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Posted: 6/4/2008 3:44:37 PM EDT
I dont know if this question was ever posed but,I was talking with some guys at work.If you were on the moon, or actually an atmosphere with no oxygen, would you be able to fire a weapon. I thought no since there would be no oxygen to feed the combustion of the powder. Im not even sure the primer would detonate. Then My buddy said " How do you explain rocket propulsion in outer space" I said " Fuck you, get back to work or you're fired!
 Well , what do you think ? guns on the moon or not? |
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Posted: 6/4/2008 3:45:49 PM EDT
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Well then, you sir, completely fucking FAIL. The propellant has its own oxidizer. And, AGNTSA.
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Posted: 6/4/2008 3:45:58 PM EDT
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This came up last week... They would work. Everything is self contained.
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Posted: 6/4/2008 3:46:21 PM EDT
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The oxidizer is in the gun powder. |
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Posted: 6/4/2008 3:46:27 PM EDT
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There's air in a cartridge, so I don't see why not. Bullets will fire underwater. But I would think if you fired a bullet in space, it would never stop unless it hit something.
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Posted: 6/4/2008 3:47:14 PM EDT
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Actually, if you tried to fire a gun in zero gravity both you and the bullet would be propelled in opposite directions at the same speed.
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Posted: 6/4/2008 3:47:15 PM EDT
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Oh, holy crap.
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Posted: 6/4/2008 3:47:16 PM EDT
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Rocket fuel is largely made of oxygen.
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Posted: 6/4/2008 3:48:02 PM EDT
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Oh, holy crap, again. You're not serious, are you? What kind of diet are you on that got you down to 55 grains of weight? |
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Posted: 6/4/2008 3:48:06 PM EDT
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Gunpowder reacts with itself, not with oxygen from the air. Guns will work in space, or in a pure nitrogen environment, or underwater
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Posted: 6/4/2008 3:48:33 PM EDT
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Jesus H. Christ this thread is full of the FAIL. Are "you" and the projectile the same mass? No. You would not fly backwards at the same speed the bullet goes forward. |
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Posted: 6/4/2008 3:48:57 PM EDT
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Quoted for fail. You'd be propelled in opposite directions with the same momentum, which is mass*velocity. Not the same velocity. |
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Posted: 6/4/2008 3:49:19 PM EDT
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On Earth, a bullet won't stop until it hits something too. One of the laws of motion state that an object will remain at rest or continue in a straight line unless acted on by an outside force. That goes for anything, anywhere. |
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Posted: 6/4/2008 3:49:59 PM EDT
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You fail too. Ponyboy didn't say the same momentum. He said speed. FAIL. |
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Posted: 6/4/2008 3:50:09 PM EDT
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Likely the 10th time I've posted this:
Nitro-cellulose is self oxidizing, guns would fire just fine in a hard vac |
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Posted: 6/4/2008 3:50:30 PM EDT
[#15]
What if you're standing on a treadmill when you fire?
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Posted: 6/4/2008 3:51:08 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/4/2008 3:51:27 PM EDT
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You managed to read my post without reading my post. I was correcting Ponyboy, not agreeing with him. |
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Posted: 6/4/2008 3:51:35 PM EDT
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You would fly backwards, and the bullet would drop straight down. |
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Posted: 6/4/2008 3:51:59 PM EDT
[#19]
Of course I'm not serious. I just wanted to see how much shit I could stir up. 
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Posted: 6/4/2008 3:52:12 PM EDT
[#20]
I think he was confused by the fact that you included my post in the quote section. That confused me for a minute too. |
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Posted: 6/4/2008 3:52:29 PM EDT
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All points covered already.
* Propellant in cartridge is partially made up of an oxidizer. So yes, it would fire. * Rocket fuel is largely liquid oxygen, thats why that shit works. * Shooting a gun in zero gravity would propel both you and the bullet in opposite directions at the same speed. * In zero gravity, bullet would travel until it hit something, and then other things could happen, but off topic... * Shooting a gun on the moon where gravity is minimal would probably throw you off balance if you didn't have a good footing. |
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Posted: 6/4/2008 3:52:49 PM EDT
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Well, you're doing a pretty crappy job of it, giving yourself away so early in the game. |
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Posted: 6/4/2008 3:52:49 PM EDT
[#23]
Double tap.
. . . er . . . controlled pair. |
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Posted: 6/4/2008 3:53:07 PM EDT
[#24]
Jesus, this thread brings out the FAIL.
