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Posted: 12/2/2007 6:46:27 PM EDT
H.R.1399
Title: To restore Second Amendment rights in the District of Columbia.
Sponsor: Rep Ross, Mike [AR-4] (introduced 3/8/2007)      Cosponsors (239)
Related Bills: S.1001
Latest Major Action: 3/27/2007 Referred to House subcommittee. Status: Referred to the Subcommittee on Federal Workforce, Post Office, and the District of Columbia. COSPONSORS(239), ALPHABETICAL [followed by Cosponsors withdrawn]:     (Sort: by date)


     Rep Aderholt, Robert B. [AL-4] - 3/20/2007
     Rep Akin, W. Todd [MO-2] - 5/10/2007
     Rep Alexander, Rodney [LA-5] - 6/21/2007
     Rep Altmire, Jason [PA-4] - 4/17/2007
     Rep Baca, Joe [CA-43] - 5/24/2007
     Rep Bachmann, Michele [MN-6] - 3/27/2007
     Rep Bachus, Spencer [AL-6] - 7/31/2007
     Rep Baker, Richard H. [LA-6] - 4/17/2007
     Rep Barrett, J. Gresham [SC-3] - 5/9/2007
     Rep Barrow, John [GA-12] - 4/17/2007
     Rep Bartlett, Roscoe G. [MD-6] - 7/24/2007
     Rep Barton, Joe [TX-6] - 3/20/2007
     Rep Berry, Marion [AR-1] - 5/24/2007
     Rep Biggert, Judy [IL-13] - 6/27/2007
     Rep Bilbray, Brian P. [CA-50] - 3/20/2007
     Rep Bilirakis, Gus M. [FL-9] - 7/18/2007
     Rep Bishop, Rob [UT-1] - 5/24/2007
     Rep Bishop, Sanford D., Jr. [GA-2] - 4/19/2007
     Rep Blackburn, Marsha [TN-7] - 3/20/2007
     Rep Blunt, Roy [MO-7] - 5/21/2007
     Rep Boehner, John A. [OH-8] - 5/10/2007
     Rep Bonner, Jo [AL-1] - 6/6/2007
     Rep Boozman, John [AR-3] - 3/27/2007
     Rep Boren, Dan [OK-2] - 5/3/2007
     Rep Boswell, Leonard L. [IA-3] - 4/17/2007
     Rep Boucher, Rick [VA-9] - 3/23/2007
     Rep Boustany, Charles W., Jr. [LA-7] - 5/24/2007
     Rep Boyd, Allen [FL-2] - 3/23/2007
     Rep Boyda, Nancy E. [KS-2] - 6/6/2007
     Rep Brady, Kevin [TX-8] - 5/10/2007
     Rep Broun, Paul C. [GA-10] - 8/4/2007
     Rep Brown, Henry E., Jr. [SC-1] - 4/17/2007
     Rep Brown-Waite, Ginny [FL-5] - 3/20/2007
     Rep Buchanan, Vern [FL-13] - 3/20/2007
     Rep Burgess, Michael C. [TX-26] - 3/20/2007
     Rep Burton, Dan [IN-5] - 6/12/2007
     Rep Buyer, Steve [IN-4] - 7/24/2007
     Rep Calvert, Ken [CA-44] - 4/25/2007
     Rep Camp, Dave [MI-4] - 6/7/2007
     Rep Campbell, John [CA-48] - 4/17/2007
     Rep Cannon, Chris [UT-3] - 3/20/2007
     Rep Cantor, Eric [VA-7] - 3/20/2007
     Rep Capito, Shelley Moore [WV-2] - 3/29/2007
     Rep Cardoza, Dennis A. [CA-18] - 3/23/2007
     Rep Carney, Christopher P. [PA-10] - 5/15/2007
     Rep Carter, John R. [TX-31] - 4/17/2007
     Rep Chabot, Steve [OH-1] - 5/24/2007
     Rep Chandler, Ben [KY-6] - 4/17/2007
     Rep Coble, Howard [NC-6] - 6/6/2007
     Rep Cole, Tom [OK-4] - 5/10/2007
     Rep Conaway, K. Michael [TX-11] - 3/20/2007
