Looking at a 06 GT0 manual, 23000 miles.  Its very clean from what I can tell.  No leaks, engine clean, etc.  Could someone run a carfax report for me on it.  If so please respond in this post or IM me. Any other info I might need to know would be appreciated.   I have to make a decision by tomorrow.  

Thanks

Bill308

is this a dealer or private owner?

how many owners?

does it look like it had been modded? This means it was ridden hard.

I am not a GTO man, but I have been told by others they have very weak rear ends.

Well atleast if you get it in a few months you can make posts and agreeing with me about all the problems.  I love company.

Try and have a dealer run the records too, might can find how many times it has been in for what GM calls "service"

GTO's are awesome!  My friend has an 04 and it rocks, cant go wrong with the ls1...but in your case the ls2

Has no mods.  Its a dealer car.  
Vin is:  6G2VX12U16L554590.  
Everything on the car looks fine.  I know some are talking about a strut problems, but how do I check for that?

Thanks

Bill3508

CarFax is not worth the paper this is written on.




I know.


Bill

Don't do it.

Quoted: CarFax is not worth the paper this is written on. I know. Bill

+1 to that.

Carfax is just one tool.  Explore ALL to include a full physical inspection by a professional paint guy who's job is TO POINT out what's wrong with the car.  Good luck, I think GTO's are one of the last great ones...

I'm going to share my all-time favorite TSB, which apllies to the car you're going to look at.

Taxman will appreciate me.

Apparently, noone has figured out what this means:
The back of the engine block is porous, and they want you to smear RTV silicone on it to fix it.
FWIW, if I had a tech do that, I'd fire them.

Bulletin No.: 05-06-01-034E Date: February 12, 2007 TECHNICAL Subject: 5.3L LC9, LS4, L33, LH6, LM4, 5.7L LS1, LS6, 6.0L LS2, L76, 6.2L L92, 7.0L LS7 - Engine Oil Leak at Rear Cover Assembly Area (Engine Block Porosity RTV Repair Procedure) Models: 2004-2007 Buick Rainier 2005-2007 Cadillac CTS-V 2007 Cadillac Escalade, Escalade ESV, Escalade EXT 2003-2007 Chevrolet Corvette, TrailBlazer 2004-2006 Chevrolet SSR 2005-2007 Chevrolet Silverado, Silverado SS 2006-2007 Chevrolet Impala SS, Monte Carlo SS, TrailBlazer SS 2007 Chevrolet Avalanche, Suburban, Tahoe 2003-2007 GMC Envoy, Sierra 2004-2005 GMC Envoy XUV 2007 GMC Yukon XL, Yukon Denali, Yukon XL Denali 2004-2006 Pontiac GTO 2005-2007 Pontiac Grand Prix GXP 2005-2007 Saab 9-7X with 5.3L, 5.7L, 6.0L, 6.2L, 7.0L VORTEC(TM) GEN III or GEN IV V8 Engine (RPOs LC9, LS4, L33, LH6, LM4, LS1, LS6, LS2, L76, L92, LS7) Supercede: This bulletin is being revised to update warranty information. Please discard Corporate Bulletin Number 05-06-01-034D (Section 06 - Engine/Propulsion System). Condition Some customers may comment on an engine oil leak. Cause Upon initial diagnosis, it may be determined that the leak is coming from the rear cover gasket. This condition may be caused by engine block porosity on the sealing surface. This issue pertains to aluminum block applications only. Correction Follow the steps for Oil Leak Diagnosis in SI to determine the source of the leak. If the leak has been diagnosed as coming from the engine rear cover assembly, refer to Engine Rear Cover Replacement in SI and remove the engine rear cover assembly. Inspect for engine block porosity where the engine rear cover mates to the engine block. If porosity is found anywhere on the sealing surface, use the following procedure to apply RTV to repair the engine block porosity. Refer to the illustration below. Clean any residual oil from the block and cover before applying the sealant in the next step. Wipe a small amount of RTV, P/N 12378521 (in Canada, use P/N 88901148), onto the surface using a plastic scraper to fill the porosity. Remove any excess RTV material, especially from inside the high pressure oil passage. Refer to # 1 in the above illustration. The joint may be closed immediately after applying the RTV. Total joint time after the RTV has been applied must be under 20 minutes. Refer to Engine Rear Cover Replacement in SI and follow the tightening specifications and sequence. Reinstall the engine rear cover using a new gasket and a new crankshaft rear main seal. Refer to Engine Rear Cover Replacement in SI. Parts Information For Saab (U.S.) only, use P/N 12345795, Engine Oil Dye (U.S.), or equivalent. Warranty Information Excluding Saab U.S. Models For vehicles repaired under warranty, use the table. Saab U.S. Models For vehicles repaired under warranty, use the table. Disclaimer © 2008 ALLDATA LLC. All rights reserved. Terms of Use

Quoted: Has no mods.  Its a dealer car.   Vin is:  6G2VX12U16L554590.   Everything on the car looks fine.  I know some are talking about a strut problems, but how do I check for that? Thanks Bill3508

Mine had, overheating problems, problems going into gear/staying in gear, stereo problems, rubber stripping¿ coming off, the strut problem, electronic demons, problems with speedometer freaking out, major problsm with staying in a line and shaking.  Also paint quality was very poor and the finish liked to come off the seats abit.  I know thats a fun list to check for.

I know Im missing something Im running at 50% today.

I think they are great cars.  Accelerate, and break well.  They also have a decent top speed.

Quoted: Don't do it.

+more numbers then I can type.

Quoted: Has no mods.  Its a dealer car.   Vin is:  6G2VX12U16L554590.   Everything on the car looks fine.  I know some are talking about a strut problems, but how do I check for that? Thanks Bill3508

Check the inside of the tires to check if they are rubbing on the struts.  My friends did, but he fixed that with Pedders suspension.

And just for giggles, here's a list of all the applicable TSBs for that car:

