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Posted: 11/19/2001 12:20:14 PM EDT
The woman who lives across my backyard and whom I've been secretly lusting after since April '00 is a full blown carpet muncher.

My "dream woman" introduced me to her significant other about 30 minutes ago.  Talk about deflating all my fantasies.  Shit!

She moved in about Jan. of '00 but I didn't notice her until April of that year when my wife took a weeks vacation and went to Idaho to visit friends.  Our 2nd floor master bdrm. faces her backyard and her master bath (single story home).

I was getting ready for work about 5 am that April morning and since it was still dark outside, I had a full view into her well lit bathroom.  This was the first time I had noticed this.  Sure enough she hops out of the shower and starts towelling off.

SHA-WIIING!!!  Wood, big time.  I knew it was wrong, but there was no way I could pry myself away from the window.  That was, however, the last time I did that.

I've said hello to her occasionally but never really wanted to strike up a big conversation because Mrs. Desert Rider would definitely not be too happy about that.  She knows what my "type" is, and Pam is definitely my "type".  I have a great wife and marriage anyway, and would never want to jeapordize that.

I saw her walking her dog today with a friend and asked if she wanted to see our puppies, hoping she would want one.  Actually, I just wanted an excuse to look down her T-top(?) and watch her melons jiggle.

She agrees to come into my backyard and introduces me to her "partner".  I almost cried.

She has a daughter, but I've never seen a guy around.  I guess I just never thought about it.

Oh, incidentally, she got smart about May or June of '00 and put blinds up in that big bathroom window.  I wouldn't be surprised if my wife walked over and suggested it.
Link Posted: 11/19/2001 12:24:04 PM EDT
[#1]
I could reply to this and explain why this might not be so bad after all, but then the thread would get locked and I would be sanctioned.  
Link Posted: 11/19/2001 12:26:06 PM EDT
[#2]
Quoted:
I could reply to this and explain why this might not be so bad after all, but then the thread would get locked and I would be sanctioned.  
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Yes, but you would also be elevated to the level of sainthood by some.

Link Posted: 11/19/2001 12:28:54 PM EDT
[#3]
Ok I will bite...


YOu say it deflated your fantasies??


In my book it would open a door to all sorts of new and properly twisted ideas!!!!

Hmmm lets see....

You your wife and Pam.

You your wife and Pam and Pam's friend.

I will NOT get into any dog issues as even I find that whole idea DISGUSTING.. I will leave that to McUZi or one of his incarnations.
Link Posted: 11/19/2001 12:30:35 PM EDT
[#4]
Quoted:
Quoted:
I could reply to this and explain why this might not be so bad after all, but then the thread would get locked and I would be sanctioned.  
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Yes, but you would also be elevated to the level of sainthood by some.

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Garandman, you have an uncommonly clean mind (or mine is, um, nevermind).
Link Posted: 11/19/2001 12:31:03 PM EDT
[#5]
You know there's such a thing as bixexual, right?

Actually, forget I said that.  Sounds like this infatuation has already been at least somewhat out of hand.
Link Posted: 11/19/2001 12:33:01 PM EDT
[#6]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
I could reply to this and explain why this might not be so bad after all, but then the thread would get locked and I would be sanctioned.  
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Yes, but you would also be elevated to the level of sainthood by some.

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Garandman, you have an uncommonly clean mind ).
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yes, I take it out and wash it daily.

Trouble is, I forgot to make a schematic how to reconnect the wires properly. [%|]

[BD]





Link Posted: 11/19/2001 12:36:24 PM EDT
[#7]
Link Posted: 11/19/2001 12:49:56 PM EDT
[#8]
You did mention that she had a child. That would indicate that she is at least open to men. I agree with some of the others that this should only open more possibilities up, not close them.
Link Posted: 11/19/2001 12:56:44 PM EDT
[#9]
This brings up an interesting point--

Is it cheating if you:

A. Watch?
B. Lust after her in your heart since she doesn't want men?
C. Hope to invite Her and her S.O. over for a little menage a' four?