     Rep Cooper, Jim [TN-5] - 5/24/2007
     Rep Costello, Jerry F. [IL-12] - 4/24/2007
     Rep Cramer, Robert E. (Bud), Jr. [AL-5] - 5/24/2007
     Rep Crenshaw, Ander [FL-4] - 4/17/2007
     Rep Cubin, Barbara [WY] - 3/29/2007
     Rep Cuellar, Henry [TX-28] - 5/24/2007
     Rep Culberson, John Abney [TX-7] - 3/20/2007
     Rep Davis, Artur [AL-7] - 3/23/2007
     Rep Davis, David [TN-1] - 4/30/2007
     Rep Davis, Geoff [KY-4] - 3/23/2007
     Rep Davis, Jo Ann [VA-1] - 5/9/2007
     Rep Davis, Lincoln [TN-4] - 5/21/2007
     Rep Davis, Tom [VA-11] - 7/18/2007
     Rep Deal, Nathan [GA-9] - 5/21/2007
     Rep DeFazio, Peter A. [OR-4] - 3/29/2007
     Rep Dent, Charles W. [PA-15] - 6/21/2007
     Rep Diaz-Balart, Lincoln [FL-21] - 5/10/2007
     Rep Diaz-Balart, Mario [FL-25] - 3/23/2007
     Rep Dingell, John D. [MI-15] - 3/20/2007
     Rep Donnelly, Joe [IN-2] - 7/24/2007
     Rep Doolittle, John T. [CA-4] - 3/20/2007
     Rep Drake, Thelma D. [VA-2] - 3/29/2007
     Rep Duncan, John J., Jr. [TN-2] - 7/31/2007
     Rep Edwards, Chet [TX-17] - 5/21/2007
     Rep Ellsworth, Brad [IN-8] - 3/20/2007
     Rep Emerson, Jo Ann [MO-8] - 7/11/2007
     Rep English, Phil [PA-3] - 5/24/2007
     Rep Everett, Terry [AL-2] - 5/24/2007
     Rep Fallin, Mary [OK-5] - 3/27/2007
     Rep Feeney, Tom [FL-24] - 3/29/2007
     Rep Flake, Jeff [AZ-6] - 6/28/2007
     Rep Forbes, J. Randy [VA-4] - 6/6/2007
     Rep Fortenberry, Jeff [NE-1] - 7/24/2007
     Rep Foxx, Virginia [NC-5] - 7/16/2007
     Rep Franks, Trent [AZ-2] - 3/20/2007
     Rep Gallegly, Elton [CA-24] - 4/30/2007
     Rep Garrett, Scott [NJ-5] - 3/27/2007
     Rep Gerlach, Jim [PA-6] - 6/21/2007
     Rep Gillibrand, Kirsten E. [NY-20] - 5/24/2007
     Rep Gillmor, Paul E. [OH-5] - 6/21/2007
     Rep Gingrey, Phil [GA-11] - 4/17/2007
     Rep Gohmert, Louie [TX-1] - 6/28/2007
     Rep Goode, Virgil H., Jr. [VA-5] - 4/17/2007
     Rep Goodlatte, Bob [VA-6] - 5/24/2007
     Rep Gordon, Bart [TN-6] - 4/17/2007
     Rep Granger, Kay [TX-12] - 7/31/2007
     Rep Graves, Sam [MO-6] - 6/21/2007
     Rep Green, Gene [TX-29] - 3/23/2007
     Rep Hall, Ralph M. [TX-4] - 4/17/2007
     Rep Hastert, J. Dennis [IL-14] - 8/2/2007
     Rep Hastings, Doc [WA-4] - 6/6/2007
     Rep Hayes, Robin [NC-8] - 6/6/2007
     Rep Heller, Dean [NV-2] - 3/20/2007
     Rep Hensarling, Jeb [TX-5] - 3/20/2007
     Rep Herger, Wally [CA-2] - 5/15/2007
     Rep Herseth Sandlin, Stephanie [SD] - 6/27/2007
     Rep Higgins, Brian [NY-27] - 6/22/2007
     Rep Hill, Baron P. [IN-9] - 5/24/2007
     Rep Hoekstra, Peter [MI-2] - 8/2/2007
     Rep Holden, Tim [PA-17] - 3/20/2007
     Rep Hulshof, Kenny C. [MO-9] - 7/11/2007
     Rep Hunter, Duncan [CA-52] - 3/20/2007
     Rep Inglis, Bob [SC-4] - 8/4/2007
