Tonight, some chick I WAS chattin up decided to ask me about some political stuff. Regular light conversation till I used the term "sheep". I wasn't actually calling her one, but she got all pissy. I even got to work in a BlackHawk down quote
The rest of conversation went like this:
Her: Not everyone who doesn't think like you is a sheep though
Me: Depends on your point of view
Her: I don't think exactly like you and I'm no sheep
Me: It's not so much about ones thought process as it is point of view, it's hard to explain
Her: Try?
Me: Anyone that thinks the government is there to help them, anyone that thinks cops will protect you so you shouldn't protect yourself, anyone that thinks diplomacy works, or that we, as individuals or as a country shouldn't fuck people up that attack us, are sheep. People that whine about war, or think Iraq isn't beneficial to us, are sheep, They don't understand reality. The reality is that certain Muslim extremists want us dead. A lot of people want us dead, the only solution is to kill them first. The dirtier and quicker we do it, the quicker it'll be over. War is supposed to be hell. Most people don't get that.
Her: Ok I get that part, I don't get why if I don't think like that I'm a sheep!
Me: People that disagree with that almost always think that all conflicts can be settled through negotiations and that fighting shouldn't be an option. Those are deadly mistakes. When someone wants to harm you, the ONLY option is to kill them first.
Her: It is a mistake, but I'm not sure wiping out a race is right either.
Me: If that race wants to harm us, it is right. Muslim extremists want to not only wipe out every non muslim but even some other muslims that don't agree with them. They are responding to what they believe is a religious mandate to kill us all. We are only responding to aggression and only going after those that want to harm us. There are muslims fighting along side us. And in many cases doing with professional bravery that rivals some of our own men. We've never attempted to wipe out any whole race, though many of them have. As Saddam did with the Kurds in his country.
Her: You don't think there can be a peaceful ending?
Me: You have to
know this, without victory, there can be no peace, they won't allow it.
Her: We've never tried to negotiate. We attacked them first in Desert storm. They are only responding to Aggression.
Me: No, we only helped the Kuwaitis when they were attacked, The same way we helped the Afghani's when the soviets attacked them. We've never attacked them except in retaliation for unprovoked aggression. If you don't know history any better than that, then no one can teach you a thing. It's how it is, factually, I'm sorry you can't comprehend actual events.
Her: (yes she actually said this) None of that's true, I saw it on CNN
Me: Uncontrolled laughter for about 2 minutes.
Her: What are you laughing at asshole?
Me: mental retardation (insert another 30 seconds of laughter here)
Her: dead air she hung up on me about the time I stopped laughing
Yes I know that some of you think it's stupid to argue with the morons, but I get a kick out of it