Not that I would ever think of anything like that, just asking!! [:0]
Link Posted: 11/19/2001 12:58:22 PM EDT
[#10]
Quoted:
You did mention that she had a child. That would indicate that she is at least open to men. I agree with some of the others that this should only open more possibilities up, not close them.
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Nope, only in the dark recesses of my mind.

I'm hopelessly in love with my wife and have no intentions of screwing up the best decision I've made in years.
Link Posted: 11/19/2001 1:10:18 PM EDT
[#11]
Quoted:
Ok I will bite...


YOu say it deflated your fantasies??


In my book it would open a door to all sorts of new and properly twisted ideas!!!!

Hmmm lets see....

You your wife and Pam.

You your wife and Pam and Pam's friend.

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That's all fine until they get it on and leave DesertRider out of it.

Ahhhh militant man-hating rug lickers.  Gotta Love 'em
Link Posted: 11/19/2001 1:14:21 PM EDT
[#12]
Get Pictures!!!!!!!!!
Link Posted: 11/19/2001 2:21:04 PM EDT
[#13]
RECON DAMMIT!!!!
We need pics.
(Secretly hoping she goes both ways, aren't we?)
Link Posted: 11/19/2001 2:35:24 PM EDT
[#14]
Filthy lesbian beasts are as repulsive and disgusting as mincing fairy "males".
When will you all notice that lesbians, faggots, and "bi's" are all the same thing...?
Disgusting perverts.
Bah!
Link Posted: 11/19/2001 2:38:59 PM EDT
[#15]
Link Posted: 11/19/2001 3:26:29 PM EDT
[#16]
AHEM!!!!!!
"To each his own" in German, I learned from my dear departed Grandma......
I have said or done nothing Nazi here, you Defender of Perverts...
Quit calling people Nazis if you disagree with them, it is childish.
Link Posted: 11/19/2001 3:37:07 PM EDT
[#17]
I don't believe you!
Photos will suffice for evidence to support your claims. [;)]
Link Posted: 11/19/2001 3:53:03 PM EDT
[#18]
Get over it, ya freak! "To each his own" is a saying in many different cultures.
Link Posted: 11/19/2001 4:20:58 PM EDT
[#19]
Quoted:
Filthy lesbian beasts are as repulsive and disgusting as mincing fairy "males".
When will you all notice that lesbians, faggots, and "bi's" are all the same thing...?
Disgusting perverts.
Bah!
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Touchy, isn't she?  It's been my experience that hardcore anti-Lesbos usually munched a few carpets themselves in their youth and then turned militant anti as a denial mechanism.

DesertRider - don't give up hope! Look at Anne Heche - she flip-flops back and forth between girls and boys.  And she'll probably do it again!

When I was in college my girlfriend's tall, blonde, leggy friend who I always lusted after thought it might be interesting to see what another girl or a threesome would be like, so she asked my girlfriend if we'd like to give it a try.  "Repulsive" or "disgusting?"  Sorry Hannah, those aren't the words I'd use to describe it.  But it was a whole lot of fun!!!  Several times!!!  [:D]
Link Posted: 11/19/2001 4:30:46 PM EDT
[#20]
No, I have always hated lezzies...so much for *that* liberal theory..
And......I bet you wouldn't have liked it so much, if "Bruce and you" had had the threesome, now would you?
It is my experience that normal straight folks are usually MOST disgusted by actions of the same sex towards them......so where you all may be perfectly comfortable with 2 women going at it.....many straight women are most disgusted by the thought of some dyke checking out our arsch.
Are you as tolerant when a gay man makes a pass at you, Steel Rat?
Link Posted: 11/19/2001 4:31:21 PM EDT
[#21]
Quoted:
AHEM!!!!!!
"To each his own" in German, I learned from my dear departed Grandma......
I have said or done nothing Nazi here, you Defender of Perverts...
Quit calling people Nazis if you disagree with them, it is childish.
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So you deny it's a reference to Nazis or concentration camps?  Just a harmless saying you learned from old Grandma?  

What about the handle "Hannah_Reitsch"? Care to enlighten us all as to just who this little darling of the Third Reich actually was?