     Rep Issa, Darrell E. [CA-49] - 3/20/2007
     Rep Jindal, Bobby [LA-1] - 6/7/2007
     Rep Johnson, Sam [TX-3] - 4/17/2007
     Rep Johnson, Timothy V. [IL-15] - 3/20/2007
     Rep Jones, Walter B., Jr. [NC-3] - 3/20/2007
     Rep Jordan, Jim [OH-4] - 3/20/2007
     Rep Kagen, Steve [WI-8] - 10/2/2007
     Rep Kanjorski, Paul E. [PA-11] - 5/24/2007
     Rep Keller, Ric [FL-8] - 3/23/2007
     Rep Kind, Ron [WI-3] - 5/24/2007
     Rep King, Steve [IA-5] - 4/25/2007
     Rep Kingston, Jack [GA-1] - 6/21/2007
     Rep Kline, John [MN-2] - 4/25/2007
     Rep Knollenberg, Joe [MI-9] - 7/31/2007
     Rep Kuhl, John R. "Randy", Jr. [NY-29] - 6/22/2007
     Rep Lamborn, Doug [CO-5] - 4/17/2007
     Rep Lampson, Nick [TX-22] - 3/29/2007
     Rep Latham, Tom [IA-4] - 5/9/2007
     Rep LaTourette, Steven C. [OH-14] - 8/4/2007
     Rep Lewis, Jerry [CA-41] - 6/21/2007
     Rep Lewis, Ron [KY-2] - 6/21/2007
     Rep Linder, John [GA-7] - 6/21/2007
     Rep Lucas, Frank D. [OK-3] - 7/31/2007
     Rep Mack, Connie [FL-14] - 3/20/2007
     Rep Mahoney, Tim [FL-16] - 5/24/2007
     Rep Manzullo, Donald A. [IL-16] - 7/25/2007
     Rep Marchant, Kenny [TX-24] - 3/23/2007
     Rep Marshall, Jim [GA-8] - 5/21/2007
     Rep Matheson, Jim [UT-2] - 3/20/2007
     Rep McCarthy, Kevin [CA-22] - 8/4/2007
     Rep McCaul, Michael T. [TX-10] - 4/17/2007
     Rep McCotter, Thaddeus G. [MI-11] - 6/27/2007
     Rep McCrery, Jim [LA-4] - 6/6/2007
     Rep McHenry, Patrick T. [NC-10] - 3/20/2007
     Rep McHugh, John M. [NY-23] - 8/2/2007
     Rep McIntyre, Mike [NC-7] - 5/24/2007
     Rep McKeon, Howard P. "Buck" [CA-25] - 8/4/2007
     Rep McMorris Rodgers, Cathy [WA-5] - 6/28/2007
     Rep Melancon, Charlie [LA-3] - 5/21/2007
     Rep Mica, John L. [FL-7] - 6/7/2007
     Rep Michaud, Michael H. [ME-2] - 3/23/2007
     Rep Miller, Candice S. [MI-10] - 6/12/2007
     Rep Miller, Gary G. [CA-42] - 5/15/2007
     Rep Miller, Jeff [FL-1] - 3/20/2007
     Rep Mollohan, Alan B. [WV-1] - 3/27/2007
     Rep Moran, Jerry [KS-1] - 5/24/2007
     Rep Murphy, Tim [PA-18] - 8/2/2007
     Rep Murtha, John P. [PA-12] - 4/17/2007
     Rep Musgrave, Marilyn N. [CO-4] - 4/17/2007
     Rep Myrick, Sue Wilkins [NC-9] - 7/18/2007
     Rep Neugebauer, Randy [TX-19] - 4/24/2007
     Rep Nunes, Devin [CA-21] - 6/28/2007
     Rep Ortiz, Solomon P. [TX-27] - 5/24/2007
     Rep Paul, Ron [TX-14] - 6/28/2007
     Rep Pearce, Stevan [NM-2] - 5/24/2007
     Rep Pence, Mike [IN-6] - 3/23/2007
     Rep Peterson, Collin C. [MN-7] - 3/29/2007
     Rep Peterson, John E. [PA-5] - 4/17/2007
     Rep Petri, Thomas E. [WI-6] - 8/4/2007
     Rep Pickering, Charles W. "Chip" [MS-3] - 4/25/2007
     Rep Pitts, Joseph R. [PA-16] - 3/23/2007
     Rep Platts, Todd Russell [PA-19] - 4/25/2007
