Hey,

    I've been bouncing around this board on and off for about a year, but I was hoping someone here could relate the whole McUzi / ILuv carrots controversy to me. I see it pop up all the time, and I hate being left in the dark. What's the deal? Fill a brother in please...[thinking]

Long story short...He's been banned a few times, started his own board, someone screwed him over so he closed the board, posted at ak-47.net for a while, came back as I_luv_carrots.

Banned because he is not known for tactful wording.  However, he knows a lot about firearms, and is no dummy.

Edited for spelling

So he claims.  We have yet to see the proof.

There is so much more to this story than most people know, especially the web site...ask RBad for the [i]rest of the story.[/i]

Yes McUzi knows alot about firearms, but he is also a racist and a bigot.  I truly believe the only reason he is allowed back is because of the relationship/activity that occured between AR15.com and McUzi.com.  Not pointing fingers in what went down between these sites, but the fact is McUzi wasn't the actual owner of www.McUzi.com...and as a result he lost in many ways.

Sgtar15

PS then again, I may have made the whole thing up[;)]

I knew it, Imbroglio was the owner, with initials "bw" which stands for

Bert Weynolds [>:/]

You mean Hangfire wasn't the proprietor of McUzi.com...?

...my girlfriend calls me "McHands" [:)]
what's that all about?

McUzi is the man.  Sure, he's blunt and to the point... but in today's PC society it's refreshing to see a man not pull his punches.  I have respect for a man who can state his case intelligently and who isn't afraid of what the consequences might bring.

Hell... I even got to be a moderator on McUzi.com for what was it, a day?  [;)]

Oh well... one day his greatness will be properly honored.


[:D]

McUzi was cool with me. I don't see what others have against him. His site was nice too.

Hitler was reasonably intelligent and didn't pull his punches, either. Do you idolize him, too?

Please... grow up.  I won't even dignify this ignorance with a rebuttal.

Oh Boy!
A new cycle has begun!!!

I don't agree with everything he says, but he's
pretty intelligent, & hell of a writer (when he's not [beer] ).  Even when I can't agree with
him, I still like reading his posts.

Laugh, it would appear so.  I think this is due mostly to the fact that we have an abundance of users who practice a highly degenerated form of "fuzzy" logic.

Example:

Dahh, you write using English therefore you [b]MUST[/b] read English.  If you read English then you must support the Communist Manifesto (English translation of course)!

Argh, such stupidity.  [:D]

... so because you think he's intelligent and a hell of a writer, then you must also think Hitler was a cool cat too!

Hey, I think I'm getting the hang of this stupidity thing!  I'm calling my mom!

[:D]

No, a new cycle has hatched...[IMG]http://www.freakygamers.com/smilies/s/contrib/aahmed/biggrin.gif[/IMG]

Yes we have.

This is a gun forum.

Most likely due to your own inability or unwillingness to acknowledge their similar anti-Semetic/anti-minority views. Do you share them as well?

Would you tolerate someone coming into our house and espousing viewpoints similar to those of the terrorists who attacked us so long as they knew something about guns and didn't pull their punches?

So where do you draw the line? Sounds like someone better get a lint brush and go over himself before calling anyone else fuzzy.

Please quote where I say I agree or disagree with anything McUzi has posted.  C'mon, Mr. Lint Brush, just one sentence.  Ahh, you can't. No kidding.

Look, try and focus.  You're not going to pull the wool over my eyes and I'm not going to allow you to put words in my mouth just so you have something to crusade about.  If you dislike me, great... say so.  But don't lie, fabricate or otherwise try to bullshit me or others.  Most of us are literate and intelligent enough to see through you childish ruses.  

Perhaps I'm being to harsh... maybe your reading skills really suck this bad and I'm tormenting a mental midget.  I would rather believe you're just being argumentative and misinformed... I hate to think I'm beating up on a retarded person.  If I am, please excuse me and accept my apologies.

I said that I admire McUzi's tact.  I didn't say he shouldn't be punted for infractions of the rules or that I agree with anything he says.  Putting words in my mouth only makes you look even more foolish.

Now run along before I'm forced to teach you another lesson.  If you're going to come back for seconds, please try to come up with a defendable position.  I mean seriously, if you're going to take issue with someone, at least have a solid issue first.

Yawn...

I don't know you, have no problem with you, am not trying to pull the wool over your eyes (wherever that came from), and have put no words in you mouth.

I asked a simple question based on your above statement. That statement could also conceivably accurately describe Adolf Hitler or Osama Bin Laden. Perhaps it's too much of a stretch for you, but simple logic would dictate that based on your own reasoning for respecting McUZI, then you would have no choice but to respect those other individuals as well based upon similar reasoning. It really is just a simple question. Perhaps you need to elaborate upon why you think McUZI is so deserving of your respect. I'm genuinely curious.

