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Posted: 10/11/2007 11:29:53 AM EDT
The hillary or rudy thread got me thinking.

Could I keep the barrels, stocks, magazines, etc.?  By their definitions, the receiver is the gun, right?

Regardless, I've decided I'll cut them all in half - I wouldn't want them being used against me.

Anyone know what was done in Australia or England?

eta: I'm serious, please limit the "cold dead hands, I'm a tough guy" responses.

Link Posted: 10/11/2007 11:32:12 AM EDT
[#1]
Look up "refreshing the Liberty tree" for your answer.

Link Posted: 10/11/2007 11:32:15 AM EDT
[#2]
I lost all mine in a boating accident.

Link Posted: 10/11/2007 11:40:41 AM EDT
[#3]
What is the point of keeping the upper etc?


They can't be used.  It is unlikely they would have much value at that point either.
Link Posted: 10/11/2007 11:43:50 AM EDT
[#4]

Quoted:
What is the point of keeping the upper etc?


They can't be used.  It is unlikely they would have much value at that point either.




Upper would be harder to make on your own...


I really need a new boat but man I want a new semi auto .50, guess I'll buy a new bailing bucket instead...
Link Posted: 10/11/2007 11:44:37 AM EDT
[#5]

Quoted:
What is the point of keeping the upper etc?


They can't be used.  It is unlikely they would have much value at that point either.


You could fashion a grip on the carry handle, hold it upside down, and buy a hammer and solder the head of a nail on it.  Yup, that would work.  

Link Posted: 10/11/2007 11:44:50 AM EDT
[#6]
What guns?

Link Posted: 10/11/2007 11:46:40 AM EDT
[#7]

Quoted:
What is the point of keeping the upper etc?


They can't be used.  It is unlikely they would have much value at that point either.


Some parts may be resold to airsoft people, police looking to buy personal spares, etc.  

Might also keep it in case the "ban" was eventually revoked.

Mostly I'd like to keep the other parts so that they don't have a working/useful gun, and they couldn't resell the items.

Link Posted: 10/11/2007 11:48:50 AM EDT
[#8]
you should start by turning in your ammo . . . one round at a time . . .

Link Posted: 10/11/2007 12:27:59 PM EDT
[#9]
Guns?  What guns?  Tragic boating accident....

If they press the issue, well then I'll hand over the bullets first and then bug the fuck out to lead a life of crime.

I'll buy a black van and paint a red stripe down the middle....

Link Posted: 10/11/2007 12:30:47 PM EDT
[#10]
There won't be Aussie or UK style mass confiscation/turn ins in the USA. Frog meet pot.
Link Posted: 10/11/2007 12:32:26 PM EDT
[#11]
Breaking on FOX!!!! A guy by the name of readytorock556 on a militia forum was gunned down today in an epic battle to confiscate his weapons. The last words out of his mouth was Molon Labe and then commited killing in mass, all mainstrem news crews were killed on scene!!

Link Posted: 10/11/2007 12:32:27 PM EDT
[#12]

Quoted:
There won't be Aussie or UK style mass confiscation/turn ins in the USA. Frog meet pot.


Not in the near future...But I see one 'trying' before I die.

I am 34.

We'll see.
Link Posted: 10/11/2007 12:33:14 PM EDT
[#13]
I'm not turning ANYTHING in.
Link Posted: 10/11/2007 12:40:41 PM EDT
[#14]
First comes registration

Second comes confiscation

Third comes genocide
Link Posted: 10/11/2007 12:45:15 PM EDT
[#15]
That is a chilling picture.

Link Posted: 10/11/2007 12:48:17 PM EDT
[#16]
Don't worry.  They will come search your house.
Link Posted: 10/11/2007 12:50:40 PM EDT
[#17]
Most likely guns and gun paraphilia.

Link Posted: 10/11/2007 12:50:45 PM EDT
[#18]

Quoted:
Don't worry.  They will come search your house.


I'm not worried, I just want to know what will be classified as "contraband".