     Rep Poe, Ted [TX-2] - 3/20/2007
     Rep Pomeroy, Earl [ND] - 5/21/2007
     Rep Porter, Jon C. [NV-3] - 3/23/2007
     Rep Price, Tom [GA-6] - 4/25/2007
     Rep Pryce, Deborah [OH-15] - 3/20/2007
     Rep Putnam, Adam H. [FL-12] - 3/20/2007
     Rep Radanovich, George [CA-19] - 5/24/2007
     Rep Rahall, Nick J., II [WV-3] - 3/20/2007
     Rep Regula, Ralph [OH-16] - 8/4/2007
     Rep Rehberg, Dennis R. [MT] - 5/9/2007
     Rep Reichert, David G. [WA-8] - 11/9/2007
     Rep Renzi, Rick [AZ-1] - 4/17/2007
     Rep Reyes, Silvestre [TX-16] - 5/24/2007
     Rep Reynolds, Thomas M. [NY-26] - 6/12/2007
     Rep Rodriguez, Ciro D. [TX-23] - 7/25/2007
     Rep Rogers, Harold [KY-5] - 10/4/2007
     Rep Rogers, Mike D. [AL-3] - 3/20/2007
     Rep Rogers, Mike J. [MI-8] - 7/18/2007
     Rep Rohrabacher, Dana [CA-46] - 6/6/2007
     Rep Ros-Lehtinen, Ileana [FL-18] - 6/22/2007
     Rep Royce, Edward R. [CA-40] - 6/21/2007
     Rep Ryan, Paul [WI-1] - 5/21/2007
     Rep Ryan, Tim [OH-17] - 5/21/2007
     Rep Salazar, John T. [CO-3] - 3/23/2007
     Rep Sali, Bill [ID-1] - 3/20/2007
     Rep Schmidt, Jean [OH-2] - 5/21/2007
     Rep Sensenbrenner, F. James, Jr. [WI-5] - 7/25/2007
     Rep Sessions, Pete [TX-32] - 3/23/2007
     Rep Shadegg, John B. [AZ-3] - 5/24/2007
     Rep Shimkus, John [IL-19] - 4/17/2007
     Rep Shuler, Heath [NC-11] - 3/23/2007
     Rep Shuster, Bill [PA-9] - 3/20/2007
     Rep Simpson, Michael K. [ID-2] - 3/20/2007
     Rep Skelton, Ike [MO-4] - 3/20/2007
     Rep Smith, Adrian [NE-3] - 3/23/2007
     Rep Smith, Lamar [TX-21] - 5/10/2007
     Rep Souder, Mark E. [IN-3] - 3/8/2007
     Rep Space, Zachary T. [OH-18] - 5/24/2007
     Rep Stearns, Cliff [FL-6] - 6/7/2007
     Rep Stupak, Bart [MI-1] - 5/24/2007
     Rep Sullivan, John [OK-1] - 4/17/2007
     Rep Tancredo, Thomas G. [CO-6] - 5/21/2007
     Rep Tanner, John S. [TN-8] - 5/24/2007
     Rep Taylor, Gene [MS-4] - 5/24/2007
     Rep Terry, Lee [NE-2] - 7/11/2007
     Rep Thornberry, Mac [TX-13] - 7/31/2007
     Rep Tiahrt, Todd [KS-4] - 7/16/2007
     Rep Tiberi, Patrick J. [OH-12] - 5/9/2007
     Rep Turner, Michael R. [OH-3] - 7/11/2007
     Rep Upton, Fred [MI-6] - 7/24/2007
     Rep Walberg, Timothy [MI-7] - 3/23/2007
     Rep Walden, Greg [OR-2] - 6/6/2007
     Rep Walz, Timothy J. [MN-1] - 6/21/2007
     Rep Wamp, Zach [TN-3] - 3/20/2007
     Rep Weldon, Dave [FL-15] - 5/24/2007
     Rep Weller, Jerry [IL-11] - 5/3/2007
     Rep Westmoreland, Lynn A. [GA-3] - 4/25/2007
     Rep Whitfield, Ed [KY-1] - 6/27/2007
     Rep Wicker, Roger F. [MS-1] - 6/12/2007
     Rep Wilson, Charles A. [OH-6] - 5/21/2007
     Rep Wilson, Heather [NM-1] - 10/31/2007
     Rep Wilson, Joe [SC-2] - 3/20/2007
     Rep Young, Don [AK] - 4/17/2007