Your comments here certainly contradict a "To each his own" attitude.  How about to each *her* own?
Link Posted: 11/19/2001 4:37:20 PM EDT
[#22]
Lesbianism has been very trendy for a few years now, but I think it's on the way out. Gonna start seeing less lipstick lesbians and getting back to just the bulldykes.
Link Posted: 11/19/2001 4:39:45 PM EDT
[#23]
DScott:
For your information, the original Hanna was my second cousin.
I too, was a pilot, and at a young age.
After the war, Hanna went to Uganda to teach flying...so much for the "racist" theory you hold so dear.
Do your research.
Here is a link to the most commonly known facts about this brave test pilot.
http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/5460/hanna.html
Find the rest in her autobiography.
A little knowledge can combat bigotry, give it a try :)
And "To each his own" dates back to ancient Rome, you twits.
Link Posted: 11/19/2001 4:49:11 PM EDT
[#24]
Quoted:
Lesbianism has been very trendy for a few years now, but I think it's on the way out. Gonna start seeing less lipstick lesbians and getting back to just the bulldykes.
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As long as there is still a good supply of girl on girl porn[sex]
Link Posted: 11/19/2001 4:52:56 PM EDT
[#25]
Quoted:
... And "To each his own" dates back to ancient Rome, you twits.
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Was it in German then?  

I saw the website, that's how I picked up on the Third Reich connection.  Just because she was a wonderful aviatrix, doesn't mean she wasn't a Nazi.  

Your reference does yield this quote:  "Although her politics were not popular in post war Europe, to say the least, she did not hesitate to break the "glass ceiling" of women's aviation."

Your choice of a screen name obviously indicates a recognition of her accomplishments or and agreement with her political views. Which is it?

Oh, and if I'm a bigot to hate Nazis and all they stand for (dead or alive), then glad to be one!!
Link Posted: 11/19/2001 5:00:16 PM EDT
[#26]
Can you READ????????
Hanna was a relative of mine. I was a flyer too.
She taught flying in Uganda. Uganda is in Africa.
Get it?
NOT a racist, but a brave test pilot of the time and era.
Not all Germans of the era were evil.
Again.....GET OVER IT.
Link Posted: 11/19/2001 5:01:12 PM EDT
[#27]
This is why I love this place so much....Lesbians to Nazi's...in the same thread...lol.

Hanna was a kick-ass aviator for sure, and a very fervent Nazi.....but so were many others during that time...including some cousins of mine. Hannah was fearless, taking on test piloting some of the most dangerous flying contraptions of the time, including the first helicopter, a cable snapping bomber for the dispatching of balloons, a piloted version of the V-1...tons of other accomplishments. Amazing women to say the least....politics aside.

I'll just blend into the background again...see ya.
Link Posted: 11/19/2001 5:29:38 PM EDT
[#28]
Quoted:
Can you READ????????
Hanna was a relative of mine. I was a flyer too.
She taught flying in Uganda. Uganda is in Africa.
Get it?
NOT a racist, but a brave test pilot of the time and era.
Not all Germans of the era were evil.
Again.....GET OVER IT.
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What is this reference to her politics that were so unpopular in post-war Europe then?  Spent two days in Berlin with Hitler right before the end, and NOT a racist?  Sounds like she was a great flyer, but also much more... why deny it?

Even though it's obvious, I'll certainly agree that many Germans then, and now, were not evil.  But, I do question what the intended implications of your handle are- care to elucidate?  
Link Posted: 11/19/2001 5:40:31 PM EDT
[#29]
And just in case anyone is interested, there is this quote from and article on Buchenwald ...



Today, more than 1,000 former inmates stood in a cold wind on the camp's Appelplatz, the same spot where their Nazi guards once forced them to assemble each morning and evening. The iron gate through which prisoners were brought still stands, with its cynical inscription "Jedem das Seine," which means roughly "Everyone Gets What He Deserves."

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Makes a nice little tag line, don't you think?