Link Posted: 10/11/2007 12:59:01 PM EDT
[#19]
Can somebody explain to me how a country that has - within the last 10 years - seen it's states once again allowing citizens to walk around in public armed, pass legislation granting immunity to gun manufacturers when their product was used illegally, and seen it's states pass Castle Doctrine legislation one by one, would all of a sudden begin confiscating all guns?

Can somebody explain this to me? Many states (except the usual suspects) have seen their gun laws relaxed in the last 10 years. How is this a precursor to confiscation? Shit, the Supreme Court is likely to declare the 2nd an individual right. Gun laws are being lightened up all over the country, and you dudes are convinced you'll be handing them in.

Back in 1968, I'd almost see your point. But in 2007? Pffft.
Link Posted: 10/11/2007 1:04:10 PM EDT
[#20]
They aren't just going to want your guns, they're going to want ANYTHING that can possibly be used as a weapon.  They're going to come for your:


  • Scopes

  • Slings

  • Ammo

  • Mags

  • Blackpowder

  • Handloading equipment

  • Antiques (C&R's too)

  • Airguns

  • Airsoft equipment

  • Paintball equipment

  • Tactical gear

  • Knives

  • Pipe

  • Nails



These fuckers want it all.  The only alternative to surrenderring your property is MOLON LABE.  
Link Posted: 10/11/2007 1:05:02 PM EDT
[#21]

Quoted:
That is a chilling picture.



The Germans were by no means the only ones doing such things either.  Stalin and Mao made Hitler look like a schoolyard bully.


Trust one thing soldiers will follow orders.

Link Posted: 10/11/2007 1:06:35 PM EDT
[#22]

Quoted:

Quoted:
That is a chilling picture.



The Germans were by no means the only ones doing such things either.  Stalin and Mao made Hitler look like a schoolyard bully.


Trust one thing soldiers will follow orders.


Anyone with authority will follow orders over zealously.  Look at NOLA and the CHP.
Link Posted: 10/11/2007 1:08:40 PM EDT
[#23]

Quoted:
Anyone with authority will follow orders over zealously.  Look at NOLA and the CHP.


And big green. Everybody keeps giving them a free pass.
Link Posted: 10/11/2007 1:09:31 PM EDT
[#24]

Quoted:
Can somebody explain to me how a country that has - within the last 10 years - seen it's states once again allowing citizens to walk around in public armed, pass legislation granting immunity to gun manufacturers when their product was used illegally, and seen it's states pass Castle Doctrine legislation one by one, would all of a sudden begin confiscating all guns?

Can somebody explain this to me? Many states (except the usual suspects) have seen their gun laws relaxed in the last 10 years. How is this a precursor to confiscation? Shit, the Supreme Court is likely to declare the 2nd an individual right. Gun laws are being lightened up all over the country, and you dudes are convinced you'll be handing them in.

Back in 1968, I'd almost see your point. But in 2007? Pffft.


Your Soooooooooooo in time out.

Republicans have been in the white house for the past 8 years.  That may have something to do with the above.  That may not (probably won't be ) be true after the next election.

Link Posted: 10/11/2007 1:14:43 PM EDT
[#25]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Anyone with authority will follow orders over zealously.  Look at NOLA and the CHP.


And big green. Everybody keeps giving them a free pass.


I honestly think .mil would treat us just a hair better than Iraqis if martial law were declared.

Seeing the searching and confiscation at the Super Dome was unforgettable.

Link Posted: 10/11/2007 1:18:11 PM EDT
[#26]

Quoted:
I lost all mine in a boating accident.


The winner


Page 2 is mine

Link Posted: 10/11/2007 1:19:21 PM EDT
[#27]

Quoted:
Can somebody explain to me how a country that has - within the last 10 years - seen it's states once again allowing citizens to walk around in public armed, pass legislation granting immunity to gun manufacturers when their product was used illegally, and seen it's states pass Castle Doctrine legislation one by one, would all of a sudden begin confiscating all guns?