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Link Posted: 12/2/2007 6:47:25 PM EDT
[#1]
Any dems on there want to make Heller v DC moot.
Link Posted: 12/2/2007 6:55:57 PM EDT
[#2]
Wow. The most surprising thing about that list is that I recognized quite a few names of democrats on it. Of course some of them are considered the "conservative" democrats elected in 2006. Maybe they are actually living up to that billing. Also, that's a very sizable list of co-sponsors, much more impressive than any co-sponsor list I've seen for anti-gun legislation in recent years.
Link Posted: 12/2/2007 7:06:15 PM EDT
[#3]
Why now?
Why is this legislation only being presented after Heller has been accepted by the SCOTUS?
Link Posted: 12/2/2007 7:07:34 PM EDT
[#4]
Probably because they are shitting their pants that a 2nd Amendment decision is being made.
Link Posted: 12/2/2007 7:13:41 PM EDT
[#5]
FUCKYEAH!
Link Posted: 12/2/2007 7:13:45 PM EDT
[#6]

Quoted:
     Rep Paul, Ron [TX-14] - 6/28/2007


I'm glad to see that Representative Moonbat is helping out.

Link Posted: 12/2/2007 7:15:59 PM EDT
[#7]

Quoted:
Why now?
Why is this legislation only being presented after Heller has been accepted by the SCOTUS?


My guess is that they see the handwriting on the wall.  They want to make sure that they are on the 'right' side of the issue when the ruling comes down.
Link Posted: 12/2/2007 7:16:26 PM EDT
[#8]
This bill was introduced awhile ago but is still gaining sponsors

Link Posted: 12/2/2007 7:18:20 PM EDT
[#9]
Well good news is good news. Things are starting to look up for us.
Link Posted: 12/2/2007 7:19:04 PM EDT
[#10]
it'll get attached to some appropriations bill that will get vetoed and the politicians will say, "look, we tried!"


this shouldn't have to come down to passing a law that makes it "legal" to own a gun in DC. the 2A is clear and shouldn't have to be interpreted.
Link Posted: 12/2/2007 7:22:14 PM EDT
[#11]

Quoted:
Probably because they are shitting their pants that a 2nd Amendment decision is being made.


I'd like to think your right,  but that would imply that our politicians know what logical thought is.
Link Posted: 12/2/2007 7:23:09 PM EDT
[#12]

Quoted:
... that's a very sizable list of co-sponsors, much more impressive than any co-sponsor list I've seen for anti-gun legislation in recent years.


