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Posted: 10/9/2007 2:06:34 PM EDT
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I love all of God's little Children.
Be it some less than others. Naw, this is just a free bump start. 
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Posted: 10/9/2007 2:12:08 PM EDT
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I run across adults who are just as much clueless as these high school students.
They think if they talk loud and say things such as, "All Clinton did was get a BJ, look what Bush has done!" or "Bush is an idiot!" They say these things real loud when you try discuss facts. If you present them with something they can not explain, they say these thing even louder. My favorite was a lady saying the all so normal, "Bush is an idiot." This after I dismantled everything she had to say about the data we had leading up to the Iraq war. She had no response so fell back on that. At this point I just have fun and start asking stuff like, "I'm sorry, what year did you graduate from Yale?" or "How much money did you make last year." |
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Posted: 10/9/2007 2:40:53 PM EDT
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My sister's got her 12 year-old daughter involved in all the anti-Bush and Global Warming crap.
I never miss an opportunity to engage and destroy in conversation. |
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Posted: 10/9/2007 7:06:36 PM EDT
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Im surrounded by these people (friends and co-workers) and trying to discuss politics with these people is like talking to a GD wall. I know its wrong to just give up...i try and get condemned. I dont really care if they disagree with me, but getting them to even have a polite discussion is a struggle. -it kicks off a rant!
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Posted: 10/9/2007 7:09:51 PM EDT
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well... bush is dumb
eta : your rant can go both ways. there's millions of uneducated republicans out there too. ex. it must be true, "i saw it on fox" "bush said it" "rush said it" "it's in the bilble" etc. ap |
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Posted: 10/10/2007 2:50:01 AM EDT
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Yeah that part is a rant... but my main point was I said your entitled to your opinion but what do democrats believe in? And the thing that came outta this guy who had been strenuously arguing with me for the last thirty minutes how republicans are bad and democrats are good yet he didn't even know what the party he was supporting believes in.
j0hn |
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Posted: 10/10/2007 3:13:04 AM EDT
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Your a good citizen 
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Posted: 10/10/2007 3:17:29 AM EDT
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Can you explain what Republicans "believe in"? It sure isn't "small government" anymore... 
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Posted: 10/10/2007 3:27:05 AM EDT
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Bush believes in illegal aliens, bigger government, and Africa.
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Posted: 10/10/2007 3:28:54 AM EDT
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Why are you debating high-schoolers?
Thats like trying to have a conversation with Bill Mahr. |
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Posted: 10/10/2007 3:30:20 AM EDT
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Maybe...because...he's...IN...high school..? |
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Posted: 10/10/2007 3:39:41 AM EDT
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A co-worker of mine votes Democrat all the time.
When approached as to why... she says 'I've just been always doing it, its just the way my family is' My response to that was 'Baaaaaaaaaaaaaa...' |
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Posted: 10/10/2007 3:44:13 AM EDT
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You don't think illegal aliens, bigger government and Africa exist? |
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Posted: 10/10/2007 3:47:39 AM EDT
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The advice stands. |
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Posted: 10/10/2007 3:49:40 AM EDT
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In my high school, students were doing the same thing. The worst part is that the teachers encouraged that kind of bullshit. Crap like this had a lot to do with shaping my current beliefs.
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Posted: 10/10/2007 5:05:10 AM EDT
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Well said. I do however, feel your pain on the discussion part. I run into this all the time. Me: "Why do you like that candidate?" Them: "Republicans are stupid!" Me: "Okay, but WHY do YOU like your candidate? What will he do better for you and the country?" Them: "All Republicans are idiots!" Seriously, it's like a f**king pre-school nanner-nanner conversation. I fully expect one of these idiots to say, "I know you are but what am I!?"  Pretty hard to have a "discussion" with a parrot. CMOS |
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Posted: 10/10/2007 5:14:39 AM EDT
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Those stupid kids learned to talk like that from stupid adults.... they didn't come up with it on their own..
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Posted: 10/10/2007 5:17:13 AM EDT
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Get used to it. I listen to college students and twenty-somethings all the time who spout off on political issues but don't have any facts or figures as eveidence. They argue based on emotion.
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Posted: 10/10/2007 5:20:16 AM EDT
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I see this every damn day. Makes my nose bleed the stupidity that comes out of their mouths. |
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Posted: 10/10/2007 5:22:16 AM EDT
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Kids right now aren't really "aware" of any political issues except for Iraq. To them it's simple, Bush = Iraq, Democrats = No Iraq. It's nowhere near that simple (or even close to true, at this point) but thats still how they see it.
It's been said on this site before, but it still applies. Bush has done a good job of killing the GOP, at least for a few years. |
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Posted: 10/10/2007 5:22:38 AM EDT
[#21]
FWIW, it's usually that way for kids on both sides of the divide. |
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Posted: 10/10/2007 5:29:18 AM EDT
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I am no big fan of Bush. However, whenever I hear the "Bush is Dumb" rant, I have to reply: "Really, when did you get a MBA from Harvard?".
That is a master's degree from Harvard. Almost none of the "Bush is Dumb" types have a BS or BA, let alone a master's. The man is not dumb. Clueless maybe, but not dumb. |
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Posted: 10/10/2007 5:41:06 AM EDT
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I have a parrot and most times I prefer to have discussions with him. He is much smarter than a good portion of the people I know. Especially most democrats and college students....  Joe |
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Posted: 10/10/2007 5:45:25 AM EDT
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I love how they say Bush is an idiot......but an evil genius whom planned the 9/11 attack and fooled us all into a war in Iraq.