See here for the entire article: [url]http://www.english.upenn.edu/~afilreis/Holocaust/buchenwald.html[/url]

Link Posted: 11/19/2001 5:41:00 PM EDT
[#30]
You poor simple minded creature.
Hanna was my relative.
I am proud of her.
Go hunt for Nazis somewhere else, you are barking down the wrong hallway.
Link Posted: 11/19/2001 5:55:01 PM EDT
[#31]
Here is a pic of the front Gate of Buchenwald I took in 91 or 92...

[img]www.milpubs.com/gateL.jpg[/img]

And a closeup of it. Backwards, but you can still read the writing in the gate.

[img]www.milpubs.com/gate.jpg[/img]


Personally, after seeing the shit they did in those places, I would in no way want that phrase tied to me.


Aviator [img]www.milpubs.com/aviator.gif[/img]
Link Posted: 11/19/2001 6:02:48 PM EDT
[#32]
Oh well...... to each his own :)
Link Posted: 11/19/2001 6:24:50 PM EDT
[#33]
Quoted:
Quoted:
You poor simple minded creature.
Hanna was my relative.
I am proud of her.
Go hunt for Nazis somewhere else, you are barking down the wrong hallway.
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Well, considering that the Nazis had exactly the same ideas about homosexuals that you do and that you have a quote [i]in German[/i] that was posted above a Nazi death camp I don't think we are barking all that far off the mark.
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well by that logic Baptists are nazi's to. they see homosexuality as pure evil and a sin.

NOVA5 (half-german myself)
Link Posted: 11/19/2001 6:25:32 PM EDT
[#34]
That's very strange, because I just read an account of the group of American GIs that got to Buchenwald on April 11, 1945, and this is what they saw:

"Bill, Tim, and I started off through the trees, down the hill to the front gate which was only a couple of hundred yards away. The gate was a rectangular hole through the solid face of the building over which was office space and a hallway. High up above the opening for the gate was a heavy wooden beam with words carved into it in German script, [b]Arbeit Macht Frei[/b]. In a clumsy way I attempted to translate the inscription to Bill and Tim as, "Work will make you free". The three of us headed through the gate, through the twenty or thirty feet to the other side of the building. We were slightly apprehensive of what we might see. Our antennae were up. We had been teased by bits of information, and we wanted to know more. The lane we were walking on bent to the right as we cleared the building. We had barely made the turn, and there it was. In front of us a good bit, but plainly visible."

From Harry J. Herder, Jr., at: [url]http://remember.org/witness/herder.html[/url]

It was my understanding that 'Arbeit Macht Frei' was the usual and customary slogan above all the concentration camp entrance sign.

I'd never even heard the phrase 'Jedem das seine' until I saw it here and asked Hannah if it meant 'To each his own' in German!

But, nevertheless, cut out the accusations of Nazism about our friend and compadre, Hannah_Reitsch, and she is entitled to have her own thoughts about deviant sexual practices!

I mean how do you feel about homosexuals? Whoa, let's not go there!

On a side note, while the Nazis were, well, Nazis about male homosexuality, there was never much of any threat to female homosexuals. For some reason it just never strikes men to be as offended by that, as by male homosexuality.

Eric The(NowThat'sSomethingToThinkAbout!)Hun[>]:)]

Link Posted: 11/19/2001 6:34:17 PM EDT
[#35]
Quoted:
And......I bet you wouldn't have liked it so much, if "Bruce and you" had had the threesome, now would you?
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I'm not the one that was curious about same-sex experiences - the girls were.  I was just an invited participant.


Are you as tolerant when a gay man makes a pass at you, Steel Rat?
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While I personally am straight, it just so happens that I've met many gay shooters - both men and women.  It all started with a gay coworker years ago who was getting the shit kicked out of him by skinheads and didn't know what he should do.  Others talked about whistles, mace, getting friends to walk you everywhere, etc.  I said that I carry a pistol and if I was attacked I'd just shoot the assholes!!  The lunch room went silent.  After work he came up to me and asked for advice about guns.  So I took him shooting.  And the next week he bought his first gun.