Thats because its not gun legislation it's anti- DC v Heller legislation
Link Posted: 12/2/2007 8:28:06 PM EDT
[#13]
Any relief created by Heller v DC would still have to be IMPLIMENTED by legislation by congress.  All SCOTUS would do is remove the old law- it would just leave a vacume.
Link Posted: 12/2/2007 8:32:08 PM EDT
[#14]
Rep Musgrave, Marilyn N. [CO-4] - 4/17/2007

This surprised me. She is all about taking our guns away in CO.
Link Posted: 12/2/2007 8:39:14 PM EDT
[#15]
All three of my reps are on there.  They are good guys.  
Link Posted: 12/2/2007 8:39:20 PM EDT
[#16]
If this law as passed, would the Supreme Court then reject hearing the Heller case?

If so, this would actually be "anti-gun" legislation, as it would make the actual SCOTUS opinion of the 2nd Amendment go away. Meaning we lose again.

So would this make the Heller case go away in the SCOTUS?
Link Posted: 12/2/2007 8:40:23 PM EDT
[#17]

of course, OK represents...
Link Posted: 12/2/2007 8:42:49 PM EDT
[#18]

Quoted:
Why now?
Why is this legislation only being presented after Heller has been accepted by the SCOTUS?


To protect the NRAs relevence and funding.
Link Posted: 12/2/2007 8:43:48 PM EDT
[#19]
When does the CA version come out?



And my Rep. is on that list
Link Posted: 12/2/2007 8:45:40 PM EDT
[#20]

Quoted:
FUCKYEAH!



Uhhhh NO!!!   We are a few months away from something the SCOTUS has been ducking for 70+ years, this is the ultimate in bad timing.
Link Posted: 12/2/2007 8:47:25 PM EDT
[#21]

Quoted:
When does the CA version come out?



When the earth shifts it's poles probably.
Link Posted: 12/2/2007 8:48:07 PM EDT
[#22]

Quoted:

Quoted:
FUCKYEAH!



Uhhhh NO!!!   We are a few months away from something the SCOTUS has been ducking for 70+ years, this is the ultimate in bad timing.



I think this was planned.
Link Posted: 12/2/2007 8:52:02 PM EDT
[#23]

Rep DeFazio, Peter A. [OR-4] - 3/29/2007


Wow. Did not see that one coming.
Link Posted: 12/2/2007 8:54:39 PM EDT
[#24]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:
FUCKYEAH!



Uhhhh NO!!!   We are a few months away from something the SCOTUS has been ducking for 70+ years, this is the ultimate in bad timing.



I think this was planned.


The tards are scared, that is a good thing.  Cant wait to see the utter horseshit that gets tacked on to this legislation too.  Probably A massive ammunition tax on MIL/LE calibres.
Link Posted: 12/2/2007 9:00:52 PM EDT
[#25]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:
FUCKYEAH!



Uhhhh NO!!!   We are a few months away from something the SCOTUS has been ducking for 70+ years, this is the ultimate in bad timing.



I think this was planned.


The tards are scared, that is a good thing.  Cant wait to see the utter horseshit that gets tacked on to this legislation too.  Probably A massive ammunition tax on MIL/LE calibres.



You know, if the SCOTUS does not hear the Heller case and doesn't rule on the side of the 2nd because of this legislation, I am going to NEVER trust in our political process again. If this is the case, you can't trust ANY of them to do the right thing.

As far as I am concerned, if this screws up our chance at finally getting our 2nd Amendment Rights back in full, our "friends" at the NRA and the so called "pro-gun" legislators can KMA. If the Heller case is pulled off the docket because of this, the NRA will NEVER get another dime from me. Period. I am getting really sick and tired of this snow job by our so called friends. I hope I am wrong, but I doubt it.  
Link Posted: 12/2/2007 9:03:23 PM EDT
[#26]
My rep is on there, but its not really that suprising
Link Posted: 12/2/2007 9:03:46 PM EDT
[#27]

Quoted:
Why now?
Why is this legislation only being presented after Heller has been accepted by the SCOTUS?


It was sponsored by Sen. Kay Hutchison from Texas and was introduced in March.  She also sponsored a similar bill in 2005.

Link Posted: 12/2/2007 9:04:57 PM EDT
[#28]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Why now?
Why is this legislation only being presented after Heller has been accepted by the SCOTUS?


It was sponsored by Sen. Kay Hutchison from Texas and was introduced in March.  She also sponsored a similar bill in 2005.