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Posted: 10/10/2007 5:47:49 AM EDT
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Yah pretty much hit it right there... Right now (for the last 10-15 years) democrats have not believed in anything, they just don't believe in stuff. They don't have solutions to problems, they are just against what is going on or being done. It is a much easier if worthless position. |
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Posted: 10/10/2007 5:48:53 AM EDT
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Modern Dems remind me of the sheep in Animal Farm.
Shouting out bumper stikcer slogans is no way to debate public policy. Bush Lied Iraq is Arabic for Vietnam etc. |
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Posted: 10/10/2007 5:51:34 AM EDT
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I thought this was a GWB thread.... |
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Posted: 10/10/2007 6:54:56 AM EDT
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There's a guy I work with who throws out the "Bush is an idiot" line every now and then, so one day I asked him "why?" "he just is" was his answer. "what do you mean he just is?", says me. "He's just an idiot" he answers again. So we go around in circles like this for a while and he never can tell me why Bush is an idiot. I have my own disagreements with the President, but at least I can articulate them. After getting to know this guy a little better, what it appears to come down to is he has heard other people say Bush is an idiot, and because of what he hears constantly in the media, he believes everyone in the country thinks that way. He is just agreeing with the so-called "common wisdom". He has the same attitude about guns, saying "I support the 2nd amendment, but no one needs an AK-47". I ask him why and he not only can't answer, after some discussion it turns out he has no clue whatsoever what an "AK-47" actually is. He can't even identify one on sight. He says things like this because he has been lead to believe this is the way enlightened, reasonable people think on the issue, and he considers himself one of those people. It has nothing to do with informing himself and then making a decision. I can deal with people having opinions in opposition to mine, but in the case of this guy at work, in my estimation he doesn't have a real opinion - he is doing nothing more than being a parrot on the bandwagon. I can deal with that too, but I am not nearly as cordial about it. |
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Posted: 10/10/2007 7:01:12 AM EDT
[#29]
Well, Bush IS Dumb........
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Posted: 10/10/2007 2:11:06 PM EDT
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That may be the first reason... but I have converted my Cal Teacher against Hillary... Never miss a chance to persuade someone from voting for that bull dike. j0hn |
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Posted: 10/10/2007 2:14:09 PM EDT
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People in my area like that just hop and the bandwagon... They say it because all their friends friends say it... Can't avoid parrots... Let's just hope natural selection aids us  j0hn |
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Posted: 10/10/2007 2:15:10 PM EDT
[#32]
You can't argue logic with idiots and liars.
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Posted: 10/10/2007 3:33:32 PM EDT
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Sadly my inlaws fall into this catagory, they are staunch dems. they vote straight party ticket on everything.....
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Posted: 10/10/2007 3:34:48 PM EDT
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I met a girl in GRADUATE SCHOOL who had never heard of the Electoral College and didn't know what it was during the John Kerry / George Bush election aftermath.
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Posted: 10/10/2007 3:46:50 PM EDT
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True, but some of the more...uh...'enlightened' ones  will comeback with something like "Sure, he got into Harvard - but only because his Daddy was head of the CIA"IMHO I think Bush is extremely intelligent in real life...he just plays stupid on tv to cater to 'his base'. Also, he may be clueless/has made some major misjudgements. |
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Posted: 10/10/2007 4:13:06 PM EDT
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X2 -- Im a Dem ... What is going to really fuck up this country is the polar split we are having between dems and reps. Its like there is no in-between anymore. I'm really tired of hearing crap like "dems are ..." or Reps are ..." ... That split is going to kill this country ... |
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Posted: 10/10/2007 10:19:40 PM EDT
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Wow do you live in a bubble? I mean seriously -- you are a perfect exapmle of what I'm talking about ... thanks for proving my point! |
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Posted: 10/10/2007 11:42:36 PM EDT
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The Dems may have started it, but the Republicans pushed it to where it is today. Stuff like FOX News and people like Sean Hannity pushing the divide every chance they can get. Don't forget how much the Republicans attacked Clinton (even before his affair) - people like Rush and Gingrich, etc. I'm conservative (but not Republican) and to try and paint the Republicans as better than the Dems is simply ludicrous. The Dems may be socialists...but the Republicans have a lot of strikes against them as well - everything from violating civil rights/privacy (i.e. Terry Schiavo, certain sections of the PATRIOT ACT, etc.) to corruption (i.e. Alberto Gonzales firing the federal attorneys, Larry Craig nonsense, etc.) and many other things I can't think of off the top of my head at the moment. In the end, they both suck, and every election is simply tantamount to choosing the lesser of two evils unfortunately.
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Posted: 10/10/2007 11:50:23 PM EDT
[#39]
Republicans are every bit as stupid as democrats.
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Posted: 10/11/2007 12:11:59 AM EDT
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Bush IS the dumbest President ever.
And, the 2 party system is a trainwreck. |
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Posted: 10/12/2007 2:06:10 PM EDT
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These people are also the ones who cast uniformed votes... At least they are coting however... nothing pisses me off more than someone who bashes and political figure when they didn't vote... If you didn't vote against them stfu... that was your chance to speak out... j0hn |
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Posted: 10/12/2007 2:13:16 PM EDT
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Anyone who thinks Bush is dumber than Carter needs a sanity check. I don't hear anyone trotting out the misery index anymore. |
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