Can somebody explain this to me? Many states (except the usual suspects) have seen their gun laws relaxed in the last 10 years. How is this a precursor to confiscation? Shit, the Supreme Court is likely to declare the 2nd an individual right. Gun laws are being lightened up all over the country, and you dudes are convinced you'll be handing them in.

Back in 1968, I'd almost see your point. But in 2007? Pffft.


 The desire of the hildabeast is to disarm those that oppose her socialist workers utopia.  If given the power hitlery would do it today.  Count on it.  she has murdered before.

Link Posted: 10/11/2007 1:36:14 PM EDT
[#28]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Can somebody explain to me how a country that has - within the last 10 years - seen it's states once again allowing citizens to walk around in public armed, pass legislation granting immunity to gun manufacturers when their product was used illegally, and seen it's states pass Castle Doctrine legislation one by one, would all of a sudden begin confiscating all guns?

Can somebody explain this to me? Many states (except the usual suspects) have seen their gun laws relaxed in the last 10 years. How is this a precursor to confiscation? Shit, the Supreme Court is likely to declare the 2nd an individual right. Gun laws are being lightened up all over the country, and you dudes are convinced you'll be handing them in.

Back in 1968, I'd almost see your point. But in 2007? Pffft.


Your Soooooooooooo in time out.

Republicans have been in the white house for the past 8 years.  That may have something to do with the above.  That may not (probably won't be ) be true after the next election.





THe White House doesn't have anything to do with what he was saying. THe gains made in gun rights in recent years have occurred in state legislatures.

Gun owners have had a hellavu ride in my state in recent years: CCW, gun confiscation ban, castle doctrine, repeal of our old Jim Crow handgun permit law. It's been good.

Link Posted: 10/11/2007 1:40:55 PM EDT
[#29]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:
Anyone with authority will follow orders over zealously.  Look at NOLA and the CHP.


And big green. Everybody keeps giving them a free pass.


I honestly think .mil would treat us just a hair better than Iraqis if martial law were declared.

Seeing the searching and confiscation at the Super Dome was unforgettable.


Your post suggest US troops in general mistreat Iraqi civilians. Nothing could be further from the truth.
Link Posted: 10/11/2007 3:39:57 PM EDT
[#30]

Quoted:
The hillary or rudy thread got me thinking.

Could I keep the barrels, stocks, magazines, etc.?  By their definitions, the receiver is the gun, right?

Regardless, I've decided I'll cut them all in half - I wouldn't want them being used against me.

Anyone know what was done in Australia or England?

eta: I'm serious, please limit the "cold dead hands, I'm a tough guy" responses.


I'm serious too.  They can have the whole thing.  Afterwards.

Link Posted: 10/11/2007 3:40:37 PM EDT
[#31]

Quoted:

Quoted:
What is the point of keeping the upper etc?


They can't be used.  It is unlikely they would have much value at that point either.


Some parts may be resold to airsoft people, police looking to buy personal spares, etc.  

Might also keep it in case the "ban" was eventually revoked.

Mostly I'd like to keep the other parts so that they don't have a working/useful gun, and they couldn't resell the items.


Why don't you just get rid of them now.

Link Posted: 10/11/2007 8:02:52 PM EDT
[#32]
I think the OP is too concerned with what "they" will "allow" him to own.

He should be more concerned with if "they" outlaw his guns, what is he going to do about it.

The real question is, why do they want to take our firearms so badly?  It is almost a religion to the left, that we "little people" need to be disarmed.  It is certainly not about crime.

Real question #2, what will they do to us after they disarm us?

Answer:  Anything they want.
Link Posted: 10/11/2007 8:14:37 PM EDT
[#33]

Quoted:
Why don't you just get rid of them now.


No shit.
Link Posted: 10/11/2007 8:21:49 PM EDT
[#34]

Quoted:
What is the point of keeping the upper etc?


They can't be used.  It is unlikely they would have much value at that point either.


Its still legal to cut your own lowers ..