Personally, I'm a bit more discriminate on whom I would give my respect too, let alone publicly acknowledging it. It sure won't be someone who has posted and obviously subscribes to the racist and biggoted filth that McUZI has or is the type of class act that steals pictures of his girlfriend naked and posts them on the Internet without permission. Frankly, as a Marine, which I assume your sig pic indicates, I would have thought your own standards to be a litle higher as well.  

Boomer, you truly are a fool.
The blade of the "racist racist racist [>(]" sword doesn't slice this kid. You look a hell of a lot dumber as a minority apologist than I do speaking the facts.
So, call me a racist if you will. That's ok. Coming from someone who has taken it upon himself to be one of the grand defenders of them, it doesn't mean much. They just keep making people like you look bad with their actions- and you just keep apologizing on their behalf.
And though we have been conditioned as a society to blindly accept them, I have faith there are at least a handful of folks who broken out of the shackles that lock tier mind, and see certain demographics for what they really are. You aren't one of them. Now hurry along. I'm sure there is something on the TelAvivsion you would surely like to absorb.

To everyone else) Thanks or kiss my ass. Which ever applies to you, that's my reply.
I'm here to BS with gun owners.
Not always about guns- but in a setting where the people I commiserate with know the difference between an A1 or an A2 should it enter the conversation.

A lot of what is posted here is based on experience with certain individuals. Like it or not, you cannot deny a man's experience, even if it offends your sensibilities.

The good old McUzi female dog slap! Kick some rear end McUzi!

edited to change [b]bitch[/b] to [b]female dog[/b] and [b]ass[/b] to [b]rear end[/b] so as not to offend.

Okay, so then are you lending some legitimacy to the conclusions that, say, Sarah Brady, has drawn from her experiences? Or maybe Dianne Feinstein? Janet Reno?

Or would you agree that while their experiences themselves may be undeniable, the conclusions drawn from them can be quite misguided?

Yeah, that's me. Boomer, apologist of the minorities. Good luck proving it.

Put me down as Pro-McUzi. I'm not in lock step with him. I don't allways agree with him. I think he is intelligent, witty and humorous. Hell I'd like to buy him a beer or 12. He is at least honest. I know where he is coming from as opposed to many of his detractors.

Well, both Feinscum and Bradyscum have direct experience in terms of firearms violence. However, their experience is primarily with violence; firearms were simply the means used to accomplish an end. They both chose to twist their experiences, to spin them, to further an unrelated agenda. Therefore, while their experiences may have validity, the conclusions and/or behavior that resulted from those experiences are invalid and dishonest.

No, I disagree that the conclusions that resulted from their experiences are misguided. Their conclusions are dishonest. There's a difference.

Hmmmm... We'd better be careful here. Members might get the notion that such a statement could accurately reflect the conclusions someone else has drawn from limited experiences with people different from themselves.

Actually you have.  You've tried to insult me by attempting to tie my comments about McUzi's posting behavior to an admiration of one of the worlds most notable butchers.

You know full well the scope of your comments and I suspect you also knew they would be highly offensive.  You also know they were uncalled for and insulting.  Back peddle all you wish, but your comments are here for all to see.

Why do you now elect to include Bin Laden?  Trying and sneak in another punch?  Do you really think this sophomoric tactic is bettering your position?

And your use of the English language and desire to apply logic could be extrapolated to mean you support the actions of Bill Clinton.  A stretch?  No more so than saying my finding McUzi's posting behavior (NOT CONTENT) entertaining and refreshing in a PC world is liken to Adolph Hitler's politics or genocidal practices.  You made the first "stretch" and it was intended to defame me.  That's obvious regardless of your efforts now to mask your comments for what they were, insults.

There was no reason to imply that I'm a fascist or that I support a man commonly associated with genocide.

Grow up.

There is nothing simple about the "logic" you've attempted to apply.  You weren't as concerned about the application of logic as you were trying to be an insulting smartass.  Again, you can back peddle all you want and pretend you were well intentioned, but it's not working.

Try apologizing for purposely being insulting and I'll try to elaborate to your satisfaction.  If not, do as Bin Laden does and go pound sand.

So you obviously have a beef with McUzi and I'm just the most convenient conduit for you to vent your hatred.  So now we get to the source of your frustration...

Oh another Marine comment.  Oh, how surprising. What is it with people who are so insecure with their own positions in a conversation that they predictably attempt to insult someone's service to their country.  It never works and the poster inevitably loses face with the readers of the thread.  It's amazing how frequently this occurs.  It must be a tactic outlined in some "Dummies Guide to Winning an Indefensible Position Online" book I've missed.  What do you hope to accomplish in attacking a mans service to their country and more importantly, what does it have to do with the topic at hand?

Again, grow up.

ROTFLMAO!

Yeah Matt.
You'd better be careful, or else Boomer might call you a RACIST~! [>(]

Tooooooo damn funny.
He's no better than a fucking crat. Using the "racist" tactic whenever he gets his ass iced in an argument.