03-07-29-004D 10/17/2007 Manual Transmission - Operating Characteristics 05-00-89-072A 10/16/2007 Engine/Fuel - Additive Information 03-08-48-006C 10/09/2007 A/C - Rear Window Defroster Contact or Tab Repair 07-08-49-020 10/05/2007 Instruments - IPC Programming Method Reference Guide 05-06-01-010B 09/28/2007 Engine - Sealant Usage/Procedures 00-00-90-002H 09/26/2007 Tires - Information on Proper Tire Pressure 03-03-10-007C 09/21/2007 Tires/Wheels - Vibration/Balance/Shake/Flat Spotting 07-06-01-016A 09/17/2007 Engine - Internal Noise/Damage After Oil Filter Change 07-08-45-002 09/05/2007 Electrical - Aftermarket Fuse Warning 04-06-04-036C 08/30/2007 Engine Controls - Warranty Info., Emissions Programming 05-03-10-005C 08/21/2007 Wheel/Tire - Upsized Wheel/Tire Performance Info. 03-06-03-001D 08/02/2007 Starting System - Starter Cranks After Key Released 05-06-04-035C 07/30/2007 Fuel System - E85 Fuel Usage Precautions 05-06-04-022D 07/26/2007 Fuel System - TOP TIER Gasoline Usage (Canada) 06-08-50-009B 07/19/2007 Restraints - Front Passenger Seat Accessory Precautions 05-08-44-005A 07/19/2007 Entertainment System - Headphone Foam Pad Replacement 05-08-46-009B 06/29/2007 OnStar(R) - Language Change Information 99-08-64-016B 06/22/2007 Body - Use of Silicone for Weatherstrip Maintenance 00-06-01-026B 06/21/2007 Intake Manifold - Inspect/Replace After Engine Damage 07-06-04-019 06/21/2007 Engine Controls - MIL ON/Reduced Power/DTC P2138 06-08-44-012B 06/19/2007 Navigation System - DVD Navigation Update Program 05-09-40-002B 06/13/2007 Restraints - Seat Belt Normal Locking Conditions 03-06-04-030E 06/12/2007 Fuel System - Driveability Issues/MIL ON/DTC's Set 06-08-43-003A 06/08/2007 Wipers - Performance/Cleaning Instructions/Maintenance 02-06-03-008C 05/30/2007 Charging System - Lights Dim/Low Voltage Display 99-01-39-004B 05/29/2007 A/C - Odors In Hot/Humid Conditions 03-00-89-008C 05/24/2007 Body - Metal Panel Corrosion Protection 02-08-46-006B 05/23/2007 OnStar(R) - Incorrect GPS Location Reported During Call 01-07-30-042E 05/21/2007 A/T - 2-3 Upshift or 3-2 Downshift Clunk Noise 00-05-22-002J 05/15/2007 Disc Brake System - Warranty Service and Procedures 06-00-89-029B 05/09/2007 Interior - Cleaning Seats, Carpet, Leather, Vinyl 07-07-30-010 05/03/2007 A/T Controls - Snapshot Data Information 05-08-51-008B 04/23/2007 Body - Bumps or Rust Colored Spots in Paint 07-03-10-008 04/17/2007 Tires - Slight/Mild Tire Feathering information 07-08-44-007 04/17/2007 Navigation System - Replacement Navigation Discs 07-08-63-001 04/17/2007 Body - Polypropylene Energy Absorber Replacement 04-07-30-037C 04/11/2007 A/T - DEXRON-VI(R) Fluid Availability 01-06-01-011D 04/03/2007 Engine - Oil Consumption Guideline Info. 07-08-98-001 04/02/2007 Body - Non-Approval of 'Clipping' for Collision Repair 02-08-42-004A 03/30/2007 Instruments - Reduced PRNDL Display Visibility 02-08-46-007B 03/13/2007 OnStar(R) - Loses GPS/Can't Renew Hands-Free Minutes 07-06-01-002 03/05/2007 Engine - Revised Connecting Rod Bolt Torque 06-07-30-007A 02/20/2007 A/T - MIL ON/DTC P0894/Harsh 1-2 Shift 05-06-01-034E 02/12/2007 Engine - Oil Leak From Rear Cover Assembly Area 04-07-30-013B 02/01/2007 Engine, A/T - Shift/Driveability Concerns/MIL ON 06-00-89-051A 01/24/2007 Locks - Key Code Securtiy Rules & Information 02-08-98-002B 01/17/2007 Body - Hem Flange Repair 04-06-04-054A 01/11/2007 Engine Controls - Aftermarket Accessory Usage 05-07-30-018A 01/11/2007 A/T - Cold Weather Shift Characteristics 00-03-10-006B 01/10/2007 Tires - Radial Force Variation (RFV) Information 99-09-40-005D 12/20/2006 Restraints - Availability of Seat Belt Extenders 06-05-25-005 12/19/2006 TCS - Low Traction Indicator ON With No Wheel Slip 03-07-30-007C 12/19/2006 A/T - Seemingly Slow 'Garage' Shifts 06-01-37-008 12/08/2006 Cooling System - Service Replacement of Heater Hoses 02-07-30-001E 12/07/2006 A/T - Diagnostic Info on DTCs P0894/P1870 06-00-89-054 11/30/2006 Warranty - Claims Submission 06-05-22-007 11/30/2006 Brakes - Rotor/Drum Refinishing Labor Operations 04-06-01-029A 11/28/2006 Engine - Unnecessary Flushing Services 04-06-04-047G 11/28/2006 Fuel System - TOP TIER Detergent Gasoline 06-00-89-050 11/22/2006 Warranty - DTC's Required On Repair Orders 01-07-31-002B 11/01/2006 M/T - Hydraulic Clutch Bleeding Procedure Improvement 01-08-42-001D 10/30/2006 Lighting - Replacement Guidelines for Lamp Condensation 06-02-32-013 10/25/2006 Power Steering - Diagnostic Tips 00-06-04-033B 10/10/2006 Emissions - OBDII I/M Readiness Testing 02-08-98-001C 10/09/2006 Body - Metal Panel Adhesive Bonding Information 00-00-89-027D 10/03/2006 Interior - Eliminating Unwanted Odors 04-03-10-001C 10/02/2006 Tires - Tread Puncture Repair Procedures 05-03-07-009A 09/28/2006 Wheel Alignment - Recommendations/Requirements 04-03-10-012A 09/22/2006 Wheels - Pitting/Brake Dust On Chrome Wheels 05-00-89-078A 09/14/2006 Fuel System - GM Fuel System Treatment Plus(R) 00-08-48-005B 09/12/2006 Body - Distortion On Outer Glass Surfaces 01-07-30-038D 09/12/2006 A/T - Poor Performance/MIL ON/DTC P0757 06-08-111-004 09/08/2006 Body - Exterior Emblem Discoloration/Peeling/Blistering 06-03-10-010 09/07/2006 Wheels - Changing Procedures/Precautions 06-08-42-007 09/07/2006 Lighting - Hazard Flashers Stay ON/Won't Turn OFF 05-06-02-002A 08/31/2006 Cooling System - DEXCOOL(R) Leak Detection Dye 00-06-02-006D 08/15/2006 Cooling System - Coolant Recycling Information 06-06-04-037 08/04/2006 Engine Controls - MIL Function During I/M Testing 00-03-10-002D 08/01/2006 Wheels Chrome Wheel Chemical Staining/Pitting/Corrosion 06-01-39-007 07/25/2006 A/C - Contaminated R134A Refrigerant 06-07-30-016 07/18/2006 A/T - 4L60-E, 4L65-E Fluid Leak From Bell Housing Area 06-02-35-014 07/18/2006 Steering - Steering Wheel Chrome Spoke Covers 06-06-04-035 07/13/2006 Fuel System - E85 Fuel Usage Information 99-08-51-007C 06/19/2006 Wheels - Aluminum Wheel Refinishing Recommendations 04-07-30-037B 06/12/2006 A/T - DEXRON(R) VI Fluid Availability 99-04-20-002D 06/08/2006 A/T - Clunk When Shifting From PARK/DRIVE/REVERSE 04-03-08-014A 06/06/2006 Suspension - Front End Knock Noise On Low Speed Bumps 06-08-47-003 06/05/2006 Body Control Module - Security Code Location 03-07-30-043A 05/25/2006 A/T - Shift Lock Control Feature Function 06-06-04-030 05/15/2006 Fuel System - E85 Refueling Station Information 06-08-45-004 05/02/2006 Electrical - Instrument Panel & General Wiring Repair 06-06-01-010 04/19/2006 Exhaust System - Close-Coupled Cat Converter Information 06-08-44-015 04/19/2006 Audio System - Portable Audio Equipment Noise 05-03-10-003B 04/13/2006 Wheels/Tires - Slow Leaks From Aluminum Wheels 05-08-64-002B 04/03/2006 Body - Door Latches Freezes in Extreme Cold 02-08-48-001B 03/29/2006 Body - Urethane Adhesives for Glass Applications 02-06-03-009B 03/14/2006 Electrical - Battery Charging Tips 05-06-03-002B 03/14/2006 Battery, Charging System - Electrical Diagnostics 02-06-04-015A 03/07/2006 Starting System - Engine No Start/No Crank Condition 05-08-46-008A 03/02/2006 OnStar(R) - Language Change (Canada Only) 06-03-10-004 03/01/2006 Tires/Wheels - Wheel Weight Usage Precautions 05-08-46-004A 02/22/2006 OnStar(R) - Incorrect Phone Number Assigned to Vehicle 02-06-05-004B 02/14/2006 Accessories - DTC's P0300, P1380, P1381 01-07-30-036F 02/14/2006 A/T - 4L60-E, 4L65-E, 4L70-E DTC P0756 Diagnostics 04-08-46-002B 02/07/2006 OnStar(R) - Unable to Connect, Bulletin Cancellation 02-07-30-052D 02/06/2006 A/T - Fluid Cooler Flushing 06-06-04-007 02/02/2006 Electrical - DTC P0606/P0689/P1516/P1682/P2176 06-06-04-006 01/30/2006 Fuel System - Fuel Filler Neck Flapper Door Elimination 00-06-01-012B 01/18/2006 Engine - Surface Conditioning Disc Usage Prohibition 99-08-52-005B 01/10/2006 Keyless Entry - Operational Characteristics 04-06-04-051B 01/04/2006 Fuel System - Fuel Injector Maintenance Cleaning 05-09-41-010 12/22/2005 SRS - New SIR System Disabling Procedure 05-03-10-020 12/22/2005 Tires/Wheels - Nitrogen Gas Usage for Filling Tires 02-08-44-007B 12/09/2005 Audio System - Vinyl Roofs Affect Radio Performance 99-08-51-001A 11/21/2005 Body - Paint-Less Dent Repair Recommendations 02-01-39-004B 11/16/2005 A/C - New PAG Oil 01-07-30-030B 10/18/2005 A/T - 4L60-E/4L65-E Harsh 1-2 Upshift Diagnosis 01-07-30-041B 10/06/2005 A/T - Diagnosing Fluid Leaks 01-07-30-010B 10/01/2005 A/T - Torque Converter Replacement 05-06-04-060 09/23/2005 Engine, A/T Controls - Shared Diagnostic Trouble Codes 01-07-30-002E 09/23/2005 Electrical - A/T Stuck in 2nd/3rd Gear/MIL ON/DTC's 02-07-30-024B 08/18/2005 A/T - Cracked Case Diagnosis 03-06-04-012A 08/10/2005 Electrical - Harness Connection Inspection 05-03-08-009 07/29/2005 Suspension - Unnecessary Control Arm Bushing Replacement 04-08-48-001B 06/28/2005 A/C - Broken Rear Window Defogger Grid Detection 89358 11/01/1988 Battery - Diagnosis and Charging © 2008 ALLDATA LLC. 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Quoted: Quoted: Has no mods.  Its a dealer car.   Vin is:  6G2VX12U16L554590.   Everything on the car looks fine.  I know some are talking about a strut problems, but how do I check for that? Thanks Bill3508 Mine had, overheating problems, problems going into gear/staying in gear, stereo problems, rubber stripping¿ coming off, the strut problem, electronic demons, problems with speedometer freaking out, major problsm with staying in a line and shaking.  Also paint quality was very poor and the finish liked to come off the seats abit.  I know thats a fun list to check for. I know Im missing something Im running at 50% today.

