for legal residents registered with the selective service (or its "civilian corps" equivalent.)  I fail to see how this issue and illegals are connected.

I certainly hope that those chowderheads in Washington unfuck themselves, wake up, and realize this is a very bad idea.

Once this committee is formed we need to hit them hard expressing our opposition to this.  I'm sure many of the college students who voted for BHO aren't really socialists, just idiots who fell for his rockstar image.  Hopefully they will reject the notion that they should be forced to do anything.

Quoted:
in before a certain member puts lipstick on it,,

I wrote this out in november of 08

How Obama is going to create his civilian home defence force 11/02/08
start with inner city youth in Chicago, LA, NY, DC, Miami, Dallas, Houston..
target 13 to 25 yr olds that dont have their heads on straight,
give a boy/man purpose and a goal, he will acheive.

give them a free uniform, free food, a place to crash, some walking around money, not much $100 a week
give them a sense of belonging
replace or become the father figure many of them don't have.

bring them into assigned housing, rules, set meal times. set class times, set TV times and bed times, if you dont do as told, youre out,,but,,let them back one more chance etc. carrot and stick.

get them in classes for no more than 3 hours a day. keeping attentions focused

broadcast on in house TV, with TVs in every room, hourly messages from the One, a computer animated program could put him in thier heads with different messages with out OBAMA seeing a single one.

group meals,
group classes
group chores
indoctrinate

Badges and medals for accomplisments
badges for showing up
badges for recruiting
medals for turning on or turning in neighbors or Parents

Self defense training to establish a sense of self and self-disipline
introduction to shooting sports
add the militaristic sense of unity and commaradre
Winnow our your future leaders,,
extra training,
extra walking around money,
a shinier uniform.
pick and choose your recuriters
train you Special Service Core of the new Homeland Defence Force.
yes, your puppy killers..

at the start of your third year, visits to local grammer schools, spouting the greatness of the HDF
indoctrination in the Govt day care centers
indoctrination schools where the Communists have already made an Iron Clad support system.


with in 4 years, there are over 3 million strong supportrs and members
double that every 2 years.

by the time he is apointed for his recordbreaking 3rd term..

your're America is long dead and buried..

Quoted:


Better get started , mid terms are in Nov 2010.