Matt, [beer] to you. Racist, not racist- whatever you are, you just exposed Boomer better than I ever have.

Props to McCarrots,

For speaking your mind, regardless of the PC attitude of others.  Not all opinions are shared by all.  McUzi is actually someone who's posts I look foreward to reading. His posts are usually well grounded in some fact whether you agree with them or not.  

Chris Williams

Edited to add:

Hitler had a mission to kill all jews, I have never heard McUzi say he wished to kill all "Negroes", he just has stated several times that he doesn't care for them, which is his right.  I don't care for a whole lot of types of people but I hardly think I am comparable to Hitler.

[img]http://www.us-israel.org/jsource/images/People/waxman.jpg[/img]

[size=4]WAXMAN!!!!![/size=4]

Seems to me all the McUzi dude was doing with mcuzi.com was having some fun.  Fun at the expense of others?  Perhaps.  So what?  This is the world wide web....not a black and white television with just three or four channels and a rotating antenna.  If you don't like what's written, you can challenge or ignore or go somewhere else.  So simple that even a chimpanzee can figure it out.  Anyone that is going to be offended or hurt by what they read in an ANONYMOUS forum needs to look up the word "virtual" in the dictionary and commit it to memory.  Until a poster wants to reveal his real name and real phone number and pick up the phone when it rings, then it's got all the validity of text on a bathroom wall.

So, who has a kid sitting on their lap when they are taking a crap in a public restroom?

Yeah, our good friend McUZI doesn't have a history of behavior here on the forums, does he? My God how short a memory some of you have.

As usual you hit the nail on the head again Mc_I_Luv_Carrots. Keep up the great posts. Guess I'll get called a racist now. Oh well.

So you're the thought police, eh?  Thanks for the warning officer, I'll be on my way now.

Well, let's see exactly what you said, not what you're trying to say while doing the back stoke:

Wow, that looks more like a statement than a question.  There doesn't appear to be any aspirations of "hope" in this sentence... nope, it definitely appears to say you expect more of Marines.

Are you or were you a Marine?  I suspect the answer is "no".  If I'm right then you're in no position to judge me, my thoughts or my actions.

Really?  Laugh, I think not.  I've addressed each one of your insulting and moronic comments item by item.  You're the only one buying your bullshit.

Chimborazo is Mcloser? You must be to think the above statement

You are correct, I should have used the term "hope". My apologies to you and any other Marine I may have offended by such a lapse. It was not my intent to issue a McUZI-esque blanket generalization.  



No, I am not and never have been. I do however, have several friends and colleagues who have served in the Corps. My son plans to enlist in the Marines after the beginning of the year, too.




No, you have only offered elementary level insults and ambiguous circular responses instead of direct answers.

Yup, that's me, great defender and apologist for minorities and reserve thought cop. Pretty much sums it up. A simple check using the SEARCH function should verify that. Go ahead.

Thank you and apology accepted.

I disagree.  Please share with me the issue(s) you feel I've dodged.

The only "issue" I see is the one I've purposely avoided until you've met my conditions.  I didn't attempt to evade any of your questions or comments, but I did tell you if you apologized for insulting me with your Hitler (and later Bin Laden) comments I would respond to your request for me to elaborate regarding the enjoyment I get out of McUzi's posts.  Thus far it is you who has avoided comment, or should I say avoided offering an apology.

I don't believe I brought up posts you've made in the past nor did I accuse you of being an apologist for minorities.

You did make a comment about who I should or shouldn't "respect" and for that I made the thought police comment.  Not really that hard to follow, but play your games if you must.

The salient word here is "limited". Most would agree it's unwise to come to any kind of determination based on limited experience. Substitute "vast" for "limited" and one has to listen.

McUzi is dead.  I heard something about a Gyro Jet accident.  I_Luv_Carrots is a new guy.

I too always liked McCarrots unique way of "telling it like it is".  He has the balls to do that and 99.9% of the time could back up what he said with accurate, well thought out, thought provoking arguments/comments/data.  

Did I agree with everything that I saw, heard or read on McUzi.com.  Of course not!  That is why I liked it.  It allowed a much needed space to vent!  No pussyfooting around, no choosing your words carefully least you piss off a "god-erator".  You stood on your own two feet.  No sniveling whiners (or at least very few) lurking there waiting like rabid hyenas, wetting their fingers and sticking them in the wind ready to pounce on those who didn't toe the PC line.  For the 90 or so days it was up and running it was like a well needed breath of fresh air in a much too PC (IMHO) cyberspace.

Ooops...guess that makes me a racist too!

I coined that term you know... laugh, I've now seen it on several boards since I used it on McUzi.

I wonder if I'll get a cute little trophy or something one day...

[img]http://www.us-israel.org/jsource/images/People/waxman.jpg[/img]
[size=6]WAXMAN SAYS YOU ALL ARE DAMNED RACISTS[size=6]

I love McI_Luv_Carrots_&_Uzi's [:D]

HEHE

Chris Williams