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Posted: 11/21/2001 5:15:57 AM EDT
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Rules could be very simple, merely do what you want, harm unto none.
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Posted: 11/21/2001 5:18:12 AM EDT
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What about...
tithes church attendance the existence of a "deity" a holy text etc etc etc?????? |
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Posted: 11/21/2001 5:19:34 AM EDT
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Quoted: Rules could be very simple, merely do what you want, harm unto none. But what if something someone does harms me by making me [i]feel bad?[/i] I shouldn't have to feel bad--ever! That should be a rule too. Hehe. Edited to fix syntax--must not be in error when in the presence of the "grammar nazi!!" |
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Posted: 11/21/2001 5:29:15 AM EDT
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Does no harm, what you take from it is up to you. If you are a woman and feel harmed by a man opening a door for you, make sure not to do that to someone else.
If you feel harmed because other people don't follow your flavor of religion, make sure not to do that to someone else. Rememeber, it is *your* personal beleif, not what someone else takes from it that matters in this religion. As to tithes, don't need them. Church attendance? Ever second of your life you are attending this church. A holy text? "Do no harm to others" doesn't fill up many pages, but feel free to go for it if you feel the need. A deity? He lives inside of you, Do no harm to others, whats so hard to figure out about that? I understand the need to make it complex and mysterious, after all how else could/can we control the masses with the rest of the club other organized religions wield. It is quite simple, Do no harm to others. Of course if someone does harm you, god insists that you remove the sinner quickly and with a minimum of fuss. |
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Posted: 11/21/2001 5:31:45 AM EDT
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Wow, Garandman, I just realized the *HUGE* sin you just committed by starting your own religion, damn, boy, that is one whopper of a badie.
I bet that god really gives you a bit of fire 'n brimstone for that sacrilegous pap... {edited because I was laughing so hard...) |
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Posted: 11/21/2001 5:40:47 AM EDT
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Time was, when that would have been a major sin.
Nothing that could be laughed off. But I guess the Bible is a "living document" that changes with the times. |
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Posted: 11/21/2001 5:49:46 AM EDT
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You would need to add "Be intolerant of, and ridicule anyone who doesn't believe in your religion at every single opportunity you can think of."
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Posted: 11/21/2001 5:52:00 AM EDT
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Quoted: Wow, Garandman, I just realized the *HUGE* sin you just committed by starting your own religion, damn, boy, that is one whopper of a badie. But if the religion is called "DoWhatchaWanna" how is it even POSSIBLE to sin, unless you aren't "doing whatcha wanna??" [BD] |
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Posted: 11/21/2001 5:54:13 AM EDT
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Quoted: You would need to add "Be intolerant of, and ridicule anyone who doesn't believe in your religion at every single opportunity you can think of." That's a given for any freedom lover [:D] C'mon, if you're not in favor of letting people do what they want you deserve to be ridiculed. Right? [;D] |
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Posted: 11/21/2001 6:00:13 AM EDT
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[:D]
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Posted: 11/21/2001 6:16:45 AM EDT
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You guys kill me sometimes.
Do what you wanna is a new idea? Kidding, right? You want your church to be something like this" "The church has two tenets: the absolute right of freedom of religion and to do that which is right. Anything else within the law is allowed." [url]http://www.ulc.org/ulchq/index.htm[/url] Yes, I am an ordained minister of ULC, thank you for asking. TheRedGoat/Baphomet |
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Posted: 11/21/2001 6:16:49 AM EDT
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Forgive my ignorance but....where are you going with this.....????
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Posted: 11/21/2001 6:18:46 AM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Wow, Garandman, I just realized the *HUGE* sin you just committed by starting your own religion, damn, boy, that is one whopper of a badie. But if the religion is called "DoWhatchaWanna" how is it even POSSIBLE to sin, unless you aren't "doing whatcha wanna??" [BD] Yes, but we true beleivers know you are an agent provacteur, your religion frowns on this sort of thing, doesn't it? |
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Posted: 11/21/2001 6:19:27 AM EDT
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Call it egocentric humanism.
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Posted: 11/21/2001 6:24:17 AM EDT
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Quoted: Yes, but we true beleivers know you are an agent provacteur, your religion frowns on this sort of thing, doesn't it? Well, I keep hearing on this forum how I am supposed to "have respect for all other religions." And that MY "religion is so intolerant." So, I'm broadening my mind here. Work WITH me, hielo. [:D] |
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Posted: 11/21/2001 6:28:24 AM EDT
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I am working with you, I just am wondering what your church officials are going to do with you. (Just worried for that soul of yours my friend, thats all).
