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Posted: 12/1/2007 9:36:52 PM EDT
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Yeah and the CO's of the ships are usuallsy CWO's. A lot of BM's from the Coast Guard get out and lateral over to the Army, get an insta-promotion and take command. Pretty cool if you ask me.
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The army has a navy and an air force, and the navy has an army and two air forces. For some reason the air force only has an air force.
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I used to see them all the time in bahrain.
I too was shocked the first time I saw them. |
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We have a Navy too. |
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Now does the Army still practice beach landings like they did back in the day?
Or is that just the USMC now? |
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That's where I used to see them too. |
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Interesting. Where they used in the same manner as the European theater and Pacific or just to get shit ashore on a safe beach. |
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Air Force has land combat assets (SF, Special Tactics, SOF) and there are Air Force Munition Ships. |
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USAF might not have an army yet, but they're working on it. |
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what would you classify SP's, PJ's and FAC's? |
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We actually have TRAINS, too. Yup. They're painted in USAF colors and haul supplies and equipment across the US. |
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SP's and FAC's pretty much stay on the ground, so they'd be army, right? Pj's do weird shit, in the air, ground, water... |
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IIRC, there were more army boats in Vietnam than Navy boats.
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At least two of those are very specific missions. I would argue the cops are fairly mission specific as well. What I am talking about is the training of large numbers of everyday airmen for combat roles. Pesonally, I think PJ's are some of the toughest guys alive. I also know of some special forces types that are Air Force but I don't consider them "army" either. |
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Their are units to take and hold airfields. There are many units to defend airfields. There are units to direct air stirkes. There are units to recover equipment/personnel. Bit more than just cops and PJ's. Don't forget EOD, Red Horse, Combat Weather, Comms and more. Lots of specialities in the USAF have a secondary ground combat function. Typically it is simply to defend themselves, but there is a push from some in the SF community to be more proactive about the ABGD mission like controling the entire AO surounding an airbase with patrols, outposts etc and not just sit inside the wire all the time and only venture out with convoys. |
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Any pics? That sounds pretty cool. |
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So does the Army. You can still enlist as a train engineer in the Reserves. Some have even been to Iraq to help with the Iraqi rail system. |
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I used to work at a ship yard in Charleston and worked on an Army ship it was a dredge
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I've probably been on it. |
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For awhile now:
WW II U.S. Naval Craft Information Total Army vessels minus pontons- 111,006 Total Navy vessels excluding tracked amphibious vehicles- 74,708 |
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The air force has commandos that are sometimes integrated in with ground units and special forces type stuff. My dad (air force doctor) says they are some pretty tough guys.
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Own page 2 of my own thread
Now does the army still practice the clasical / USMC type beach landing or do they jsut use it for equipment like they did in Panama? |
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My brother did 4 years in the Army as a watercraft operator, aka "Army Sailor". He loved it. Just for the irony of it I got a sticker from him that says "Sail Army" with the transportation command's ship's wheel on it.
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Air Force has their Special Ops. There is a large command about 40 miles from me.
Also, the Air Force Combat Controlers defend improv. air strips among their other duties. |
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i think it was called the McFarlen or somthing like that |
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My wife got to ride on that one shortly after it got to Ft. Eustis. It was a smooth ride she said. |
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+1 - I took a few rides to Ft. Sherman |
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The Army has always been appropriately focused on logistics.
We plan ahead, which is why we're tasked with supporting and even replacing the failed USMC logistics model. |
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The Army needs its own nuke ballistic missle subs, that would be cool
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The Air Force does operate at least one ship. Maybe more. I can't recall the details.
CJ |
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How the hell do you miss something that big rolling of the barg and making a splash |
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That was one of the big questions during the investigation. Drinking or screwing was the likely answer, but nothing could be proven. I've got a coffee mug somewhere that has a drawing of an upside down LARC under the water, and it says "Raiders of the Lost LARC". |
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damn, I didnt know that and its great for them to have one incase the navy is to busy lurking some feamles on the shore :)
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which just goes to show, that for anyone considering military service, there is always a way to find your niche. I like it.
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And a deep water port too. |
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Didn't you see Apocalypse Now? IIRC those weren't Navy guys on that boat.
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Wrong. They were Navy. |
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I did but I did not know that had things other than brown water boats.
I did learn to never get off the boat though. |
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Realy I would have sworn they where army. |
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In april of 1991 my unit (Marines) boarded an Army ship to transport our vehicles back south after DS. This ugly fat chick was cooking eggs and bacon and bisquits. She was the most beautiful woman I ever saw. It had been 100 days since my last hot meal.
It was the best meal of my life. Jim |
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Woops.... you're right. My bad. Apocalypse Wiki
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