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Posted: 6/4/2008 3:53:14 PM EDT
[#25]
Ah, a misunderstanding. Not complete FAIL. I thought that's why you quoted the other dude, to correct him for some reason. You should have been more specific. We'll call it even.
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Posted: 6/4/2008 3:53:48 PM EDT
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+1[roger that] FAIL (over) |
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Posted: 6/4/2008 3:54:10 PM EDT
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Um...............gravity, Einstien? |
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Posted: 6/4/2008 3:54:14 PM EDT
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Dude, you don't know this place very well. Somebody will be along in a minute to start arguing that I'm right anyway. |
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Posted: 6/4/2008 3:54:23 PM EDT
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What if your dog stuck it's wet nose in your ass when you shot the gun. You may or may not enjoy that.
(If you have to ask, you missed a hell of a thread) |
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Posted: 6/4/2008 3:55:03 PM EDT
[#30]
Yeah. It hits the ground. It's hitting something, Sir Isaac Newton. |
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Posted: 6/4/2008 3:56:23 PM EDT
[#31]
I just clicked the closest one that contained the statement
Already happened, on the previous page:
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Posted: 6/4/2008 3:56:29 PM EDT
[#32]
well that makes you the  of the thread
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Posted: 6/4/2008 3:56:47 PM EDT
[#33]
Only if both you and the bullet has the same mass. |
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Posted: 6/4/2008 3:57:12 PM EDT
[#34]
FOR THE WIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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Posted: 6/4/2008 3:57:55 PM EDT
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What can I say? ...I've got a big fucking gun. |
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Posted: 6/4/2008 3:58:23 PM EDT
[#36]
+1 
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Posted: 6/4/2008 3:59:00 PM EDT
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Guns have been fired in earth orbit and the Soviets did it.
One Almaz Salyut had a 23mm Nudleman cannon mounted onboard for self-defense. It was test fired. www.astronautix.com/details/sal31678.htm |
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Posted: 6/4/2008 4:00:48 PM EDT
[#38]
Merrel and I had a debate about the avg IQ of ARFCOM, I win!!
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Posted: 6/4/2008 4:01:01 PM EDT
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Yeah........no kidding........because gravity pulled it there Da Vinci
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Posted: 6/4/2008 4:01:49 PM EDT
[#40]
Threads like this explain why people think water is a fuel.
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Posted: 6/4/2008 4:03:09 PM EDT
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And . . . gravity doesn't exist in space? Orbits would be impossible of there were no gravity in space. And G= 1/d^2 is infinite. According to that equation, you can't get away from gravity. |
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Posted: 6/4/2008 4:04:36 PM EDT
[#42]
MASSIVE fail. |
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Posted: 6/4/2008 4:06:47 PM EDT
[#43]
The outside force is gravity... |
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Posted: 6/4/2008 4:08:34 PM EDT
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The only problem you'd have with firing a gun in outer space or on a planet or moon with no atmosphere would be keeping it from over heating.
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Posted: 6/4/2008 4:09:02 PM EDT
[#45]
Not in appreciable amounts. |
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Posted: 6/4/2008 4:09:38 PM EDT
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We should see if the Mods will put a sticky up or creat some sub-forum where repeated topics like this are answered so we dont see 30 page threads on the same thing 3x a week. Example:
Al Pacino uses a FNC in Heat The plane on the treadmill will take off Bulllets will work in space So on and so forth.. |
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Posted: 6/4/2008 4:09:41 PM EDT
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 That's all I have to say about this page. |
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Posted: 6/4/2008 4:10:30 PM EDT
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A water-cooled system would pretty much be the only way. You could have it a closed system so that the water that boiled off went through a pipe into the spacecraft, or just into some shade, condensed there, and then went back into the reservior. |
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Posted: 6/4/2008 4:14:20 PM EDT
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Hmm . . . last I heard, you need to freakin' go 17,000 mph to keep from crashing into the Earth in low-Earth orbit. That's a lot of gravity. Even at a quarter of a million miles from the Earth, the Moon needs to travel over 2000 mph. That's STILL a lot of gravity. Plut0, at several billion miles from the Sun, needs to travel about 10,000 mph to keep in orbit. That's a lot of gravity. |
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Posted: 6/4/2008 4:15:10 PM EDT
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More Massive fail. The Earths diamater is about 8000 miles. Space "starts" at what, 60 miles up? real quick, aproximately what is the ratio of 4000^2/4060^2? |
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