Since then I've given many gays their first experience with guns.  It's really interesting to see these people, who normally are liberal Democrats, get that look on their face while shooting that all of a sudden they don't have to be victimized anymore just because others are intolerant of their personal beliefs.  For me it's just another day at the range teaching the safety rules and giving a few pointers on marksmanship.  Plus I always bring up the fact that their beloved Democrats they always vote for are constantly trying to make it difficult for them to have the tools they need to defend themselves.  I like to ask what they think would happen if Gay Bashers got shot once in a while.

Right now a local indoor range is considering hosting a "Pink Pistols" night -

http://[url]http://www.pinkpistols.org[/url]

and if that happens I'll probably bring some guns and let them shoot 'em.  For me there's no greater victory than seeing a formerly far-left voter fill out an NRA application.  Plus, in contrast to many rude, redneck (straight) shooters, the G&Ls are so polite and friendly.

And, yes, Hannah, over the years a few guys have asked me out.  I just tell them thanks, but I'm straight, and it's no big deal.  But I didn't get all bent out of shape over it.  I guess I'm just as bigoted as some other people here.
Link Posted: 11/19/2001 6:34:48 PM EDT
[#36]
Quoted:
Oh well...... to each his own :)
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Well, if it quacks like a duck, and if it goosesteps like a duck, it's a duck...
Link Posted: 11/19/2001 6:37:31 PM EDT
[#37]
The following is from this site...

[url]http://www.english.upenn.edu/~afilreis/Holocaust/buchenwald.html[/url]

At Buchenwald on Saturday, a special gathering was held to honor the memory of the half-million Gypsies who perished at the hands of the Nazi death machine. About 7,000 Gypsies were among the more than 56,000 Jews, Slavs, German Communists and other resistance fighters, homosexuals, handicapped people and others who died at Buchenwald. The stark granite memorial to the Gypsies that was unveiled here this weekend is the first of its kind at a German concentration camp.

Today, more than 1,000 former inmates stood in a cold wind on the camp's Appelplatz, the same spot where their Nazi guards once forced them to assemble each morning and evening. [b]The iron gate through which prisoners were brought still stands, with its cynical inscription "Jedem das Seine," which means roughly "Everyone Gets What He Deserves."[/b]

"My blood ran cold when I walked through that gate today," said Heniek Wasserlauf, an Israeli who was brought to Buchenwald after being arrested with other Jews at a village in Poland. "I never wanted to come back to Germany, but when I got this invitation I decided to do it. For me it's a sign that in the end we won. They tried to wipe us out but they failed.

Aviator  [img]www.milpubs.com/aviator.gif[/img]
Link Posted: 11/19/2001 6:38:25 PM EDT
[#38]
*backs away from the folks on the Group W bench*
Okaaayyyyyy...have fun with the Rainbow Coalition........give my regards to NAMBLA
Link Posted: 11/19/2001 6:40:19 PM EDT
[#39]
Quoted:
*backs away from the folks on the Group W bench*
Okaaayyyyyy...have fun with the Rainbow Coalition........give my regards to NAMBLA
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Not a great fan of Homosexuals, but I despise Nazis.



Aviator  [img]www.milpubs.com/aviator.gif[/img]
Link Posted: 11/19/2001 6:51:45 PM EDT
[#40]
Yeah, to each his own eh?

[img]http://www.scrapbookpages.com/EasternGermany/Buchenwald/KremaTrolley.JPG[/img]


[url]http://www.scrapbookpages.com/EasternGermany/Buchenwald/index.html[/url]


Aviator  [img]www.milpubs.com/aviator.gif[/img]
Link Posted: 11/19/2001 7:06:46 PM EDT
[#41]
Quoted:
Can you READ????????
She taught flying in Uganda. Uganda is in Africa.
Get it?
NOT a racist
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Ummm, I think you may be a bit confused. Race is a social construction of reality. Because of this, race means different things to different cultures. Thinking back to history class, I don't remember the killing of many blacks by Germans in WWII. Now I could be wrong, but I think they did do some stuff to Jews. Because of the Nazi social construction of racial values, jews were their targets, not blacks. In the US, blacks just happen to be the usual target of racism. This causes the public to associate racism with only blacks. Does that mean if hitler lived in a jewish neighborhood, he was not racist?