Not very common

Quoted: I'm going to share my all-time favorite TSB, which apllies to the car you're going to look at. Taxman will appreciate me. Bulletin No.: 05-06-01-034E REMOVED DUE TO LENGTH

I heard they also had an issue with a fuel line rubbing on something which end up in fire.  Mine never caught on fire, sadly, I never get what I wish, hope and dream for.

I've asked on the GTO site to have a GM vin check done that will show what problems there have been.  

Bill3508

Quoted: Quoted: I'm going to share my all-time favorite TSB, which apllies to the car you're going to look at. Taxman will appreciate me. Bulletin No.: 05-06-01-034E REMOVED DUE TO LENGTH I heard they also had an issue with a fuel line rubbing on something which end up in fire.  Mine never caught on fire, sadly, I never get what I wish, hope and dream for.

Easy fix

Quoted: [ I heard they also had an issue with a fuel line rubbing on something which end up in fire.  Mine never caught on fire, sadly, I never get what I wish, hope and dream for.

LOL, thats terrible.  

Bill3508

Pontiac hasn't made a decent car in 40 years.

Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Has no mods.  Its a dealer car.   Vin is:  6G2VX12U16L554590.   Everything on the car looks fine.  I know some are talking about a strut problems, but how do I check for that? Thanks Bill3508 Mine had, overheating problems, problems going into gear/staying in gear, stereo problems, rubber stripping¿ coming off, the strut problem, electronic demons, problems with speedometer freaking out, major problsm with staying in a line and shaking.  Also paint quality was very poor and the finish liked to come off the seats abit.  I know thats a fun list to check for. I know Im missing something Im running at 50% today. Not very common

Define common.  

Customer service from them is what really pushed me over the edge.  Refusal to look at the car, accused of being "childish" by a dealer after I call corporate, accused of lieing.  Only just over 100 calls to GM warranty support (which is in India), before I gave up, some of these were due to a dealer refusing to speak with me directly.

Nearly all my vacation and sicktime for 2006 was used trying to get the car looked at by multiple dealers, when I didnt have time to take off work I had someone else take it in for me.

Quoted: Quoted: [ I heard they also had an issue with a fuel line rubbing on something which end up in fire.  Mine never caught on fire, sadly, I never get what I wish, hope and dream for. LOL, thats terrible.   Bill3508

I was consider giving it a hand in buring to the ground but I didnt since Im not commiting insurance fraud.  If it had burned I would have been soo happy Id hug and kiss the smouldering remains

Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Has no mods.  Its a dealer car.   Vin is:  6G2VX12U16L554590.   Everything on the car looks fine.  I know some are talking about a strut problems, but how do I check for that? Thanks Bill3508 Mine had, overheating problems, problems going into gear/staying in gear, stereo problems, rubber stripping¿ coming off, the strut problem, electronic demons, problems with speedometer freaking out, major problsm with staying in a line and shaking.  Also paint quality was very poor and the finish liked to come off the seats abit.  I know thats a fun list to check for. I know Im missing something Im running at 50% today. Not very common Define common.   Customer service from them is what really pushed me over the edge.  Refusal to look at the car, accused of being "childish" by a dealer after I call corporate, accused of lieing.  Only just over 100 calls to GM warranty support (which is in India), before I gave up, some of these were due to a dealer refusing to speak with me directly. Nearly all my vacation and sicktime for 2006 was used trying to get the car looked at by multiple dealers, when I didnt have time to take off work I had someone else take it in for me.

Not common, aka i have never seen one with all those problems.  I know atleast 20 gto owners and have never seen the problems.  One works for the local pontiac dealership, so warrenty work is a awesome.  Fuel line problem is because some of the frc run the rubber line, just need to trim part of the frc(fuel rail cover)

btw, i have a 2000 z28, so i know all about ls1's and ls2's

they are awesome and very reliable, easy to mod and tune

I'm kind of in a position of what the hell to buy.  I want some kind of sports car, American V8, but I'm not real fond of Mustangs or Ford in general.  The Camaro will be out in Feb-March 09 but I don't know if I will be able to afford one.  There is really nothing worth a crap out there as far as a true sports car.  

Bill3508

Quoted: I'm kind of in a position of what the hell to buy.  I want some kind of sports car, American V8, but I'm not real fond of Mustangs or Ford in general.  The Camaro will be out in Feb-March 09 but I don't know if I will be able to afford one.  There is really nothing worth a crap out there as far as a true sports car.   Bill3508

Not American.
German, Japanese, English, Italian, sure.

Myself? I'd buy a 2003 M3 for that kind of money.

GTO's are awesome cars!  cant go wrong with them...

you could get a c5 z06 for the same price as 06 gto though...and c5's rock

Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Has no mods.  Its a dealer car.   Vin is:  6G2VX12U16L554590.   Everything on the car looks fine.  I know some are talking about a strut problems, but how do I check for that? Thanks Bill3508 Mine had, overheating problems, problems going into gear/staying in gear, stereo problems, rubber stripping¿ coming off, the strut problem, electronic demons, problems with speedometer freaking out, major problsm with staying in a line and shaking.  Also paint quality was very poor and the finish liked to come off the seats abit.  I know thats a fun list to check for. I know Im missing something Im running at 50% today. Not very common Define common.   Customer service from them is what really pushed me over the edge.  Refusal to look at the car, accused of being "childish" by a dealer after I call corporate, accused of lieing.  Only just over 100 calls to GM warranty support (which is in India), before I gave up, some of these were due to a dealer refusing to speak with me directly. Nearly all my vacation and sicktime for 2006 was used trying to get the car looked at by multiple dealers, when I didnt have time to take off work I had someone else take it in for me. Not common, aka i have never seen one with all those problems.  I know atleast 20 gto owners and have never seen the problems.  One works for the local pontiac dealership, so warrenty work is a awesome.  Fuel line problem is because some of the frc run the rubber line, just need to trim part of the frc(fuel rail cover) btw, i have a 2000 z28, so i know all about ls1's and ls2's they are awesome and very reliable, easy to mod and tune

Mod in order to make it run right seems common with them, yes asinine.

My dealings with 4 dealers left me wanting to inflict grave bodily harm after a few months.

Mine had all of there, but I got rid it, got a Tacoma now which has twice the miles and none of the issues.  Only Tacoma "issue" was a low spare tire which the dealership topped off for me for free, they didnt insult me either.  

My only problem with the Fuel line was that mine didnt have that, and didnt burn.

Quoted: Quoted: I'm kind of in a position of what the hell to buy.  I want some kind of sports car, American V8, but I'm not real fond of Mustangs or Ford in general.  The Camaro will be out in Feb-March 09 but I don't know if I will be able to afford one.  There is really nothing worth a crap out there as far as a true sports car.   Bill3508 Not American. German, Japanese, English, Italian, sure. Myself? I'd buy a 2003 M3 for that kind of money.

+1 Id like an M3, I still want one but my Tacoma serves my uses.  

Quoted: And just for giggles, here's a list of all the applicable TSBs for that car: 2008 ALLDATA LLC. All rights reserved. Terms of Use

HOLY SHIT!!

Quoted: I'm kind of in a position of what the hell to buy.  I want some kind of sports car, American V8, but I'm not real fond of Mustangs or Ford in general.  The Camaro will be out in Feb-March 09 but I don't know if I will be able to afford one.  There is really nothing worth a crap out there as far as a true sports car.   Bill3508

This is where I was, I got the GTO since it was about the only thing I found.  I regret it. alot.  

Id either wait (not for a GM product though) or look at something like an M3.  Can always step back and think if you will use it enough to justify it as well, sometimes that money could be better used elsewhere.  

You'll think I'm crazy then because I'm trading a 06 Toyota  4Runner on the GTO.  I've never had a sports car of any kind.  I've always driven truck/suv's and I'm tired of it.

Bill3508

I guess I don't know the backstory. Taxman doesn't like his GTO? Give it away to a "lucky" ARFCOM member...

Quoted: Quoted: And just for giggles, here's a list of all the applicable TSBs for that car: 2008 ALLDATA LLC. All rights reserved. Terms of Use HOLY SHIT!!

But the dealer told me there were NO TSBs, yes its flawless, beyond perfect.  They didnt want to accept any of the TSBs I had gotten from GM over the phone and claimed to have never heard of any of my issues.

You should buy a Toyota Tacoma- it will never do you wrong.

I have an 07 and I love it.

Quoted: I guess I don't know the backstory. Taxman doesn't like his GTO? Give it away to a "lucky" ARFCOM member...

I got rid of it, it was borderline undriveable when I did.  I really wanted to take and have it crushed/cubed for scrap but it would have been an larger money loss.  

If I had to keep it Id shoot it, burn it, cut it into small pieces aferwards, make nice metal points from them, then jam them into a few service managers hearts.

Quoted: You should buy a Toyota Tacoma- it will never do you wrong. I have an 07 and I love it.

