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Don't bet on pennsylvania.
If Obama gets the nod, some fairly racist union members vote for a white guy If Clinton gets the nod, your phenominal turn out of people who never vote doesn't happen. The black vote (essential to Michigan, Pennsylvania, Ohio, Florida) probably won't come.) Easy critter, the communists haven't won yet. |
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plus McCain is fucking pathetic
how many years will it take the dems to fuck up this country before it swings back to RINOs |
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McCain will just have to out Dem the Dems. The (R) base will just have to suck it up and go along.
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With this economy sucking more than a shitty toilet and the stupid fucking war in Iraq.........don't get me started, but I fear the results.
Bill |
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The r's have been on their knees sucking for quite some time. We really were hoping some of yall would man up this go round. |
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I am confident that McCain can beat Obama, but I am not sure that ANY Republican candidate can beat a Obama-Hillary ticket.
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The headline on Drudge says that McCain is going for the Hillary vote. If he has to do that to win and becomes beholden to that group for his office, there will truly be no difference between him and a Democrat.
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You do remember where the term "Reagan Democrat" comes from right? I don't remember Reagan being "beholden" to Democrats, or being no different from a Democrat because he convinced a bunch of Democrats that he was a better choice than their crappy candidate. |
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I have never seen a bigger bunch of fucking defeatists in my life. Just crawl the fuck in the grave already.
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I wonder how people will feel after 4 years of Obama and some real nasty economic times
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Maybe a McCain Lieberman ticket will steal the fire from the belly of the beast.
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Don't forget the guilt-ridden Whites who view a vote for Obama as an act of atonement. |
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Why are you bumping a month old thread? Do you have guns on EE you are trying to sell, or do you just want people generally depressed, nervous, and paranoid? |
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Because it is as valid now as when he posted it. Get out and vote. Especially if you are in one of those blue states. |
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That "base" is getting smaller all the time. |
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With Hillary on the ticket or not. Even Bob Fucking Dole knows what's going to happen in November. With an economy and foreign policy that looks bad, you don't run the old white guy that wants to continue with the most unpopular policies of the unpopular president against a braindead rockstar. |
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This is ARFCOM, is there a thread that isn't filled with depression or paranoia? |
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You guys are missing out on something very important.
There are so many people who absolutely detest the idea of either a black person or a woman becoming President, without even addressing the issues, who didn't much care about one white male candidate vs. another white male candidate, who will, this time, be motivated to vote against Obama and Clinton even if it's the first time they've ever voted in their lives. The turnout AGAINST Hillary or Obama will be larger than anyone anticipates. It will motivate people to vote against them in enormous numbers, ESPECIALLY in the months following the Democratic convention when ALL of the Republicans with an axe to grind will unleash the hounds. ALL truths about Hillary or Obama, as required, will be made abundantly and blatantly clear to people who never really thought about the actual positions and beliefs of those people before. You will see the mother of all attack ad campaigns, and THEY WILL BE EFFECTIVE. Obama is racist against white people. This will be made abundantly clear beyond any possible doubt or argument. He has had a long association with a church that preaches black liberation theology, and just now broke his membership with it for obvious attempts at damage control. Black liberation theology says, in brief, do not worship a white god, and all a white man can do to be acceptable to the follower of black liberation theology is to be ashamed of the color of his skin and apologize for it. Obama is a full-on, screaming Marxist if not an outright Communist. This, too, will be abundantly clear. Obama will cut our military off at the knees, and he's said so, many times, in different ways but the result is the same no matter how he says it. Obama wants to "give" us social programs like universal health care that will not be free, they will be hideously expensive, and the money comes from just one source: More taxes for the taxpayer. Obama wants to penalize those who are smart with their money, in the form of additional taxes for higher income people. The American Way does not exist in Obama's world. Hillary, if she gets the nomination, will be subject to tailored attack ads that will be every bit as devastating, if not more so. Make no mistake, whether it's Hillary or Obama, the Democratic nominee is going to suffer a major asskicking by means of the truth about him or her being presented to all Americans in a very compelling manner. That candidate will not survive when it comes to the final election. McCain will win, particularly if he chooses a strong and moderate running mate. CJ |
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McCain will take the win come November*-
1-You forget that there are many Hillary voters that won't go for Obama. 2-There are many southern Democrats that won't go for Obama. 3-There are many "Old School not politically correct" Dems that won't ever go for Obama. 4-There are no Republicans voting for Obama just to prove they can vote for a black candidate. Obama/Hillary- Dream ticket for Republicans - Hate/Hate Even More- doesn't have a chance. *This is can all be undone if McCain turns into a turd of a candidate. Wait there's one more thing- Did you see the Democrat's disastrous weekend over the Florida & Michigan vote count. It was so pathetic how could anyone ever vote for a Democrat. This can be, as it should be, used against either Democrat candidate. |
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Well at least SOMEBODY gets it! |
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We are in trouble, guys. "Our" guy is a total dork. He won't have the cuu jones to stand up to Hussien Obama. It makes me sick. The democrat party has picked a strident left-wing nut case? He is a gun banner and he is very ANTI-WHITE/ANTI-AMERICAN. He sat in the church for 20 YEARS listening to ANTI-WHITE/ANTI-AMERICAN PHILOSOPHY. I refuse to call it theology. I CAN'T STAND HIM.
I believe an earlier poster is correct. Many will vote AGAINST him, just because he is black. I will vote against him because he is a socialist. He will attempt to take away our guns, too. |
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I disagree.