Now in my church, poking fun at your/our god is perfectly acceptable and highly prized, starting your own versions of a religion is to be accepted (After all, yourt god is not the same as mine, as I am not the same as you). If you can't laugh at your god, what kind of sense of humor can she really have? |
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Posted: 11/21/2001 6:40:34 AM EDT
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How can I "DoWhatchaWanna" if I can do no harm to others?[>:/]
Oh! The humanity![}:D] If everybody does what they want then will someone get hurt? Would "DoWhatchaWant" be almost the same as "DoNuthinAllTheTime"? Can we say "Amen" in this religion?[^] I guess so since we can "DoWhatWeWant"! What day do we have services on? Maybe Monday night so we can watch the football game? BigDozer66 |
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Posted: 11/21/2001 6:40:41 AM EDT
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Quoted: What about... tithes church attendance the existence of a "deity" a holy text etc etc etc?????? Tithes: Buy more firearms. Church attendance: Get to the range at least once a month Our "deity": Sam Colt? Holy text: An AR15 user's manual (or maybe the "Shooter's Bible") |
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Posted: 11/21/2001 6:41:26 AM EDT
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Quoted: I think we need to start a new religion. Sorry, garandman, but L. Ron Hubbard already beat you to it. [:D] |
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Posted: 11/21/2001 7:02:36 AM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: I think we need to start a new religion. Sorry, garandman, but L. Ron Hubbard already beat you to it. [:D] Good point. |
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Posted: 11/21/2001 7:16:53 AM EDT
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L. Ron Hubabrd -
I know the name, but I can't place it. Actually, I would have thought more people round here were disciples of Ron Jeremy (I think that's his name) [}:D] |
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Posted: 11/21/2001 7:29:04 AM EDT
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Quoted: L. Ron Hubabrd - I know the name, but I can't place it. Scientology, Battlefield Earth and all that happy horse leavings. |
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Posted: 11/21/2001 7:49:53 AM EDT
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Yeah.
Garand man can be our leader. We'll all move to little commune in South America,We'll call it "Garandmantown". Then one day he'll tell us all to drink the purple kool-aid.....wait a minute,that sounds familiar. |
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Posted: 11/21/2001 7:51:08 AM EDT
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The very nature of the religiion indicates a total disregard of others..."me first' is the rule. Holy writings? A volume of that uses bits and pieces of Ayn Rand's work, all taken out of context. We can then have clergymen to further misintepret them for us, as other religions do. The nature of the religion is such that adherents would be too greedy to pay tithes and so forth, w/o tangible rewards in return. Any day the stock market posts a gain should be a holy day, likewise the birthdays of the major porn stars. May I suggest having a sect that concentrates on the sexual aspect of life. You can call it "Tantric DoWhatchaWanna." BTW, as the founder of this religion and its Earthly focus, are you going to claim infallibility in matters of church doctrine? it's worked for others and seems a natural way to increase your bottom line.
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Posted: 11/21/2001 8:01:59 AM EDT
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Quoted: The very nature of the religiion indicates a total disregard of others..."me first' is the rule. Holy writings? A volume of that uses bits and pieces of Ayn Rand's work, all taken out of context. We can then have clergymen to further misintepret them for us, as other religions do. The nature of the religion is such that adherents would be too greedy to pay tithes and so forth, w/o tangible rewards in return. Any day the stock market posts a gain should be a holy day, likewise the birthdays of the major porn stars. May I suggest having a sect that concentrates on the sexual aspect of life. You can call it "Tantric DoWhatchaWanna." Sounds an AWFUL lot like someone REALLY HAS already beat me to creating this religion. BTW, as the founder of this religion and its Earthly focus, are you going to claim infallibility in matters of church doctrine? it's worked for others and seems a natural way to increase your bottom line. |
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Posted: 11/21/2001 9:22:05 AM EDT
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Isn't "an' it harm none, do as thou wilt," the main tenet of Wicca?
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Posted: 11/21/2001 9:25:33 AM EDT
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what would jebus do?