+1 on my 2006, well Id perfer if it was auto.

if you were close i'd let you drive mine.

i'm tired of the bitching about these cars because 99% of it is armchair assholes that somehow think that because it doesn't look fast it isn't.  i've addressed every one of taxman's bitches and every one of them had it's own TSB that should have been fixed by the dealer.  it sucks when you get a first year vehicle and get every damned glitch there was but it happens.  a shitty dealer does not = a shitty car.

some '06s had leaky front struts.  monroe made a batch using the wrong oil and some people got fucked.  i was one of them.  if you put a finger down in the cup you can feel whether or not there is oil in there.  my car was in this batch and did leak.  i took it to my dealer who told me they'd replace the one but not the other one.  instead of dealership shopping i just told them to go fuck themselves and redid my front suspension for performance since i was going to do it eventually anyway.

this car is completely capable of high 12s, low 13s from the factory and is comfortable as hell.  test drive the car and it will make the decision for you.  

the only bitches i have about this car are as follows:

1.  the 6 speeds have an indirect shifter, it NEEDS to be replaced if you ever decide to drive the car in a spirited manner.  stock shifter sucks.

2.  the boatride from australia was a bitch for some of the cars and it collapsed the strut bushings.  this results in some 17" wheel models rubbing tires on the inside struts when underinflated or in spritied driving.  i replaced mine when i replaced my struts, mine were fine.

if you have any questions just ask.

*the rear end is not weak in these cars.  the factory subs will take 500rwhp.  wheel hop is an issue at launch as this is an IRS vehicle.  this can be fixed with drag bags or with drag springs.  this is not an issue unless dragracing the car.

Quoted: You'll think I'm crazy then because I'm trading a 06 Toyota  4Runner on the GTO.  I've never had a sports car of any kind.  I've always driven truck/suv's and I'm tired of it. Bill3508

When you sober up tomorrow morning, you'll realize your errors.     But for now, hope your 4runner Title is well hid.  

vmax84

Quoted: Quoted: And just for giggles, here's a list of all the applicable TSBs for that car: 2008 ALLDATA LLC. All rights reserved. Terms of Use

It works for the 2005 Toyota Camry as well:

TSB Number & Issue Date      TSB Title
LSC40J NOV 04    Campaign - Navigation Software Upgrade
TSB Number & Issue Date      TSB Title
SS006-07 AUG 07    Battery - Absorbed Glass Mat Battery (AGM) Information
SS004-07 AUG 07    Restraints - SRS Component Disposal
TC010-07 JUN 07    A/T - 'World Standard' Transmission Fluid Information
EG034-07 JUN 07    Engine Controls - Bank 1/Bank 2 O2 Sensor identification
SS002-07 APR 07    Engine Controls - ECU Flash Reprogramming Procedure
ST005R-01 MAR 07    Steering/Suspension - Vehicle Pull Manual Supplement
TC003-07 MAR 07    Drivetrain - Driveshaft Replacement Precautions
AU001R-06 FEB 07    Audio System - Quick Reference Diagnostic Guide
EL003-07 FEB 07    Air Bag Systems - Repair Manual Supplement
PG001R-06 NOV 06    Electrical - Battery Maintenance and Testing
NV009-06 SEP 06    Body - Upper/Lower Windshield Ticking Noise
CRIB146 SEP 06    Body - Paintless Dent Repair Information
EL009R-05 AUG 06    SRS - SRS Lamp ON/DTC B1785, B1786, B1787 or B1788
ST001R-06 JUL 06    Steering - Clunk/Pop/Knock When Turning Steering Wheel
BO015R-03 JUN 06    Body - Water Leak Onto Front Floor Area
PG011R-05 JUN 06    Fuel System - Fuel Injector Cleaning Procedure
NV004-06 MAY 06    Interior - Front Seat Squeak Noise
EL005R-06 MAY 06    Instruments - Temperature Gauge Reads Hot
AX004-06 MAY 06    Audio System - SIRIUS(R) Radio Antenna Separation
BO017R-03 APR 06    Body - Interior Trim Panels/Garnish Loose
BR001R-04 MAR 06    ABS/TCS - Zero Point Calibration Procedure
SU001-06 FEB 06    Suspension - Rear Suspension Thumping on Bumps
TC007R-04 FEB 06    M/T - Shift Lever is Loose
BO021R-03 DEC 05    Body - Sliding Roof Sticking/Binding/Noise
BO022R-04 DEC 05    Restraints - Seat Belt Extender Availability/Application
SS003-05 NOV 05    Audio System - CD Player Skip Verification
EG061-05 NOV 05    Engine Controls - MIL ON/DTC's P0171/P0174/P2195/P2197
BO014-05 NOV 05    SRS/Interior - Seat Cover Replacement Caution
PA002R-02 OCT 05    Paint - Paint Stains Under Rapgard
SS003R-02 AUG 05    Antitheft - Diagnostic Tester Immobilizer Function
PG015R-01 JUL 05    Body - Moonroof Initialization Procedure
PG008R-01 JUL 05    Instruments - Compass Initialization Procedure
BO010-05 JUL 05    Interior - Console Box Door Hard to Open/Broken
TC003-05 JUN 05    Engine Controls - A/T Downshift Lag/Gear Hunting
EG045R-04 JUN 05    Engine Controls - Entering VIN When Replacing PCM/ECM
EL005-05 APR 05    Restraints - Erratic Passenger Air Bag Lamp Operation
EG014-05 MAR 05    Cooling System - Radiator Cap Inspection Procedure
EG010-05 FEB 05    Engine Controls - MIL ON/DTC P0346
EG009-05 FEB 05    Engine Controls - MIL ON/O2 Sensor DTC's Set
PA003R-02 FEB 05    Paint - Refinishing Bumper Cover
ST002R-04 FEB 05    Steering/Suspension - Vehicle Pulls/Drifts To The Left
TC002R-03 DEC 04    Engine/Transmission Controls - Resetting ECM Memory
AC009-04 DEC 04    A/C - Sensor Inspection Procedures
PA005R-04 DEC 04    Paint - Iron Rust Contamination Repair
BO011R-03 DEC 04    Interior - Console Lid Latch Part Available
EG044-04 OCT 04    Engine - Main Bearing Journal Diameter Stamping Revision
PG007-04 OCT 04    Body - Automatic Door Lock Function/Initialization
CRIB141 OCT 04    Paint - Chip Resistant Coatings
BO031R-01 AUG 04    Wipers/Washers - Windshield Wiper Identification
CRIB122 FEB 03    Body - Body Sectioning


And even the 2005 Honda Accord:

TSB Number & Issue Date      TSB Title
07-020 MAR 07    Recall - Fuel Pump Relay Inspection/Replacement
07-002 JAN 07    Recall - Replace Driver's Seat Position Sensor Harness
05-014 APR 05    Recall - Fuse Box Replacement
04-072 MAR 05    Recall - Driver Side Air Bag Protector Installation
TSB Number & Issue Date      TSB Title
07-040 JUN 07    Interior - Center Pocket Lid Doesn't Operate Properly
02-053 JUN 07    Antitheft System - Immobilizer System (Type 4)
01-023 JUN 07    Computers/Controls - Updating Control Units/Modules
06-085 MAY 07    Campaign - Extension of The Vehicle Warranty
07-012 FEB 07    Music Link(R) - System Information/Diagnostics
99-030 FEB 07    Body - Recommended Sealers/Repair materials
07-008 FEB 07    Body - Unibody Repair Guidelines
99-062 JAN 07    Paint - Industrial Fallout Paint Damage
06-082 DEC 06    Tires - Tubless Tire Repair Information
99-018 NOV 06    Tools - Required Special Tools And Equipment
05-021 NOV 06    Suspension - Rear Stabilizer Link Broken
05-012 OCT 06    Body - Moonroof Weatherstrip damaged
00-088 OCT 06    Disc Brake System - Brake Disc Refinishing Guidelines
06-048 JUL 06    Engine Controls - MIL ON/DTC P0116 Set
06-043 JUL 06    Interior - Door Panel Lifts When Closing Window
88-023 APR 06    Electrical - Battery Test Procedure/Equipment
06-001 JAN 06    Audio/Entertainment/Navigation - Service/Exchange
05-071 DEC 05    A/T Controls - MIL ON/DTC P0973 Set
05-034 DEC 05    Electrical/Lighting - DTC P1298 Set or Headlamps Dim
05-066 NOV 05    Body/Frame - Universal Subframe Removal Adapter
04-057 NOV 05    Body - Creak/Click at Dashboard/A-Pillar
05-010 JUL 05    Antitheft System - Alarm Triggers Unexpectedly
03-036 JUN 05    Steering - Vehicle Pulls to The Right
SN050600-011 JUN 05    A/C - Heater Blows Cold Air, A/C Blows Warm Air
05-016 MAY 05    Restraints - Child Seat Anchor Locating Button Missing
03-036 MAY 05    Alignment - Vehicle Pulls to the Right
SN050508 MAY 05    Exhaust System - Catalytic Converter Noise
SN050515 MAY 05    Instrument Cluster - Rewriting ODO Data
SN050509 MAY 05    Instruments - 'CHECK FUEL CAP' Message
SN050506 MAY 05    Wind Noise - Simple Way To Replicate
SN050407 APR 05    A/T - Do Not Remove Torque Converter From Mainshaft
SN050413 APR 05    A/T - Scratches Around Shift Lock Release Slot
SN050418 APR 05    Body - Plastic Body Clip Removal Tips
SN050314 MAR 05    A/T - Fixing Banjo Bolt Leaks
SN050312 MAR 05    Audio System - Muted Speakers
SN050309 MAR 05    Audio System - Radio Volume Drops
SN050315 MAR 05    Brakes - Rear Brake Disc Thickness Manual Revision
SN050316 MAR 05    Engine Controls - Clearing DTC's
SN050311 MAR 05    Windshield Wipers - Blade Care & Replacement
03-007 FEB 05    Interior - Headliner Sagging In Rear
SN050202 FEB 05    A/T - Avoiding Fluid Contamination
SN050212 FEB 05    A/T - Trans Control System DTC 84 Manual Revision
SN050215 FEB 05    Audio System - Never Play CD's With Adhesive Labels
SN050214 FEB 05    Body - Door Glass Weatherstrip Damage
SN050206 FEB 05    Engine Controls - DTC P0172
SN050210 FEB 05    Navigation System - Replacing Lost or Damaged DVD's
05-001 JAN 05    Paint - 2005 Paint Codes
04-065 JAN 05    Homelink(R) System - Won't Learn Garage Door Opener Code
SN050106 JAN 05    Audio System - Registering Replacement XM Recievers
SN050107 JAN 05    Cruise Control - Unit Input Test Manual Revision
SN050109 JAN 05    Engine - Oil Recommendation GF-4 Standard
SN050112 JAN 05    Fuel System - Pressure Regulator Specification Revision
SN050111 JAN 05    M/T - Leaks, Check for Overfilling
02-064 DEC 04    Navigation/Voice Recognition System - Operation
SN041105 NOV 04    ABS/TCS - DTC 68 Troubleshooting
SN041106 NOV 04    Audio - HVAC Subdisplay / Clock Has Wrong Time
SN041107 NOV 04    Low Fuel Indicator Comes On At 1/4 Tank
SN040703 JUL 04    A/C - Poor Cooling During Hard Acceleration
SN030502 MAY 03    Clearing DTCs & Setting ECM/PCM With The HDS

