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Posted: 7/15/2008 6:40:51 PM EDT
Vigilante justice?
Okay, the(highly unlikely)scenario is as follows You have been tied up and removed to a secure location someone either has a grudge agaist you personally or they are just a serial killer, or serial "castrator" (as it were) They start cutting your balls off with a dull rusty knife, during the ensuing thrashing and screaming you manage to somehow get loose. Do you then use "reasonable" force to subdue your kidnapper(you are bigger, stronger, tougher and better trained) or do you proceed to deliver an EPIC beatdown resulting in a lengthy(possibly permanant) stay in hospital, or death? Some here seem to carry the concept of "reasonable force" to absurdity IMO if you witness someone committing such a heinous act there is no need for a trial  What says Arfcom? |
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Posted: 7/15/2008 6:42:22 PM EDT
[#1]
Kill
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Posted: 7/15/2008 6:42:30 PM EDT
[#2]
I'm for it.
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Posted: 7/15/2008 6:42:32 PM EDT
[#3]
Go to work with a pair of pliers and a blow torch.
Naked charge FTW ® |
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Posted: 7/15/2008 6:43:04 PM EDT
[#4]
Touch my wedding tackle with a sharp implement and you're going to wish the cops were there to save you from me.
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Posted: 7/15/2008 6:43:21 PM EDT
[#5]
Kill.
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Posted: 7/15/2008 6:43:51 PM EDT
[#6]
I would beat the crap out of him them smash his balls with a hammer.
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Posted: 7/15/2008 6:44:50 PM EDT
[#7]
innocent until proven guilty
I'm shocked by these answers. |
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Posted: 7/15/2008 6:45:37 PM EDT
[#8]
Asked and answered in another thread...
Medically, if someone started castrating me with a rusty knife, I'd be incapable of unarmed resistance quite quickly... That said, if I encountered someone engaged in such savagery, then I would intervene.... And use a legally permissible level of force... If they surrender, they live to see a courtroom... If they fight to the death, that's their choice... Under NO circumstances would I engage in vigilantism.... There is NEVER any justification for such behavior... Justice is about rational order, not being pissed off & wanting revenge.... 'Vengance is Mine, sayeth the Lord, I shall Repay'.... Justice is not about revenge, rather punishment & removal of the defective from society.... |
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Posted: 7/15/2008 6:47:25 PM EDT
[#9]
Yeah, I figured you'd say that
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Posted: 7/15/2008 6:52:35 PM EDT
[#10]
Dead Man |
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Posted: 7/15/2008 6:54:06 PM EDT
[#11]
He who shedeth the blood of man, so by man shall his blood be shed... |
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Posted: 7/15/2008 6:56:14 PM EDT
[#12]
I would subdue him to death.
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Posted: 7/15/2008 6:56:28 PM EDT
[#13]
Kill with extreme malice towards them
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Posted: 7/15/2008 6:57:42 PM EDT
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Posted: 7/15/2008 6:57:44 PM EDT
[#15]
Heh
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Posted: 7/15/2008 7:08:16 PM EDT
[#16]
eviscerate him then choke him with his own intestines.
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Posted: 7/15/2008 7:13:10 PM EDT
[#17]
its going to be tough to fight with a severed nut sack, but this is GD so yeah I would fight even if I didn't have the balls for it.
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Posted: 7/15/2008 7:18:12 PM EDT
[#18]
Personally I would like to kill him however I think God has it right when he said "Eye for an Eye". Unless you are an atheist then you really can't argue with that.
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Posted: 7/15/2008 7:19:07 PM EDT
[#19]
Theres no justice like angry mob justice.
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Posted: 7/15/2008 7:20:42 PM EDT
[#20]
Death. He cuts my balls off? Dude, I will torture his ass to death.
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Posted: 7/15/2008 7:21:32 PM EDT
[#21]
How is this "vigilante" ???
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Posted: 7/15/2008 7:28:31 PM EDT
[#22]
Why does anyone want to cut my nuts off
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Posted: 7/15/2008 7:30:17 PM EDT
[#23]
I'd get medieval on his ass.
Seems perfectly reasonable. |
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Posted: 7/15/2008 7:31:41 PM EDT
[#24]
YOU KNOW WHY. |
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Posted: 7/15/2008 7:32:26 PM EDT
[#25]
See Dave_A's answer above
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Posted: 7/15/2008 7:34:57 PM EDT
[#26]
Unclear, are you saying you would use reasonable force to subdue him? Or are you saying that you would partially cut his balls off in retaliation?