So did she know the Heller case would go up to the SCOTUS when she wrote this? And do you have a link to the similar bill. I'd really like to read that.

I would really like to hold out the hope that this legislation would be passed and that the SCOTUS would also hear the Heller case. But I have a feeling we'll end up getting screwed in the end of all of it.
Link Posted: 12/2/2007 9:12:09 PM EDT
[#29]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:
Why now?
Why is this legislation only being presented after Heller has been accepted by the SCOTUS?


It was sponsored by Sen. Kay Hutchison from Texas and was introduced in March.  She also sponsored a similar bill in 2005.





So did she know the Heller case would go up to the SCOTUS when she wrote this? And do you have a link to the similar bill. I'd really like to read that.

I would really like to hold out the hope that this legislation would be passed and that the SCOTUS would also hear the Heller case. But I have a feeling we'll end up getting screwed in the end of all of it.


I'm not sure, but Orrin Hatch sponsored a similar bill in 2003 too.  

www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=s108-1414
Link Posted: 12/2/2007 9:14:44 PM EDT
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Why now?
Why is this legislation only being presented after Heller has been accepted by the SCOTUS?


It was sponsored by Sen. Kay Hutchison from Texas and was introduced in March.  She also sponsored a similar bill in 2005.





So did she know the Heller case would go up to the SCOTUS when she wrote this? And do you have a link to the similar bill. I'd really like to read that.

I would really like to hold out the hope that this legislation would be passed and that the SCOTUS would also hear the Heller case. But I have a feeling we'll end up getting screwed in the end of all of it.


I'm not sure, but Orrin Hatch sponsored a similar bill in 2003 too.  

www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=s108-1414



Thanks, they had a link to it. "S. 1082 [109th]: District of Columbia Personal Protection Act"...DEAD.
Link Posted: 12/2/2007 9:18:12 PM EDT
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Why now?
Why is this legislation only being presented after Heller has been accepted by the SCOTUS?


It was sponsored by Sen. Kay Hutchison from Texas and was introduced in March.  She also sponsored a similar bill in 2005.





So did she know the Heller case would go up to the SCOTUS when she wrote this? And do you have a link to the similar bill. I'd really like to read that.

I would really like to hold out the hope that this legislation would be passed and that the SCOTUS would also hear the Heller case. But I have a feeling we'll end up getting screwed in the end of all of it.


I'm not sure, but Orrin Hatch sponsored a similar bill in 2003 too.  

www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=s108-1414



Thanks, they had a link to it. "S. 1082 [109th]: District of Columbia Personal Protection Act"...DEAD.


The current one is 1001
www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=s110-1001
Link Posted: 12/2/2007 9:20:17 PM EDT
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Uhhhh NO!!!   We are a few months away from something the SCOTUS has been ducking for 70+ years, this is the ultimate in bad timing.


Yep.
Link Posted: 12/2/2007 9:20:52 PM EDT
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Any relief created by Heller v DC would still have to be IMPLIMENTED by legislation by congress.  All SCOTUS would do is remove the old law- it would just leave a vacume.


Incorrect.  Congress doesn't have to legislate anything for us to have the right to keep and bear arms.
Link Posted: 12/2/2007 9:28:35 PM EDT
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Rep Musgrave, Marilyn N. [CO-4] - 4/17/2007

This surprised me. She is all about taking our guns away in CO.


What has Musgrave done to try to take guns away?
Link Posted: 12/2/2007 9:30:32 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 12/2/2007 9:38:11 PM EDT
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15 are from California
Link Posted: 12/2/2007 9:44:29 PM EDT
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Its good to see my Reps on there.

God Bless Texas.

James
Link Posted: 12/2/2007 9:48:12 PM EDT
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Rep Musgrave, Marilyn N. [CO-4] - 4/17/2007

This surprised me. She is all about taking our guns away in CO. h,
Link Posted: 12/2/2007 10:06:02 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 12/2/2007 10:13:52 PM EDT
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This has been coming up ever since 'Heller' was 'Parker'...