Quoted: And just for giggles, here's a list of all the applicable TSBs for that car: 03-07-29-004D 10/17/2007 Manual Transmission - Operating Characteristics 05-00-89-072A 10/16/2007 Engine/Fuel - Additive Information 03-08-48-006C 10/09/2007 A/C - Rear Window Defroster Contact or Tab Repair 07-08-49-020 10/05/2007 Instruments - IPC Programming Method Reference Guide 05-06-01-010B 09/28/2007 Engine - Sealant Usage/Procedures 00-00-90-002H 09/26/2007 Tires - Information on Proper Tire Pressure 03-03-10-007C 09/21/2007 Tires/Wheels - Vibration/Balance/Shake/Flat Spotting 07-06-01-016A 09/17/2007 Engine - Internal Noise/Damage After Oil Filter Change 07-08-45-002 09/05/2007 Electrical - Aftermarket Fuse Warning 04-06-04-036C 08/30/2007 Engine Controls - Warranty Info., Emissions Programming 05-03-10-005C 08/21/2007 Wheel/Tire - Upsized Wheel/Tire Performance Info. 03-06-03-001D 08/02/2007 Starting System - Starter Cranks After Key Released 05-06-04-035C 07/30/2007 Fuel System - E85 Fuel Usage Precautions 05-06-04-022D 07/26/2007 Fuel System - TOP TIER Gasoline Usage (Canada) 06-08-50-009B 07/19/2007 Restraints - Front Passenger Seat Accessory Precautions 05-08-44-005A 07/19/2007 Entertainment System - Headphone Foam Pad Replacement 05-08-46-009B 06/29/2007 OnStar(R) - Language Change Information 99-08-64-016B 06/22/2007 Body - Use of Silicone for Weatherstrip Maintenance 00-06-01-026B 06/21/2007 Intake Manifold - Inspect/Replace After Engine Damage 07-06-04-019 06/21/2007 Engine Controls - MIL ON/Reduced Power/DTC P2138 06-08-44-012B 06/19/2007 Navigation System - DVD Navigation Update Program 05-09-40-002B 06/13/2007 Restraints - Seat Belt Normal Locking Conditions 03-06-04-030E 06/12/2007 Fuel System - Driveability Issues/MIL ON/DTC's Set 06-08-43-003A 06/08/2007 Wipers - Performance/Cleaning Instructions/Maintenance 02-06-03-008C 05/30/2007 Charging System - Lights Dim/Low Voltage Display 99-01-39-004B 05/29/2007 A/C - Odors In Hot/Humid Conditions 03-00-89-008C 05/24/2007 Body - Metal Panel Corrosion Protection 02-08-46-006B 05/23/2007 OnStar(R) - Incorrect GPS Location Reported During Call 01-07-30-042E 05/21/2007 A/T - 2-3 Upshift or 3-2 Downshift Clunk Noise 00-05-22-002J 05/15/2007 Disc Brake System - Warranty Service and Procedures 06-00-89-029B 05/09/2007 Interior - Cleaning Seats, Carpet, Leather, Vinyl 07-07-30-010 05/03/2007 A/T Controls - Snapshot Data Information 05-08-51-008B 04/23/2007 Body - Bumps or Rust Colored Spots in Paint 07-03-10-008 04/17/2007 Tires - Slight/Mild Tire Feathering information 07-08-44-007 04/17/2007 Navigation System - Replacement Navigation Discs 07-08-63-001 04/17/2007 Body - Polypropylene Energy Absorber Replacement 04-07-30-037C 04/11/2007 A/T - DEXRON-VI(R) Fluid Availability 01-06-01-011D 04/03/2007 Engine - Oil Consumption Guideline Info. 07-08-98-001 04/02/2007 Body - Non-Approval of 'Clipping' for Collision Repair 02-08-42-004A 03/30/2007 Instruments - Reduced PRNDL Display Visibility 02-08-46-007B 03/13/2007 OnStar(R) - Loses GPS/Can't Renew Hands-Free Minutes 07-06-01-002 03/05/2007 Engine - Revised Connecting Rod Bolt Torque 06-07-30-007A 02/20/2007 A/T - MIL ON/DTC P0894/Harsh 1-2 Shift 05-06-01-034E 02/12/2007 Engine - Oil Leak From Rear Cover Assembly Area 04-07-30-013B 02/01/2007 Engine, A/T - Shift/Driveability Concerns/MIL ON 06-00-89-051A 01/24/2007 Locks - Key Code Securtiy Rules & Information 02-08-98-002B 01/17/2007 Body - Hem Flange Repair 04-06-04-054A 01/11/2007 Engine Controls - Aftermarket Accessory Usage 05-07-30-018A 01/11/2007 A/T - Cold Weather Shift Characteristics 00-03-10-006B 01/10/2007 Tires - Radial Force Variation (RFV) Information 99-09-40-005D 12/20/2006 Restraints - Availability of Seat Belt Extenders 06-05-25-005 12/19/2006 TCS - Low Traction Indicator ON With No Wheel Slip 03-07-30-007C 12/19/2006 A/T - Seemingly Slow 'Garage' Shifts 06-01-37-008 12/08/2006 Cooling System - Service Replacement of Heater Hoses 02-07-30-001E 12/07/2006 A/T - Diagnostic Info on DTCs P0894/P1870 06-00-89-054 11/30/2006 Warranty - Claims Submission 06-05-22-007 11/30/2006 Brakes - Rotor/Drum Refinishing Labor Operations 04-06-01-029A 11/28/2006 Engine - Unnecessary Flushing Services 04-06-04-047G 11/28/2006 Fuel System - TOP TIER Detergent Gasoline 06-00-89-050 11/22/2006 Warranty - DTC's Required On Repair Orders 01-07-31-002B 11/01/2006 M/T - Hydraulic Clutch Bleeding Procedure Improvement 01-08-42-001D 10/30/2006 Lighting - Replacement Guidelines for Lamp Condensation 06-02-32-013 10/25/2006 Power Steering - Diagnostic Tips 00-06-04-033B 10/10/2006 Emissions - OBDII I/M Readiness Testing 02-08-98-001C 10/09/2006 Body - Metal Panel Adhesive Bonding Information 00-00-89-027D 10/03/2006 Interior - Eliminating Unwanted Odors 04-03-10-001C 10/02/2006 Tires - Tread Puncture Repair Procedures 05-03-07-009A 09/28/2006 Wheel Alignment - Recommendations/Requirements 04-03-10-012A 09/22/2006 Wheels - Pitting/Brake Dust On Chrome Wheels 05-00-89-078A 09/14/2006 Fuel System - GM Fuel System Treatment Plus(R) 00-08-48-005B 09/12/2006 Body - Distortion On Outer Glass Surfaces 01-07-30-038D 09/12/2006 A/T - Poor Performance/MIL ON/DTC P0757 06-08-111-004 09/08/2006 Body - Exterior Emblem Discoloration/Peeling/Blistering 06-03-10-010 09/07/2006 Wheels - Changing Procedures/Precautions 06-08-42-007 09/07/2006 Lighting - Hazard Flashers Stay ON/Won't Turn OFF 05-06-02-002A 08/31/2006 Cooling System - DEXCOOL(R) Leak Detection Dye 00-06-02-006D 08/15/2006 Cooling System - Coolant Recycling Information 06-06-04-037 08/04/2006 Engine Controls - MIL Function During I/M Testing 00-03-10-002D 08/01/2006 Wheels Chrome Wheel Chemical Staining/Pitting/Corrosion 06-01-39-007 07/25/2006 A/C - Contaminated R134A Refrigerant 06-07-30-016 07/18/2006 A/T - 4L60-E, 4L65-E Fluid Leak From Bell Housing Area 06-02-35-014 07/18/2006 Steering - Steering Wheel Chrome Spoke Covers 06-06-04-035 07/13/2006 Fuel System - E85 Fuel Usage Information 99-08-51-007C 06/19/2006 Wheels - Aluminum Wheel Refinishing Recommendations 04-07-30-037B 06/12/2006 A/T - DEXRON(R) VI Fluid Availability 99-04-20-002D 06/08/2006 A/T - Clunk When Shifting From PARK/DRIVE/REVERSE 04-03-08-014A 06/06/2006 Suspension - Front End Knock Noise On Low Speed Bumps 06-08-47-003 06/05/2006 Body Control Module - Security Code Location 03-07-30-043A 05/25/2006 A/T - Shift Lock Control Feature Function 06-06-04-030 05/15/2006 Fuel System - E85 Refueling Station Information 06-08-45-004 05/02/2006 Electrical - Instrument Panel & General Wiring Repair 06-06-01-010 04/19/2006 Exhaust System - Close-Coupled Cat Converter Information 06-08-44-015 04/19/2006 Audio System - Portable Audio Equipment Noise 05-03-10-003B 04/13/2006 Wheels/Tires - Slow Leaks From Aluminum Wheels 05-08-64-002B 04/03/2006 Body - Door Latches Freezes in Extreme Cold 02-08-48-001B 03/29/2006 Body - Urethane Adhesives for Glass Applications 02-06-03-009B 03/14/2006 Electrical - Battery Charging Tips 05-06-03-002B 03/14/2006 Battery, Charging System - Electrical Diagnostics 02-06-04-015A 03/07/2006 Starting System - Engine No Start/No Crank Condition 05-08-46-008A 03/02/2006 OnStar(R) - Language Change (Canada Only) 06-03-10-004 03/01/2006 Tires/Wheels - Wheel Weight Usage Precautions 05-08-46-004A 02/22/2006 OnStar(R) - Incorrect Phone Number Assigned to Vehicle 02-06-05-004B 02/14/2006 Accessories - DTC's P0300, P1380, P1381 01-07-30-036F 02/14/2006 A/T - 4L60-E, 4L65-E, 4L70-E DTC P0756 Diagnostics 04-08-46-002B 02/07/2006 OnStar(R) - Unable to Connect, Bulletin Cancellation 02-07-30-052D 02/06/2006 A/T - Fluid Cooler Flushing 06-06-04-007 02/02/2006 Electrical - DTC P0606/P0689/P1516/P1682/P2176 06-06-04-006 01/30/2006 Fuel System - Fuel Filler Neck Flapper Door Elimination 00-06-01-012B 01/18/2006 Engine - Surface Conditioning Disc Usage Prohibition 99-08-52-005B 01/10/2006 Keyless Entry - Operational Characteristics 04-06-04-051B 01/04/2006 Fuel System - Fuel Injector Maintenance Cleaning 05-09-41-010 12/22/2005 SRS - New SIR System Disabling Procedure 05-03-10-020 12/22/2005 Tires/Wheels - Nitrogen Gas Usage for Filling Tires 02-08-44-007B 12/09/2005 Audio System - Vinyl Roofs Affect Radio Performance 99-08-51-001A 11/21/2005 Body - Paint-Less Dent Repair Recommendations 02-01-39-004B 11/16/2005 A/C - New PAG Oil 01-07-30-030B 10/18/2005 A/T - 4L60-E/4L65-E Harsh 1-2 Upshift Diagnosis 01-07-30-041B 10/06/2005 A/T - Diagnosing Fluid Leaks 01-07-30-010B 10/01/2005 A/T - Torque Converter Replacement 05-06-04-060 09/23/2005 Engine, A/T Controls - Shared Diagnostic Trouble Codes 01-07-30-002E 09/23/2005 Electrical - A/T Stuck in 2nd/3rd Gear/MIL ON/DTC's 02-07-30-024B 08/18/2005 A/T - Cracked Case Diagnosis 03-06-04-012A 08/10/2005 Electrical - Harness Connection Inspection 05-03-08-009 07/29/2005 Suspension - Unnecessary Control Arm Bushing Replacement 04-08-48-001B 06/28/2005 A/C - Broken Rear Window Defogger Grid Detection 89358 11/01/1988 Battery - Diagnosis and Charging © 2008 ALLDATA LLC. 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WTF is this shit?  our cars don't have half of this shit and the other half is asinine...........tire pressure, this is somehow specific to GTO's?

