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Posted: 10/11/2007 12:39:10 PM EDT
[#1]
You shouldn't.
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Posted: 10/11/2007 12:39:38 PM EDT
[#2]
For one, he and Congress will be of opposite parties, resulting in some amount of gridlock. If Hillary gets in while there is a Democratic majority in Congress, I expect they will call it a "mandate" and go all-out on a socialist agenda, including wide-ranging universal health care and significant tax increases. |
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Posted: 10/11/2007 12:39:50 PM EDT
[#3]
what he said. |
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Posted: 10/11/2007 12:40:32 PM EDT
[#4]
It comes down to wether or not you want to vote the Republican party line or the Democratic party line. We're fucked either way.
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Posted: 10/11/2007 12:41:03 PM EDT
[#5]
Shh.... I'm baiting... |
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Posted: 10/11/2007 12:41:05 PM EDT
[#6]
9/11... I mean, HE WAS THERE MAN. Ask him.
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Posted: 10/11/2007 12:42:17 PM EDT
[#7]
Oh shit! My bad. 
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Posted: 10/11/2007 12:42:19 PM EDT
[#8]
Fail. This is a "Not Hillary Arguement" And you have no proof Congress will turn democratic. Typically the peridency is of the opposite party as congress - the way the American people like it. Try again. |
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Posted: 10/11/2007 12:42:47 PM EDT
[#9]
Fail. This is not something he WILL do that will benefit me. |
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Posted: 10/11/2007 12:43:10 PM EDT
[#10]
Free market economics and strict constructionist judges.
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Posted: 10/11/2007 12:44:02 PM EDT
[#11]
he won't move to nationalize heath care, for starters.
We KNOW Clinton will attempt to. |
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Posted: 10/11/2007 12:44:55 PM EDT
[#12]
Leaving the markets be is an inaction, not an action. Thus he isn't doing anything. Bullshit on appointing strict constructionist judges. |
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Posted: 10/11/2007 12:45:18 PM EDT
[#13]
Fail. This is a "not Hillary" argument. |
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Posted: 10/11/2007 12:46:50 PM EDT
[#14]
If nothing else, judges.
But I can mention, the war, taxes, Congress coattails, the cabinet, UN appoinments, ambassabors, etc....... |
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Posted: 10/11/2007 12:47:10 PM EDT
[#15]
 Stop wasting time and just state your point.
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Posted: 10/11/2007 12:47:16 PM EDT
[#16]
Dude,
He's got great fashion sense. FABULOUS!!      Kevin "Super!" |
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Posted: 10/11/2007 12:47:36 PM EDT
[#17]
For the same reason you should vote for Al Gore - he isn't Hillary.
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Posted: 10/11/2007 12:47:43 PM EDT
[#18]
He's said he'll appoint scalia and thomas-esque judges, and he's appointed judges in the past that havent been moonbats. |
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Posted: 10/11/2007 12:47:51 PM EDT
[#19]
What about the war? What about taxes? What about the cabinet? Bullshit on appointing acceptable judges. And what about UN appointments? |
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Posted: 10/11/2007 12:48:23 PM EDT
[#20]
It's a bit early for Rudy vs. Hillary.
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Posted: 10/11/2007 12:48:36 PM EDT
[#21]
well, it looks like we're gonna have someone wearing a dress in the white house, just not sure who. |
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Posted: 10/11/2007 12:48:44 PM EDT
[#22]
 I was being facetious rtard. |
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Posted: 10/11/2007 12:50:29 PM EDT
[#23]
 "Said" "not being retarded" is hardly a glowing qualification for a job....his appointments are unsatisfactorily average and they come from a New York socialist background. This world view will carry over when selecting federal judges and all appointments will be in an effort to make the courts more like the "conservative" new york. This is unsat. |
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Posted: 10/11/2007 12:54:01 PM EDT
[#24]
You're just making excuses to justify your vote for hillary. He's said he'll appoint strict constructionists and he's got a republican base that will lynch him he doesn't. |
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Posted: 10/11/2007 12:55:40 PM EDT
[#25]
So I don't believe him. Any other reason I should vote for him? |
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Posted: 10/11/2007 12:57:07 PM EDT
[#26]
You never finished off the economics question. Do you want to vote for a free market or for socialism? |
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Posted: 10/11/2007 12:59:48 PM EDT
[#27]
If there is one person you do not want as a president, it should be Hitlery.
Rudy isnt my choice, but if he gets the nod I will vote for him. Dubya wasnt our favorite either. But, he is surrounded by a Republican cabinet, Sr Republican Congressmen, and MAJOR Republican power and lobbyists. Would you rather have a so-so Rebublican president surrounded by other Republicans who we do like? Or.... would you rather have Hitlery surrounded by powerful and very influential DemocRatic congressmen, lobbyists, and a communist cabinet. Pick your poison. At least you'll be able to recover from the Republican poison. Think about it before you write in your vote for a person who can not win.  |
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Posted: 10/11/2007 1:12:38 PM EDT
[#28]
He knows that we must fight to prevail.
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Posted: 10/11/2007 1:25:59 PM EDT
[#29]
We have no proof congress will turn democratic? It already is democratic. You lose, try again. Also, all signs point to the democratic party picking up more seats. You lose again. |
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Posted: 10/11/2007 1:27:21 PM EDT
[#30]
Because you really want a benevolent dictator...