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Posted: 11/21/2001 9:46:35 AM EDT
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Quoted: Isn't "an' it harm none, do as thou wilt," the main tenet of Wicca? Why yes it is. [:D] 'bout time someone picked up on that. And also 'What you do will come back to you three times' or something like that... |
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Posted: 11/21/2001 9:48:23 AM EDT
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Quoted: Rules could be very simple, merely do what you want, harm unto none. Very much like the Church Of Satan, in fact. I don't worship Satan, but I have read the Satanic Bible, along with various other books of that nature. (Yes, I have also read the "real" Bible as well.) I have studied several religions to try to be open-minded and find for myself what many religions preach, instead of hearing it from others, who have already developed their own opinion on these matters. What does this have to do with "DoWhatchaWanna"? I do not know. Although I suspect this is a GREAT amount of sarcasm on the part of garandman, I do believe he is finally headed in the right direction. [;)] Tyler |
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Posted: 11/21/2001 9:48:25 AM EDT
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Quoted: Isn't "an' it harm none, do as thou wilt," the main tenet of Wicca? With a STRICT rule like that, how do you figger they justify human sacrifices???? [}:D] |
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Posted: 11/21/2001 9:48:33 AM EDT
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Quoted: Hielo actually gave me an idea. (I know - I'm as Shocked as anyone [:D] ) I think we need to start a new religion. it will be called "DoWhatchaWanna." The basic rule is "Do Whatcha Wanna." But as with any of the other religions, it quickly becomes more complicated than that. So I need your help - we need to make up the rest of the rules for our new religion. Too late. It's called Scientology. |
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Posted: 11/21/2001 9:51:12 AM EDT
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Quoted: what would jebus do? Probably brush up on His keyboarding skills... |
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Posted: 11/21/2001 9:52:04 AM EDT
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Quoted: Too late. It's called Scientology. But Scientology requires that the followers be stupid, and rich followers must donate large sums of cash so L. Ron Hoover can afford the new yacht based 'temple' |
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Posted: 11/21/2001 9:52:21 AM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: what would jebus do? Probably brush up on His keyboarding skills... arghh...some dumbass doesn't watch enough simpsons. |
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Posted: 11/21/2001 9:55:53 AM EDT
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Quoted: arghh...some dumbass doesn't watch enough simpsons. BUAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHA ROTFLOL IF ever, there was a statement, that could be considered a paradox, that, my friend, was it!!!!!!!! "Dumbass" is their target audience!!!! |
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Posted: 11/21/2001 9:58:12 AM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: arghh...some dumbass doesn't watch enough simpsons. BUAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHA ROTFLOL IF ever, there was a statement, that could be considered a paradox, that, my friend, was it!!!!!!!! "Dumbass" is their target audience!!!! Hey pontiff, go check out the members forum and look for my latest post, I made you a present. |
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Posted: 11/21/2001 10:26:09 AM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Isn't "an' it harm none, do as thou wilt," the main tenet of Wicca? With a STRICT rule like that, how do you figger they justify human sacrifices???? [}:D] They don't do human sacrifices. That's like me asking you with all your morals and self-righteousness, how do you justify the crusades or burning women at the stake because you deemed them to be witches? Wiccans don't do human sacrifices. They practice an earth based religion where they channel positive energies to help heal and support life. There are wacko's who claim to be Satanists or align themselves with some dark craft, but these are the MINORITY and not the majority like you keep implying. That's like saying Koresh represents your religion and we should judge all Christians by his actions. Do you always preach such hatred and is this the Christian way? Or are you really this ignorant about Wicca and other Pagan religions? |
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Posted: 11/21/2001 10:38:11 AM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Isn't "an' it harm none, do as thou wilt," the main tenet of Wicca? With a STRICT rule like that, how do you figger they justify human sacrifices???? [}:D] Wiccans don't do human sacrifices. Do you always preach such hatred .... Wiccangunn - You are wired tighter than Shylock's guitar.[}:D] Re-fricken-lax. It was a JOKE. Comedy. Humor. Irony. I am not aware of ANYONE that does human sacrifice. But I must say- You defend Wicca as well as I defend Christianity. And to call the notion of the existence of God "pure lunacy" ain't exactly preachin' love, brother. |
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Posted: 11/21/2001 10:50:03 AM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Isn't "an' it harm none, do as thou wilt," the main tenet of Wicca? With a STRICT rule like that, how do you figger they justify human sacrifices???? [}:D] The same way other religions practice ritualistic cannibalism, no? |
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Posted: 11/21/2001 10:54:47 AM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Isn't "an' it harm none, do as thou wilt," the main tenet of Wicca? With a STRICT rule like that, how do you figger they justify human sacrifices???? [}:D] The same way other religions practice ritualistic cannibalism, no? You must be thinking of the doctrine of Transubstantiation, which is NOT Biblical. And I do NOT beleive in. (And i won't mention the "sect" that teaches it.) Besides, you guys have already established MY religion to be a "harm EVERYONE" religion, simply by having the AUDACITY to share my faith and vocalize my opinion. [:D] |