i.e. we can't use E85, 93 octane is recommended.
enteraintment system-headphone.  impossible, not an option.
onstar. impossible, not an option.
navigation system. impossible, not an option.
vinyl roof problems. impossible, not an option.
etc.....

so basically........if you don't know what the fuck you're talking about, don't.

Quoted: if you were close i'd let you drive mine. i'm tired of the bitching about these cars because 99% of it is armchair assholes that somehow think that because it doesn't look fast it isn't.  i've addressed every one of taxman's bitches and every one of them had it's own TSB that should have been fixed by the dealer.  it sucks when you get a first year vehicle and get every damned glitch there was but it happens.  a shitty dealer does not = a shitty car.

Dealers, as in 4, corporate support equally was lacking as well.  I work in the cust service business and I have never seen/heard of anything handeled that bad.  I have seen issues handeled badly for a few days or a week, but not over months like mine was.  

I had problems, lots of problems, corporate and the dealers liked to ignore them and didnt want to deal with me.  Problems that were just annoying get worse.  Attitude from dealers gets worse.  They did a great job of turning me against them and pissing me off.

Mine didnt have the 1 glitch I wanted.  Atleast I only had to change the oil twice.

looks like someone is talking out of their ass.  the holden platform is a VERY good platform.  compared to the m3 the gto is almost equal.  high quality from the aussies count for quite a lot with the newer gto's.  you want more in depth research go to ls1tech.com or ls1gto.com.  not only are they great cars, theres a LOT you can do to tailor them to your liking.

Quoted: if you were close i'd let you drive mine. i'm tired of the bitching about these cars because 99% of it is armchair assholes that somehow think that because it doesn't look fast it isn't.  i've addressed every one of taxman's bitches and every one of them had it's own TSB that should have been fixed by the dealer.  it sucks when you get a first year vehicle and get every damned glitch there was but it happens.  a shitty dealer does not = a shitty car. some '06s had leaky front struts.  monroe made a batch using the wrong oil and some people got fucked.  i was one of them.  if you put a finger down in the cup you can feel whether or not there is oil in there.  my car was in this batch and did leak.  i took it to my dealer who told me they'd replace the one but not the other one.  instead of dealership shopping i just told them to go fuck themselves and redid my front suspension for performance since i was going to do it eventually anyway. this car is completely capable of high 12s, low 13s from the factory and is comfortable as hell.  test drive the car and it will make the decision for you.   the only bitches i have about this car are as follows: 1.  the 6 speeds have an indirect shifter, it NEEDS to be replaced if you ever decide to drive the car in a spirited manner.  stock shifter sucks. 2.  the boatride from australia was a bitch for some of the cars and it collapsed the strut bushings.  this results in some 17" wheel models rubbing tires on the inside struts when underinflated or in spritied driving.  i replaced mine when i replaced my struts, mine were fine. if you have any questions just ask. *the rear end is not weak in these cars.  the factory subs will take 500rwhp.  wheel hop is an issue at launch as this is an IRS vehicle.  this can be fixed with drag bags or with drag springs.  this is not an issue unless dragracing the car.

Maybe I was thinking CTS-V's

I was trying to give some general guidelines for buying any performance car used.

I like the GTO's.

Quoted: Quoted: if you were close i'd let you drive mine. i'm tired of the bitching about these cars because 99% of it is armchair assholes that somehow think that because it doesn't look fast it isn't.  i've addressed every one of taxman's bitches and every one of them had it's own TSB that should have been fixed by the dealer.  it sucks when you get a first year vehicle and get every damned glitch there was but it happens.  a shitty dealer does not = a shitty car. Dealers, as in 4, corporate support equally was lacking as well.  I work in the cust service business and I have never seen/heard of anything handeled that bad.  I have seen issues handeled badly for a few days or a week, but not over months like mine was.   I had problems, lots of problems, corporate and the dealers liked to ignore them and didnt want to deal with me.  Problems that were just annoying get worse.  Attitude from dealers gets worse.  They did a great job of turning me against them and pissing me off. Mine didnt have the 1 glitch I wanted.  Atleast I only had to change the oil twice.

so in summary:

YOUR car had issues with known TSBs.  YOUR dealers would not fix your TSB problems.  YOU gave up on the car when you could have easily fixed the problems yourself and YOU continue, to this fucking day, to rabidly interject your experience into any thread even slightly resembling a forum to do so. gotcha.