Link Posted: 10/12/2007 4:57:29 AM EDT
[#35]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:
What is the point of keeping the upper etc?


They can't be used.  It is unlikely they would have much value at that point either.


Some parts may be resold to airsoft people, police looking to buy personal spares, etc.  

Might also keep it in case the "ban" was eventually revoked.

Mostly I'd like to keep the other parts so that they don't have a working/useful gun, and they couldn't resell the items.


Why don't you just get rid of them now.


b/c I might need them tomorrow, and I can still use them legally.

Link Posted: 10/12/2007 4:59:04 AM EDT
[#36]

Quoted:
Can somebody explain to me how a country that has - within the last 10 years - seen it's states once again allowing citizens to walk around in public armed, pass legislation granting immunity to gun manufacturers when their product was used illegally, and seen it's states pass Castle Doctrine legislation one by one, would all of a sudden begin confiscating all guns?

Can somebody explain this to me? Many states (except the usual suspects) have seen their gun laws relaxed in the last 10 years. How is this a precursor to confiscation? Shit, the Supreme Court is likely to declare the 2nd an individual right. Gun laws are being lightened up all over the country, and you dudes are convinced you'll be handing them in.

Back in 1968, I'd almost see your point. But in 2007? Pffft.


If there is one thing that liberals know well, it's that federal law > state law.  One federal law can overpower 50 state laws.  We've seen it before in other areas; as well as, gun rights.

Link Posted: 10/12/2007 5:44:03 AM EDT
[#37]
Guns are icky. Sure, I post on a really big gun board on the internet, but it's just for entertainment to fulfill my fantasies of serving my government. All I've got is a single shot .410 shotgun from about 1951 that I use for hunting.

Link Posted: 10/12/2007 5:51:17 AM EDT
[#38]
Nothing's getting turned in.
Link Posted: 10/12/2007 6:05:47 AM EDT
[#39]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:
What is the point of keeping the upper etc?


They can't be used.  It is unlikely they would have much value at that point either.


Some parts may be resold to airsoft people, police looking to buy personal spares, etc.  

Might also keep it in case the "ban" was eventually revoked.

Mostly I'd like to keep the other parts so that they don't have a working/useful gun, and they couldn't resell the items.


Why don't you just get rid of them now.


b/c I might need them tomorrow, and I can still use them legally.


Jesus.  Tell your wife you need your dick and nuts back.

Link Posted: 10/12/2007 6:13:38 AM EDT
[#40]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:
Anyone with authority will follow orders over zealously.  Look at NOLA and the CHP.


And big green. Everybody keeps giving them a free pass.


I honestly think .mil would treat us just a hair better than Iraqis if martial law were declared.

Seeing the searching and confiscation at the Super Dome was unforgettable.



It sure put things in perspective, Katrina was a lesson if we fail to learn from it... we get what we deserve.



Link Posted: 10/12/2007 6:22:43 AM EDT
[#41]

Quoted:
What guns?
Link Posted: 10/12/2007 6:28:34 AM EDT
[#42]
They will never confiscate. They know what will happen.

Link Posted: 10/12/2007 6:29:56 AM EDT
[#43]
What guns?

Link Posted: 10/12/2007 6:30:31 AM EDT
[#44]
I will not turn in shit.  Period.  I've made my decision.

Link Posted: 10/12/2007 6:31:15 AM EDT
[#45]
Come and Take Them, Mother Fuckers.

Link Posted: 10/12/2007 6:33:52 AM EDT
[#46]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:
Anyone with authority will follow orders over zealously.  Look at NOLA and the CHP.


And big green. Everybody keeps giving them a free pass.


I honestly think .mil would treat us just a hair better than Iraqis if martial law were declared.

Seeing the searching and confiscation at the Super Dome was unforgettable.


en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milgram_experiment

I would like to think so, but I wouldn't depend on it.
Link Posted: 10/12/2007 7:14:51 AM EDT
[#47]
I don't care what it is, I am not giving up anyting. period
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