If you are saying she was not a racist simply because she was in Africa, maybe you missed the whole thingy that occurred in South Africa. Really, I could care less if she was racist, but you can't say she wasn't one simply because she lived in Africa.
Link Posted: 11/19/2001 7:52:52 PM EDT
[#42]
WTF? If I found out she was a lesbo, I'd like to see her even more. Just make friends with her and you can see her nekkid (lesbos are known to like to walk around the house butt booty nekkid).
Link Posted: 11/19/2001 7:54:47 PM EDT
[#43]
Post from rig00red -
Actually the account is incorrect. "Arbeit Mach Frei" was posted over the entrance to Dachau, not Buchenwald.
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Not so, Rig00red -

See Auschwitz - [url]http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/7071/arbeit.html[/url] 'Arbeit Macht Frei' in wrought iron entrance gate; and [url]http://www.scrapbookpages.com/Poland/Auschwitz/Auschwitz04.html[/url]

See Dachau - [url]http://www.scrapbookpages.com/DachauScrapbook/KZDachau/Gatehouse.html[/url]

Theresienstadt - [url] http://history1900s.about.com/library/holocaust/aa012599a.htm[/url]

Assorted concentration camps - [url]http://www.rudyfoto.com/hol/arbeit.html[/url]
these are photos of all the 'Arbeit Macht Frei' gates.

So many more other than Dachau, carried this infamous phrase!

Eric The(WouldILieToYou?)Hun[>]:)]
Link Posted: 11/19/2001 9:41:51 PM EDT
[#44]
ahh Godwin's law strikes at ar15.com

granted it's a website translator, but Jedem das seine translates to "Everyone its" at dictionary.com
Link Posted: 11/20/2001 12:18:37 AM EDT
[#45]
Quoted:
*backs away from the folks on the Group W bench*
Okaaayyyyyy...have fun with the Rainbow Coalition........give my regards to NAMBLA
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I mean.... I meeeeeeeeean, I'm just sitting here on the bench, sitting here on tha group dubbya bench....
Link Posted: 11/20/2001 4:46:24 AM EDT
[#46]
Es wirklich macht nicht aus. Ich denke, daß Rudel einer der größten Warriors aller Zeit war, obwohl er für ein politisches System mich kämpfte, verachten Sie.  Hannah, konnte es unvorsichtig sein, einen bekannten Todeslagerslogan als Unterzeichnungzeile zu haben, zwar.  Nicht denken Sie?  

QS
Link Posted: 11/20/2001 5:00:12 AM EDT
[#47]
DR- I thought we wuz pals. You cant pickup th phone? [;)]
You have puppies for sale or sumthin? What kind? Chilidogs?
No really I`m looking for a dog.
Link Posted: 11/20/2001 6:10:27 AM EDT
[#48]
I agree with QuietShootr, it's not a good idea to have anything remotely connected to Nazi-era slogans as a signature line, especially well-known slogans.

Although, I can truthfully say, I had never heard the 'Jedem das seine' phrase as a concentration camp slogan until this thread.

Eric The(IJustThoughtIKnewEverything!)Hun[>]:)]
Link Posted: 11/20/2001 7:17:05 AM EDT
[#49]
Quoted:
DR- I thought we wuz pals. You cant pickup th phone? [;)]
You have puppies for sale or sumthin? What kind? Chilidogs?
No really I`m looking for a dog.
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Orale, carnal!

Check your email, then come on down.  I might even introduce you to Pam.  I'm claiming first dibs on the hooters, though.

This thread hung a SERIOUS U-ey. I don't EVEN know where it's going now.  I was just sharing the object of my illicit, twisted fantasies and BAM, people are discussing Nazi's.

That's cool, gotta luv GD. [beer]
Link Posted: 11/20/2001 7:30:41 AM EDT
[#50]
man i peeked in on this thread to maybe read some good stuff about a perv checking out his neighbor. i am very disapointed.come on is it bushy,trimmed,shaved?mellons,are they....well you know..how about some pics before she finds out youre a member here and moves away.....[sex] lets get back to the original lesbian perv stuff............
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