Quoted: if you were close i'd let you drive mine. i'm tired of the bitching about these cars because 99% of it is armchair assholes that somehow think that because it doesn't look fast it isn't.  i've addressed every one of taxman's bitches and every one of them had it's own TSB that should have been fixed by the dealer.  it sucks when you get a first year vehicle and get every damned glitch there was but it happens.  a shitty dealer does not = a shitty car. some '06s had leaky front struts.  monroe made a batch using the wrong oil and some people got fucked.  i was one of them.  if you put a finger down in the cup you can feel whether or not there is oil in there.  my car was in this batch and did leak.  i took it to my dealer who told me they'd replace the one but not the other one.  instead of dealership shopping i just told them to go fuck themselves and redid my front suspension for performance since i was going to do it eventually anyway. this car is completely capable of high 12s, low 13s from the factory and is comfortable as hell.  test drive the car and it will make the decision for you.   the only bitches i have about this car are as follows: 1.  the 6 speeds have an indirect shifter, it NEEDS to be replaced if you ever decide to drive the car in a spirited manner.  stock shifter sucks. 2.  the boatride from australia was a bitch for some of the cars and it collapsed the strut bushings.  this results in some 17" wheel models rubbing tires on the inside struts when underinflated or in spritied driving.  i replaced mine when i replaced my struts, mine were fine. if you have any questions just ask. *the rear end is not weak in these cars.  the factory subs will take 500rwhp.  wheel hop is an issue at launch as this is an IRS vehicle.  this can be fixed with drag bags or with drag springs.  this is not an issue unless dragracing the car.

I appreciate the response.  I have the car in the driveway.  Dealer has let me keep it overnight.  On the strut issue, do I just put my hand down into the top of the strut through the wheel well to check for leaks?  The shifter feels fine to me but this is only my 2nd manual trans vehicle.  My other being a 99 Frontier I still have but its like driving a tractor its so loose.  I already had a stang rev its engine at me going by.  I'm not into racing and not real good at a manual trans even if I was.  I just want something fun to drive that sounds bad ass.

Bill3508

Quoted: Maybe I was thinking CTS-V's

i've heard the same thing, supposed to be their glass jaw but i honestly have no idea what the particular problem with them is

Quoted:
I think they are great cars.  Accelerate, and break well.  They also have a decent top speed.

Haha.  A little slip there?

Quoted: GTO's are awesome cars!  cant go wrong with them... you could get a c5 z06 for the same price as 06 gto though...and c5's rock

The Vette just doesn't have enough room.  I've looked at a couple including one that supposedly was 1 owner, lightly driven.  But upon test driving the engine was knocking badly.  Dealer admitted nothing.

Bill3508

Quoted: Quoted: if you were close i'd let you drive mine. i'm tired of the bitching about these cars because 99% of it is armchair assholes that somehow think that because it doesn't look fast it isn't.  i've addressed every one of taxman's bitches and every one of them had it's own TSB that should have been fixed by the dealer.  it sucks when you get a first year vehicle and get every damned glitch there was but it happens.  a shitty dealer does not = a shitty car. some '06s had leaky front struts.  monroe made a batch using the wrong oil and some people got fucked.  i was one of them.  if you put a finger down in the cup you can feel whether or not there is oil in there.  my car was in this batch and did leak.  i took it to my dealer who told me they'd replace the one but not the other one.  instead of dealership shopping i just told them to go fuck themselves and redid my front suspension for performance since i was going to do it eventually anyway. this car is completely capable of high 12s, low 13s from the factory and is comfortable as hell.  test drive the car and it will make the decision for you.   the only bitches i have about this car are as follows: 1.  the 6 speeds have an indirect shifter, it NEEDS to be replaced if you ever decide to drive the car in a spirited manner.  stock shifter sucks. 2.  the boatride from australia was a bitch for some of the cars and it collapsed the strut bushings.  this results in some 17" wheel models rubbing tires on the inside struts when underinflated or in spritied driving.  i replaced mine when i replaced my struts, mine were fine. if you have any questions just ask. *the rear end is not weak in these cars.  the factory subs will take 500rwhp.  wheel hop is an issue at launch as this is an IRS vehicle.  this can be fixed with drag bags or with drag springs.  this is not an issue unless dragracing the car. I appreciate the response.  I have the car in the driveway.  Dealer has let me keep it overnight.  On the strut issue, do I just put my hand down into the top of the strut through the wheel well to check for leaks?  The shifter feels fine to me but this is only my 2nd manual trans vehicle.  My other being a 99 Frontier I still have but its like driving a tractor its so loose.  I already had a stang rev its engine at me going by.  I'm not into racing and not real good at a manual trans even if I was.  I just want something fun to drive that sounds bad ass. Bill3508

there will be a "cup" where the bottom of the front strut spring sits.  you can put a finger in there or use a flashlight to see if there is any visible oil.  if it just came from the dealer and it was in this batch there was a TSB on changing the struts so it may have already been done if it was subject.

the shifter is awful for a performance vehicle.  2nd to 3rd is sloppy and long.  if you change to a real shifter you WILL appreciate the difference.

don't worry about the stang, you've got a solid half a second on it in the 1/4 if you hit your shifts.

does sound good stock doesn't it?  i was pleasantly suprised but still immediately put straight through bullets and an X pipe on mine..........ls2gto.com has sound clips of every imaginable exhaust combination in the exhaust section