It was initiated because many on the pro-gun side do not want to take the chance of an anti-gun ruling...

So the NRA decided to see about getting relief for the DC folks through legislation.
Link Posted: 12/3/2007 3:44:42 AM EDT
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This has been coming up ever since 'Heller' was 'Parker'...

It was initiated because many on the pro-gun side do not want to take the chance of an anti-gun ruling...

So the NRA decided to see about getting relief for the DC folks through legislation.


and mooting the Parker precedent.  
Link Posted: 12/3/2007 3:54:36 AM EDT
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Great to see my Congressman, Virgil Goode is on the list. But not suprised about it, he's a pretty good guy.

Mike
Link Posted: 12/3/2007 4:02:03 AM EDT
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     Rep Paul, Ron [TX-14] - 6/28/2007


I'm glad to see that Representative Moonbat is helping out.



He has the most conservative record of all of the nominee's, doesn't surprise me.

This does though

Rep Drake, Thelma D. [VA-2] - 3/29/2007

She is a democrat, glad to see it though.
Link Posted: 12/3/2007 4:05:55 AM EDT
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Any dems on there want to make Heller v DC moot.


That is 100% what I was thinking.

Post 223, BTW!
Link Posted: 12/3/2007 4:11:34 AM EDT
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After a quick glance, I see no CT reps on that list.

No surprise there, though.

Link Posted: 12/3/2007 4:12:15 AM EDT
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Nope.  AR-15 would not make Heller moot.  M4's would be a step in the right direction but incomplete.  DC has a total ban on handguns.  Heller would continue as long as handguns are arms.
Link Posted: 12/3/2007 4:21:11 AM EDT
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I have already started to contact all my state congresspersons, thanking them for supporting the 2A. Especially the Dems.

I suggests that everyone here do the same.
Link Posted: 12/3/2007 4:27:54 AM EDT
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This has been coming up ever since 'Heller' was 'Parker'...

It was initiated because many on the pro-gun side do not want to take the chance of an anti-gun ruling...

So the NRA decided to see about getting relief for the DC folks through legislation.


This legislation shouldn't affect anything regarding Heller.

The legislation doesn't address the conflict between courts in interpreting a constitutional issue of individual vs. collevtive rights, so the SCOTUS shold still be hearing the case.
Link Posted: 12/3/2007 4:35:45 AM EDT
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I think this is a flanking maneuver.

If Congress makes an end run around the supreme court before it makes a decision then they cal also stipulate the definition of what the 2A means to individuals and leave their current gun control in place.  

This could leave much more gun control in place than if the SCOTUS just said 2A applies to an individual and forces courts and Congress to redefine.  

Congress could come in and say "yes, 2A applies to DC and is an individual right, based on our definition which involves gun control."

SCOTUS may say "yes, 2A applies to DC and is an individual right, now make sure your laws don't restrict the individual right."

The latter is much more favorable to me than the former.
Link Posted: 12/3/2007 4:36:54 AM EDT
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Uhhhh NO!!!   We are a few months away from something the SCOTUS has been ducking for 70+ years, this is the ultimate in bad timing.



I think this was planned.


The tards are scared, that is a good thing.  Cant wait to see the utter horseshit that gets tacked on to this legislation too.  Probably A massive ammunition tax on MIL/LE calibres.



You know, if the SCOTUS does not hear the Heller case and doesn't rule on the side of the 2nd because of this legislation, I am going to NEVER trust in our political process again. If this is the case, you can't trust ANY of them to do the right thing.

As far as I am concerned, if this screws up our chance at finally getting our 2nd Amendment Rights back in full, our "friends" at the NRA and the so called "pro-gun" legislators can KMA. If the Heller case is pulled off the docket because of this, the NRA will NEVER get another dime from me. Period. I am getting really sick and tired of this snow job by our so called friends. I hope I am wrong, but I doubt it.  


Its my understanding that once the Supreme Court agrees to hear a case, its cannot be pulled off the docket. In addition, there is a larger question to be ruled on by the Supremes; whether the 2nd is an individual right or not. Which is not being addressed by the above proposed legislation.
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