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Posted: 10/11/2007 2:14:40 PM EDT
[#31]
All would be better off under Rudy than Hillary. |
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Posted: 10/11/2007 2:16:06 PM EDT
[#32]
You have to admit his tax policy would be better than Hillary's. If you don't than you just are being obstinate. |
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Posted: 10/11/2007 2:16:56 PM EDT
[#33]
fuck rudy
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Posted: 10/11/2007 2:17:22 PM EDT
[#34]
Historically in a totally open Pres race with no incumbants the winner has very large coattails. The party that wins in 08 will control Congress for at least 2. |
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Posted: 10/11/2007 2:17:52 PM EDT
[#35]
Agree. But fuck Hillary more. |
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Posted: 10/11/2007 2:22:52 PM EDT
[#36]
Leaving the markets alone is what the president should be doing. And appointing strict constructionist judges is something the president should be doing. In fact, those two things are more important than gun control legislation. Furthermore, most of the candidates lack executive (i.e., leadership) experience. On the R side Rudy and Mitt have it, on the D side Richardson has it (and Richardson won't be at the top of the D ticket in 2008). |
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Posted: 10/11/2007 2:24:27 PM EDT
[#37]
A vote for Giuliani is a vote for a "lesser evil". As long as we keep actively choosing a government that isn't quite as bad as the alternative, we will continue to have bad government.
Let the Republicans fail, and learn that they need to actually start representing the wishes of the average American. But if we keep propping them up, no matter what they do or say, they're just going to take our vote for granted and then try to out-Socialist each other to collect enough votes to go over the top. |
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Posted: 10/11/2007 2:25:24 PM EDT
[#38]
Ron is 100% unqualified due to his 1960s-era 'All we are saaa-ying... Is give peace a chance' foreign polcy... Hillary is allready planning 750 billion in new welfare spending, and is likely to have her husband's foreign policy 'priorities' (no war for oil or to destroy Al Queda, but we'll go to war over a barren rockpile because someone over there is being 'mean' to someone else - in the name of the UN of course)... IF, and I say IF Guliani becomes the nominee... You vote for him because while not ideal, he is better than the other 2, and less likely to do damage.... Most of the major issues that we worry about (such as gun control) are able to be 'held down' by Congress... Note how much gun control made it out of Congress in the last 8 years... If a Republican - even Rudy - wins in 08, he WILL improve our congressional position as well... And the folks who *run* Congress with the GOP in charge are not RINOs (although some of their subordinates are).... Finally, Rudy will continue the 'realignment' of the USSC.... |
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Posted: 10/11/2007 2:26:05 PM EDT
[#39]
You should vote for rudy if you believe in civilian disarmament, infanticide, that good citizenship=total obedience to the state. If you have the soul of a slave, you should vote for rudy. If you think adolf hitler was just misunderstood, rudy is your man.
If you are not a conservative and believe that having the all mighty " R " behind your name means you can do no wrong, by all means vote for that facist prick. If you are big on sanctuary cities for illegals, as NYC was under rudy, vote for him and you can help make the entire country a sanctuary for illegals. |
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Posted: 10/11/2007 2:26:43 PM EDT
[#40]
Not nationalizing healthcare is important. If it is nationalized things will get seriously fucked up. And not just for us--think of the poor Canadians who come to the US for prompt, quality healthcare. They will be screwed. |
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Posted: 10/11/2007 2:27:47 PM EDT
[#41]
I'm not sure; ill wait for I Like Legs to chime in. 
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Posted: 10/11/2007 2:28:14 PM EDT
[#42]
he dosent have cankles...thats the only reason I could think of?
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Posted: 10/11/2007 2:33:31 PM EDT
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I will give you that, from everything I have heard him say he does intend to continue the war against islamofacism. But would his version of America be worth fighting for? If you think the BATFE is a bunch of baby killing JBT now, wait untill they are given a free hand by our new fuhrer rudy. Remember the special antigun units the NYPD under rudy formed to " get guns off the streets "  One such unit shot an unarmed man a metric buttload of times cause he had his wallet in his hand and they thought he had a gun, just wait untill the BATFE gets them some of that!
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Posted: 10/11/2007 2:41:09 PM EDT
[#44]
It's the best reason so far on this thread. 
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Posted: 10/11/2007 2:45:54 PM EDT
[#45]
How many more of these same Giuliani/Clinton threads do we need? I'm really beginning to think some of you want a Clinton back in the White House. Actually it will be two President Clinton's back in the White House. How any of you can even stand the thought of that is beyond me.
If you can't figure out on your own why we as a nation would be better off with Giuliani as POTUS instead of Clinton or Obama I doubt anyone here could convince you. |
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Posted: 10/11/2007 2:46:38 PM EDT
[#46]
Are they? I haven't heard of any problems since W was elected.
It was the Street Crime Unit who shot Diallo, and they approached him because he looked like a serial rapist. |
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Posted: 10/11/2007 2:54:28 PM EDT
[#47]
Please spare us your Chicken Little "The Sky is Falling" BS. Would you prefer Hillary and Bill Clinton's version of America? I'm sure "but there is no difference" crowd will jump all over that after they consult their magic crystal ball. |
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Posted: 10/11/2007 2:57:13 PM EDT
[#48]
so far, OP is the one who has the biggest pile of FAIL.
elections are choices it's impossible to evaluate a candidate in a vacuum, because "nobody" will not be a choice on the ballot |
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Posted: 10/11/2007 2:58:53 PM EDT
[#49]
This is all you need to know. It will be repeated innumerable times and in different ways over the next 13 months (assuming Rudy gets the nomination), but this is essentially all you need to know for Rudy vs Hillary. All else is extraneous. |
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Posted: 10/11/2007 6:40:24 PM EDT
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Well, one thing he will "do" is not "be" Hillary. The current president had plans that were primarly domestic, events changed the course of things and he will be primarly known for his international actions. "No plan survise contact with the enemy" sort thing; Rudy's plans are not so much important as how he reacts to events. Your demand to know Rudy's plan is silly; right now we are faced with several Republican candidate. Choose the one you like. Then, when the general comes around you will vote for the Republican candidate--if you are smart. |
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