Quoted: Quoted: And just for giggles, here's a list of all the applicable TSBs for that car: 03-07-29-004D 10/17/2007 Manual Transmission - Operating Characteristics 05-00-89-072A 10/16/2007 Engine/Fuel - Additive Information 03-08-48-006C 10/09/2007 A/C - Rear Window Defroster Contact or Tab Repair 07-08-49-020 10/05/2007 Instruments - IPC Programming Method Reference Guide 05-06-01-010B 09/28/2007 Engine - Sealant Usage/Procedures 00-00-90-002H 09/26/2007 Tires - Information on Proper Tire Pressure 03-03-10-007C 09/21/2007 Tires/Wheels - Vibration/Balance/Shake/Flat Spotting 07-06-01-016A 09/17/2007 Engine - Internal Noise/Damage After Oil Filter Change 07-08-45-002 09/05/2007 Electrical - Aftermarket Fuse Warning 04-06-04-036C 08/30/2007 Engine Controls - Warranty Info., Emissions Programming 05-03-10-005C 08/21/2007 Wheel/Tire - Upsized Wheel/Tire Performance Info. 03-06-03-001D 08/02/2007 Starting System - Starter Cranks After Key Released 05-06-04-035C 07/30/2007 Fuel System - E85 Fuel Usage Precautions 05-06-04-022D 07/26/2007 Fuel System - TOP TIER Gasoline Usage (Canada) 06-08-50-009B 07/19/2007 Restraints - Front Passenger Seat Accessory Precautions 05-08-44-005A 07/19/2007 Entertainment System - Headphone Foam Pad Replacement 05-08-46-009B 06/29/2007 OnStar(R) - Language Change Information 99-08-64-016B 06/22/2007 Body - Use of Silicone for Weatherstrip Maintenance 00-06-01-026B 06/21/2007 Intake Manifold - Inspect/Replace After Engine Damage 07-06-04-019 06/21/2007 Engine Controls - MIL ON/Reduced Power/DTC P2138 06-08-44-012B 06/19/2007 Navigation System - DVD Navigation Update Program 05-09-40-002B 06/13/2007 Restraints - Seat Belt Normal Locking Conditions 03-06-04-030E 06/12/2007 Fuel System - Driveability Issues/MIL ON/DTC's Set 06-08-43-003A 06/08/2007 Wipers - Performance/Cleaning Instructions/Maintenance 02-06-03-008C 05/30/2007 Charging System - Lights Dim/Low Voltage Display 99-01-39-004B 05/29/2007 A/C - Odors In Hot/Humid Conditions 03-00-89-008C 05/24/2007 Body - Metal Panel Corrosion Protection 02-08-46-006B 05/23/2007 OnStar(R) - Incorrect GPS Location Reported During Call 01-07-30-042E 05/21/2007 A/T - 2-3 Upshift or 3-2 Downshift Clunk Noise 00-05-22-002J 05/15/2007 Disc Brake System - Warranty Service and Procedures 06-00-89-029B 05/09/2007 Interior - Cleaning Seats, Carpet, Leather, Vinyl 07-07-30-010 05/03/2007 A/T Controls - Snapshot Data Information 05-08-51-008B 04/23/2007 Body - Bumps or Rust Colored Spots in Paint 07-03-10-008 04/17/2007 Tires - Slight/Mild Tire Feathering information 07-08-44-007 04/17/2007 Navigation System - Replacement Navigation Discs 07-08-63-001 04/17/2007 Body - Polypropylene Energy Absorber Replacement 04-07-30-037C 04/11/2007 A/T - DEXRON-VI(R) Fluid Availability 01-06-01-011D 04/03/2007 Engine - Oil Consumption Guideline Info. 07-08-98-001 04/02/2007 Body - Non-Approval of 'Clipping' for Collision Repair 02-08-42-004A 03/30/2007 Instruments - Reduced PRNDL Display Visibility 02-08-46-007B 03/13/2007 OnStar(R) - Loses GPS/Can't Renew Hands-Free Minutes 07-06-01-002 03/05/2007 Engine - Revised Connecting Rod Bolt Torque 06-07-30-007A 02/20/2007 A/T - MIL ON/DTC P0894/Harsh 1-2 Shift 05-06-01-034E 02/12/2007 Engine - Oil Leak From Rear Cover Assembly Area 04-07-30-013B 02/01/2007 Engine, A/T - Shift/Driveability Concerns/MIL ON 06-00-89-051A 01/24/2007 Locks - Key Code Securtiy Rules & Information 02-08-98-002B 01/17/2007 Body - Hem Flange Repair 04-06-04-054A 01/11/2007 Engine Controls - Aftermarket Accessory Usage 05-07-30-018A 01/11/2007 A/T - Cold Weather Shift Characteristics 00-03-10-006B 01/10/2007 Tires - Radial Force Variation (RFV) Information 99-09-40-005D 12/20/2006 Restraints - Availability of Seat Belt Extenders 06-05-25-005 12/19/2006 TCS - Low Traction Indicator ON With No Wheel Slip 03-07-30-007C 12/19/2006 A/T - Seemingly Slow 'Garage' Shifts 06-01-37-008 12/08/2006 Cooling System - Service Replacement of Heater Hoses 02-07-30-001E 12/07/2006 A/T - Diagnostic Info on DTCs P0894/P1870 06-00-89-054 11/30/2006 Warranty - Claims Submission 06-05-22-007 11/30/2006 Brakes - Rotor/Drum Refinishing Labor Operations 04-06-01-029A 11/28/2006 Engine - Unnecessary Flushing Services 04-06-04-047G 11/28/2006 Fuel System - TOP TIER Detergent Gasoline 06-00-89-050 11/22/2006 Warranty - DTC's Required On Repair Orders 01-07-31-002B 11/01/2006 M/T - Hydraulic Clutch Bleeding Procedure Improvement 01-08-42-001D 10/30/2006 Lighting - Replacement Guidelines for Lamp Condensation 06-02-32-013 10/25/2006 Power Steering - Diagnostic Tips 00-06-04-033B 10/10/2006 Emissions - OBDII I/M Readiness Testing 02-08-98-001C 10/09/2006 Body - Metal Panel Adhesive Bonding Information 00-00-89-027D 10/03/2006 Interior - Eliminating Unwanted Odors 04-03-10-001C 10/02/2006 Tires - Tread Puncture Repair Procedures 05-03-07-009A 09/28/2006 Wheel Alignment - Recommendations/Requirements 04-03-10-012A 09/22/2006 Wheels - Pitting/Brake Dust On Chrome Wheels 05-00-89-078A 09/14/2006 Fuel System - GM Fuel System Treatment Plus(R) 00-08-48-005B 09/12/2006 Body - Distortion On Outer Glass Surfaces 01-07-30-038D 09/12/2006 A/T - Poor Performance/MIL ON/DTC P0757 06-08-111-004 09/08/2006 Body - Exterior Emblem Discoloration/Peeling/Blistering 06-03-10-010 09/07/2006 Wheels - Changing Procedures/Precautions 06-08-42-007 09/07/2006 Lighting - Hazard Flashers Stay ON/Won't Turn OFF 05-06-02-002A 08/31/2006 Cooling System - DEXCOOL(R) Leak Detection Dye 00-06-02-006D 08/15/2006 Cooling System - Coolant Recycling Information 06-06-04-037 08/04/2006 Engine Controls - MIL Function During I/M Testing 00-03-10-002D 08/01/2006 Wheels Chrome Wheel Chemical Staining/Pitting/Corrosion 06-01-39-007 07/25/2006 A/C - Contaminated R134A Refrigerant 06-07-30-016 07/18/2006 A/T - 4L60-E, 4L65-E Fluid Leak From Bell Housing Area 06-02-35-014 07/18/2006 Steering - Steering Wheel Chrome Spoke Covers 06-06-04-035 07/13/2006 Fuel System - E85 Fuel Usage Information 99-08-51-007C 06/19/2006 Wheels - Aluminum Wheel Refinishing Recommendations 04-07-30-037B 06/12/2006 A/T - DEXRON(R) VI Fluid Availability 99-04-20-002D 06/08/2006 A/T - Clunk When Shifting From PARK/DRIVE/REVERSE 04-03-08-014A 06/06/2006 Suspension - Front End Knock Noise On Low Speed Bumps 06-08-47-003 06/05/2006 Body Control Module - Security Code Location 03-07-30-043A 05/25/2006 A/T - Shift Lock Control Feature Function 06-06-04-030 05/15/2006 Fuel System - E85 Refueling Station Information 06-08-45-004 05/02/2006 Electrical - Instrument Panel & General Wiring Repair 06-06-01-010 04/19/2006 Exhaust System - Close-Coupled Cat Converter Information 06-08-44-015 04/19/2006 Audio System - Portable Audio Equipment Noise 05-03-10-003B 04/13/2006 Wheels/Tires - Slow Leaks From Aluminum Wheels 05-08-64-002B 04/03/2006 Body - Door Latches Freezes in Extreme Cold 02-08-48-001B 03/29/2006 Body - Urethane Adhesives for Glass Applications 02-06-03-009B 03/14/2006 Electrical - Battery Charging Tips 05-06-03-002B 03/14/2006 Battery, Charging System - Electrical Diagnostics 02-06-04-015A 03/07/2006 Starting System - Engine No Start/No Crank Condition 05-08-46-008A 03/02/2006 OnStar(R) - Language Change (Canada Only) 06-03-10-004 03/01/2006 Tires/Wheels - Wheel Weight Usage Precautions 05-08-46-004A 02/22/2006 OnStar(R) - Incorrect Phone Number Assigned to Vehicle 02-06-05-004B 02/14/2006 Accessories - DTC's P0300, P1380, P1381 01-07-30-036F 02/14/2006 A/T - 4L60-E, 4L65-E, 4L70-E DTC P0756 Diagnostics 04-08-46-002B 02/07/2006 OnStar(R) - Unable to Connect, Bulletin Cancellation 02-07-30-052D 02/06/2006 A/T - Fluid Cooler Flushing 06-06-04-007 02/02/2006 Electrical - DTC P0606/P0689/P1516/P1682/P2176 06-06-04-006 01/30/2006 Fuel System - Fuel Filler Neck Flapper Door Elimination 00-06-01-012B 01/18/2006 Engine - Surface Conditioning Disc Usage Prohibition 99-08-52-005B 01/10/2006 Keyless Entry - Operational Characteristics 04-06-04-051B 01/04/2006 Fuel System - Fuel Injector Maintenance Cleaning 05-09-41-010 12/22/2005 SRS - New SIR System Disabling Procedure 05-03-10-020 12/22/2005 Tires/Wheels - Nitrogen Gas Usage for Filling Tires 02-08-44-007B 12/09/2005 Audio System - Vinyl Roofs Affect Radio Performance 99-08-51-001A 11/21/2005 Body - Paint-Less Dent Repair Recommendations 02-01-39-004B 11/16/2005 A/C - New PAG Oil 01-07-30-030B 10/18/2005 A/T - 4L60-E/4L65-E Harsh 1-2 Upshift Diagnosis 01-07-30-041B 10/06/2005 A/T - Diagnosing Fluid Leaks 01-07-30-010B 10/01/2005 A/T - Torque Converter Replacement 05-06-04-060 09/23/2005 Engine, A/T Controls - Shared Diagnostic Trouble Codes 01-07-30-002E 09/23/2005 Electrical - A/T Stuck in 2nd/3rd Gear/MIL ON/DTC's 02-07-30-024B 08/18/2005 A/T - Cracked Case Diagnosis 03-06-04-012A 08/10/2005 Electrical - Harness Connection Inspection 05-03-08-009 07/29/2005 Suspension - Unnecessary Control Arm Bushing Replacement 04-08-48-001B 06/28/2005 A/C - Broken Rear Window Defogger Grid Detection 89358 11/01/1988 Battery - Diagnosis and Charging © 2008 ALLDATA LLC. All rights reserved. Terms of Use WTF is this shit?  our cars don't have half of this shit and the other half is asinine...........tire pressure, this is somehow specific to GTO's? i.e. we can't use E85, 93 octane is recommended. enteraintment system-headphone.  impossible, not an option. onstar. impossible, not an option. navigation system. impossible, not an option. vinyl roof problems. impossible, not an option. etc..... so basically........if you don't know what the fuck you're talking about, don't.

I hope this is not directed at me... I know how to look up TSBs, which apparently you don't.
Step 1: Get Alldata subscription.
Step 2: Enter 2006 Pontiac GTO.
Step 3: Click on "show all applicable TSBs".
Step 4: Cut-and-paste.

This is what Alldata shows for TSBs. Get over it. Some are bad (oil leakage) most aren't. TSBs are Technical Service Bulletins and are designed for information dissemination. They do not necessarily describe a problem, but rather answer questions someone might have about the car.

I made no judgement on whether it is good or bad, just pulled up the list.

FWIW, they're very fast, in a straight line.