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Posted: 11/21/2001 10:58:18 AM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Isn't "an' it harm none, do as thou wilt," the main tenet of Wicca? With a STRICT rule like that, how do you figger they justify human sacrifices???? [}:D] Common courtesy requires us all to refrain from making disparaging comments about others' religions. I can only imagine the outraged howls had a similar jab been taken at, say, Christianity. |
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Posted: 11/21/2001 11:05:06 AM EDT
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Quoted: I can only imagine the outraged howls had a similar jab been taken at, say, Christianity. Ohhhh, gimme a break. Jabs at Christianity happen routinely round here. Just today we've had... [b]God is a "SHE" The concept of God is lunacy. I've been asked to justify the Crusades or burning women at the stake LIKE I HAD ANYTHING TO DO WITH THAT.[/b] Y'all need to apply for federal aid as disabled people - specifically, humor-impaired. Lighten up. Drink decaf. |
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Posted: 11/21/2001 11:05:52 AM EDT
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Quoted: You defend Wicca as well as I defend Christianity. And to call the notion of the existence of God "pure lunacy" ain't exactly preachin' love, brother. Hey, someone has to. And I'm not about preaching love, I could care less about that. Christianity is based on Pagan traditions (take Christmas as an example) and was custom tailored in the early days to appeal to Pagans... so as to steal them away. For you to attack the Pagan religions is kind of funny in that you're attacking the basis for your own religion. I've found that the vast majority of religions are nothing more than businesses. You give them money and support and in return you get "salvation". It's a great gimmick. No one comes back from the dead bitching that they got ripped off and you sleep easier at night believing you're going to live in heaven once you kick the bucket. I think the Wiccan religions are screwed up too. If I had to choose a new religion, I guess I would be a Jew. They probably are closer to being right than any of the European flavors of Christianity. |
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Posted: 11/21/2001 11:09:42 AM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: I can only imagine the outraged howls had a similar jab been taken at, say, Christianity. Ohhhh, gimme a break. Jabs at Christianity happen routinely round here. Just today we've had... [b]God is a "SHE" The concept of God is lunacy. I've been asked to justify the Crusades or burning women at the stake LIKE I HAD ANYTHING TO DO WITH THAT.[/b] Y'all need to apply for federal aid as disabled people - specifically, humor-impaired. Lighten up. Drink decaf. Perhaps some on this board need a person to set a good example for all. Any volunteers, Garandman? |
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Posted: 11/21/2001 11:13:28 AM EDT
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Quoted: Just today we've had... [b]God is a "SHE" The concept of God is lunacy. I've been asked to justify the Crusades or burning women at the stake LIKE I HAD ANYTHING TO DO WITH THAT.[/b] I never said you had anything to do with burning people at the stake. I said your claims that Wiccans do human sacrifices is like me saying Christians want to do similar things. Yes, both religions have done horrible things to their fellow man in the past, but you're (as usual) missing the point. I also asked if we should judge all Christians by Koresh's actions. The answer is obviously no, and that was my point. You've made similar statements about Wiccans in the past... about them being Satanic and you've brought up the whole human sacrifice thing before too. Hey, early Christians did animal sacrifices and I wouldn't be surprised to find out they did a few human ones too. For you to dismiss your constant assailment of anything non-Christian as levity I believe would be misleading, if not an out right lie. I don't hate you or even dislike you. I just find entertainment in poking holes in your religion. You're the one that makes it a constant topic on these forums, so I feel justified in taking a few shots. Nothing personal. And yes, I do find a belief in an invisible deity to be lunacy. Just as you probably find a belief in fairies, dragons, leprechauns, aliens, or big foot to be nutty. In such a case we have another glowing example of the pot calling the kettle black. |
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Posted: 11/21/2001 11:27:05 AM EDT
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Quoted: Wiccangunn - How would you like for me to refer to you as Ass Clown-arandman? Is it really necessary to call me names? Just because it's my opinion that believing in fairies or Gods constitutes a mental condition or lunacy isn't the same as me butchering your alias in a sophomoric attempt at an insult. Is this Christian of you? Would God support such actions? Just curious. I can return the favor though, if you wish to persist. I have a whole repertoire of tasteless metaphors I can use in reference to you and your religion, assuming you wish to continue on this course. I'm sure it was an oversight on your part though, no apology is necessary. |
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Posted: 11/21/2001 11:29:38 AM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Wiccangunn - How would you like for me to refer to you as Ass Clown-arandman? . yes, please. I've always found that phrase both interesting and amusing. Traits I'd like associated with myself. Yikes - sounds like SOME people didn't get their sugared cereals this morning. [:D] |
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Posted: 11/21/2001 11:33:09 AM EDT
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Quoted: Just because it's my opinion that believing in fairies or Gods constitutes a mental condition or lunacy isn't the same as me butchering your alias in a sophomoric attempt at an insult. . There's an intersting statement. Alleging someone is mentally deficient is LESS egregious than a sophomoric ATTEMPT at an insult. HAHA...I am LOL [:D] |
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Posted: 11/21/2001 11:33:33 AM EDT
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Quoted: Ohhhh, gimme a break. Jabs at Christianity happen routinely round here. Just today we've had... [b]God is a "SHE"[/b] No way - if God was female then men would've been made with their dicks on their chins!! [:P] |
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Posted: 11/21/2001 11:33:39 AM EDT
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Darn... I thought this thread was gonna be fun - not another religious debate. [pissed]
Tyler |
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