I agree.
I disagree that A) it can or will be made any clearer than the Wright scandal and B) that it will matter one bit.
Water under the bridge. OLD water.
I agree.
It already has - and he still draws tens of thousands every where he goes.
I agree.
I agree.
I agree.
I agree.
I disagree. Just one more state, that's all they need. And this time, we do not have a lock on the South. |
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I am in a blue state. It was RED when I moved here in 1996. Since that time the Republicans has become as relevant here as a mouse fart. The state is in shambles and it has a dem govenor, dem controlled senate, and house. My 2 senators are Dick Durbin and Obama. It matters not one fucking iota if I vote here. Its going dem for sure especially with all the emasculated liberals, Oprah, Daley and the "Obama Church types" in the Chicago area. Yet I will still go for and vote for that sorry old fuck McCain, who should be out there railing on that liberal fucking turd (and I don't mean turd because he is black, but because shit comes from his oral cavity when it opens), instead of trying to "one" up him on carbon caps and trading, closing Gitmo, and taxing big oil. The RINOS are going to learn how they should have ruled when they were in power, instead of bending over for the dems to run across the aisle. You can be god damn guaranteed that this coming across the aisles shit won't apply when the DEMS have all the power, unless of course the RINOS are licking a shit trail to suck Pelosi's and Reid"s cock. |
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Just stating fact. It will NOT be a cakewalk and the General Election starts TODAY. But if you want to go strolling through the summer smelling the flowers and thinking life's all dandy come November, you're the one who needs to crawl back into reality. Or..... should I have posted "Hey have no fear, McCain's got this thing locked up already, so don't concern yourself with getting people motivated - it's SUMMERTIME!". |
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Your math is wrong based on ignoring the 2002 reapportionment from the 2000 census. Your numbers are based on out of date information. It would have been a Gore victory but not a Kerry victory. That map is a Republican victory as it currently sits. Bush would still have won without Iowa and NH. |
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Obama has a lot of ways to ruin this. I think the more they learn about him the more support he loses. The best thing McCain can do is quit pandering. |
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They'll just blame Bush. "The war he started and we had to finish" etc. |
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Anybody throwing in the towel at this point is a fucking idiot. First off traditional states for the Dems are not a lock either. McCain has a very strong showing in PA and NH for example. NH is not a big deal, but considering some electoral models show races as close as single digits, even little ole NH can make a difference. McCain could very well carry PA, and if that is the case its a whole new ballgame. 2004 PA Results 2004 NH Results 2004 MI Results 2004 MN Results Look at how close some of these states are, keep in mind McCain's appeal among independents and the divisiveness in the democratic party. Do not take for granted past results as future predictors. |
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Not sure what you're saying. The electoral votes shown are from current data and the map shows a Dem victory. If a state electoral count is wrong, I don't see which state is wrong. Can you say which state(s) has the wrong count? |
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Show me where I said cakewalk. I do see a lot of folks crying about how the election is lost already. Pure bullshit. Yes, the General starts today. I have no misconceptions about how easy it will be to win, but I also firmly believe we can and WILL win. Obama is beatable even if Hillary ends up on the ticket, and I don't think she will. |
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Just tell the truth about Osama, he is a racist whitey-hating, America-hating, marxist.
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Who's throwing in the towel? I'm saying it's gonna be a close fight, no landslide, no cakewalk, no easy win for McCain.
Most polls show Obama steadily ahead of McCain in PA: RCP And Ohio could go either way. |
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"Our" guys is a fucking WAR HERO and he is going up against a liberal lawyer (insert either candidate). He may not be what we want, but he is better than the two douche bags he is facing. I think as long as he picks a phenomenal VP, it will be an easy win. |
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Dude its fucking June, we haven't had conventions or head to head debates. McCain has also not be lead in the news because of the Hillary/Obama battle. I should smack you for even citing the polls at this point. And my initial comment was not directed specifically at you. I believe if you go back and read it it was aimed at the general negative impression people were voicing since the thread was resurrected from the dead. Oh noes, its going to be Obama and Hillary together and we've lost. Pure horse hockie! |
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Obama is NOT going to win Michigan this year. The white union workers that ALWAYS vote Democrat will NOT vote for Obama. Their loyalty is not absolute and with out them the Democrats cannot win the state. Write it down and remember it.
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WELL YOU CITED STATS FROM 4 YEARS AGO!!!
Well it's gonna be a long hard fight. And if The Beast joins the ticket as VP for Obama, it's even harder IMO. |
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Im expecting McCain perform poorly up until the election, it will be soo bad you will swear he is trying to lose
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I cited election results, not a random sampling of 1,000 people asked dubious questions. You know, one mattered and the other doesn't. Try to keep up. |
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The one thing that will clinch a certain Obama/Clinton win is if Conservative Republicans sit at home or vote for a third party ringer because they don't like McCain.
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I've been saying it all along and the doom and gloomers on ARFCOM just refuse to believe that anything but the worst is coming. Enough voters will come out to vote against a black man and enough voters will come out to vote against a woman that neither of them can win, even if they're together. |
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Electoral projections 6 months out are as worthless as a warm cup of spit. Most all projections are now based on polls of 'Registered Voters' and are not screened for 'Likely Voters'. This changes in the last two months and it is an advantage for the Republicans because Likely voters tend to favor Republicans over simply registered voters by 2-4 points. And these curent polls are ignoring the Bradley/Wilder effect too. |
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