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Posted: 7/15/2008 7:38:49 PM EDT
[#27]
Yeah, and in real life I'm pretty sure they would make SURE you were tied down so well you would NOT be able to escape
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Posted: 7/15/2008 7:39:25 PM EDT
[#28]
I bet most places would except the defense of temporary insanity on this one...I mean come on man its the ball sack |
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Posted: 7/15/2008 7:40:06 PM EDT
[#29]
Kill with extreme prejudice.
Over a long period of time in which the person in question would witness his own intestines being eaten by coyotes before he expired. |
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Posted: 7/15/2008 8:13:31 PM EDT
[#30]
God would not... That matters to me... |
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Posted: 7/15/2008 8:20:12 PM EDT
[#31]
Cordless drill.
Kneecaps. SSS. Period. |
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Posted: 7/15/2008 8:23:42 PM EDT
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Posted: 7/15/2008 9:02:13 PM EDT
[#33]
Any more votes for "reasonable force" and turning him over
to the LEOs to be judged and punished by our legal system?
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Posted: 7/15/2008 9:02:36 PM EDT
[#34]
It makes for good movies and graphic novels.
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Posted: 7/16/2008 11:50:36 AM EDT
[#35]
Actually, you sidestepped it in the other thread as you apparently have also done in this thread The question is NOT if they wiped out half your unit(other thread) or if they did this to someone else, it is if they did this to YOUR balls The point I was trying to make is that you state many opinions here that are COMPLETELY UNREALISTIC, most members here see that, you don't seem to |
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Posted: 7/19/2008 10:49:46 PM EDT
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If he is in the process of cutting your balls off after kidnapping and restraining you there is absolutely no doubt of his "innocence"
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Posted: 7/19/2008 10:54:40 PM EDT
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1) I answered that one in the other thread, too.... LOAC is to be observed... A surrendering enemy gets the 5 S's (no, 'shoot, shovel, or shut up' are NOT on that 's' list), no matter how much damage he's done.... 2) Your scenario... No man is going to be able to put up effective resistance suffering from a half-completed castration... All the 'I would (Blah blah blah)' is internet-commando crap... You would be out of the fight, is what you would be... |
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Posted: 7/19/2008 10:58:00 PM EDT
[#38]
That's self defense , your post makes no sense really. |
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Posted: 7/19/2008 10:58:31 PM EDT
[#39]
Damn, I would make him suffer...then I'd get a tetanus shot.
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Posted: 7/19/2008 11:06:38 PM EDT
[#40]
No, you did not EVER "answer" it Now you are saying that no effective resistence COULD be mounted in that situation The entire situation was set up to pose the question Are there EVER any circumstances where an individual should "take the law into his own hands", this is the most extreme(fictitious)situation that I imagine has ever existed and your answer was...........oh yeah, you never did answer it
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Posted: 7/19/2008 11:10:42 PM EDT
[#41]
The question was...Do you subdue them using legal "reasonable force" at that point It's not "self-defense" after you "control" the situation, it's "retribution" or "vigilanteism" |
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Posted: 7/19/2008 11:14:13 PM EDT
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Posted: 7/19/2008 11:18:42 PM EDT
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It's NOT that I don't like your answer It's that you WON'T answer the question Let's try it another way Is there EVER, ANY sitution that calls for a citizen to administer punishment? (think, rape of your child, killing of your spouse\sibling....in FRONT OF YOU) |
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Posted: 7/19/2008 11:18:49 PM EDT
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AGAIN , that is a self defense issue , he has already cut you in your original post.  ETA Post threads about what you're known for here. Tha's why I click on them. 
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Posted: 7/19/2008 11:22:33 PM EDT
[#45]
Sorry, we may have different standards or training or outlooks Once you are "beyond" any further injury, you are then in control If you then "attack" them you are no longer acting in "self-defense"
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Posted: 7/19/2008 11:26:31 PM EDT
[#46]
We obviously do because a man with a knife trying to kill me, I'm not tying to subdue him. |
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Posted: 7/19/2008 11:27:34 PM EDT
[#47]
It sucks that I am "known for" that I think it is one of the most serious problems facing our country so, when I was told I was posting too many threads I mainly posted about that I have many other interests and I get along fine with the illegals(and hispanics) that I come in contact with on a daily basis, probaby owing to the fact that I speak spanish As a "group" they are doing a great deal of harm to this country, thats why I post about them |
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Posted: 7/19/2008 11:29:26 PM EDT
[#48]
DRT
No question |
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Posted: 7/19/2008 11:31:51 PM EDT
[#49]
No it doesn't I like your posts on the illegal problem we have in this country. As to this thread ...I just don't see where you are going with it. |
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Posted: 7/19/2008 11:31:52 PM EDT
[#50]
Hey, it's a dull, rusty knife and you are bigger, stronger, tougher and better trained than he is (the scenario was specifically worded to where you were in control after you got loose) But yeah, training\mindset do make one hell of a big difference...... |
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