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Posted: 10/8/2007 10:12:04 PM EDT
[#1]
Assault and Battery over a Wet Willie? What a fucking joke.
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Posted: 10/8/2007 10:12:55 PM EDT
[#2]
I hate "Wet Willies". Someone else's bodily fluid in my ear pisses me off.
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Posted: 10/8/2007 10:14:30 PM EDT
[#3]
Some type of charge is warranted when some drunk illegal gets his body fluids on you. I applaud the officers restraint in allowing the court to determine if punishment is warranted. Not so many years back that guy would have showed up at the jail with 8 broken fingers. |
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Posted: 10/8/2007 10:14:51 PM EDT
[#4]
Will the defendant please rise.
You are charged with giving the officer a Wet Willie. On that charge, the jury finds the defendant guilty. You are hereby sentenced to a noogie, two grundies, and 3 indian burns. The indian burns will be served consecutively. |
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Posted: 10/8/2007 10:15:51 PM EDT
[#5]
Deportation for wet willie....at least it was not a slick willie....
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Posted: 10/8/2007 10:17:16 PM EDT
[#6]
 I would have cracked up |
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Posted: 10/8/2007 10:18:24 PM EDT
[#7]
You're right. I'd probably get the suspect behind the squad car and have him 'fall' a few times on his face. |
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Posted: 10/8/2007 10:21:40 PM EDT
[#8]
Bailiff, whack his pee-pee! |
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Posted: 10/8/2007 10:22:17 PM EDT
[#9]
You must have a second source of info on this case. Mind posting it, so the rest of us can as well informed as you? Because, even with my college education, I can't find anywhere in the quoted article where the defendant's citizenship / possible immigration status is mentioned. Familiar with the terms racial profiling and/or xenophobia? |
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Posted: 10/8/2007 10:26:12 PM EDT
[#10]
Sir, you have a sense of humor and a sense of justice. You have no place in our legal system. The correct answer is that if this guy is a white, he should get 2 years without parole. If he is an oppressed minority, he should get community service and the officer should take a sensitivity course. If he is an illegal immigrant, he should get a nice settlement along with free health care, schooling, welfare, a stipend, and a personal BJ from our President. |
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Posted: 10/8/2007 10:26:22 PM EDT
[#11]
Wet willies are just one of those things that set me off. I would have beat the guy.
I think it stems from my older 2 brothers terrozing oh so many years with wet willies being a staple of that terrorizing. |
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Posted: 10/8/2007 10:26:56 PM EDT
[#12]
I saw no mention of his race in the article. He does however have a propensity for crime, live in a state with a large illegal immigrant community, speaks spanish and has a latin american name. Lawfull immigration from latin american has been very restricted for the defendants entire life and if he were born here he would likely speak english. so its a pretty good bet he's an illegal. But don't let common sense get in the way of your liberal college indoctrination. |
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Posted: 10/8/2007 10:27:39 PM EDT
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I'd say it's a pretty good bet that this guy is an illegal And HE was probably going by the fact that I posted it 
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Posted: 10/8/2007 10:27:54 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/8/2007 10:29:10 PM EDT
[#15]
All coincidences
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Posted: 10/8/2007 10:29:40 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/8/2007 10:32:46 PM EDT
[#17]
You're absolutely right. I recall at least one Perales on the Mayflower. 
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Posted: 10/8/2007 11:28:12 PM EDT
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Info gleaned from here:
findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0DXK/is_24_18/ai_82770922 SOURCE: U.S DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE -- BUREAU OF JUSTICE STATISTICS Inmates in State, Federal, and Local Jails by Age as of June 30, 2000 MALE White Black Age Total * Non-Hispanic Non-Hispanic Hispanic Total 1,775,700 663,700 791,600 290,900 18-19 81,300 26,200 36,700 15,600 20-24 310,100 99,500 142,800 60,000 25-29 329,900 104,900 160,200 58,400 30-34 334,000 125,000 149,700 54,800 35-39 294,100 116,200 136,100 39,600 40-44 198,300 81,300 83,400 31,200 45-54 164,500 77,900 62,200 22,200 55 or older 51,300 29,500 13,300 7,800 It would seem that there were more White, Non-Hispanic males incarcerated in 1990 than there were Hispanic males. I guess that means that white men commit crimes too. Crimes are committed by people other than illegals. Assuming that someone with an Hispanic name who is involved in a crime is illegal is xenophobic and racist. Your defense of your position isn't working, either. |
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Posted: 10/8/2007 11:36:44 PM EDT
[#19]
What would be the charge for a wedgie?
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Posted: 10/8/2007 11:38:25 PM EDT
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I don't feel I have to defend my "position" against someone who has outed themselves as a liberal with their story comparing Pilgrims with illegal aliens who enter this country in full knowledge of the laws they are breaking. The Pilgrims "migration" isn't comparable in any way with our current situation by anyone with any reasoning ability at all You actually had a "possible" leg to stand on arguing about conclusion jumping However, when you switched to xenophobia and racism you jumped the tracks Illegals are CRIMINALS.....NOT foreigners, illegal is not a race, thanks for playing
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Posted: 10/8/2007 11:40:30 PM EDT
[#21]
Officers not being allowed to practice the 'beat & release' program (aka 'Wall to Wall Counseling') are now required to handle such situations by massive quantities of paperwork directed at the offender-in-question... And so they do... |
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Posted: 10/8/2007 11:42:20 PM EDT
[#22]
Legal folks do it regularly too... Assuming immigration status by last name is absurd... Tell me, 22bad: Do we have any illegal immigrants in the USA from Puerto Rico? (don't help him, guys!) |
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Posted: 10/8/2007 11:47:08 PM EDT
[#23]
 .............. now that's funny.
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Posted: 10/8/2007 11:49:35 PM EDT
[#24]
Yeah, didn't you have a thread about how it was a logical fallacy to post about illegals committing crimes because Citizens do too? Haven't you also argued repeatedly about how fences don't work? (in spite of their use across this country, in the .MIL and mexico?) You really think I don't know that people in Puerto Rico are US Citizens? What a maroon
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Posted: 10/8/2007 11:54:54 PM EDT
[#25]
I can certainly be convinced to change my mind. But not by tossing around racist, stereotypical assumptions. I don't know the guy in the article. He might very well be an illegal immigrant. I'm not arguing about his immigration status.
My whole point has been that assuming one is an illegal immigrant simply based on his last name, area of residence, and a recent arrest is silly. There are plenty of Hispanics whose families have been in this country legally for generations, who get into legal trouble. Should we assume that a resident of New York City, with an Italian name, who is arrested for murder, is a member of the Mafia? Or, is it just fashionable to paint all Hispanics with an illegal immigrant brush, and all Arabs with a Islamic-extremist terrorist brush? Oh, and I'm not a liberal. In fact, I support Fred Thompson for President. I am, however, the son of a legal immigrant. But, her maiden name is Maloney. Does that Irish name mean she's probably a fund-raiser for the IRA? |
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Posted: 10/8/2007 11:59:28 PM EDT
[#26]
I don't know how cops deal with some of these assholes without a biohazard suit.
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Posted: 10/9/2007 12:06:32 AM EDT
[#27]
You know better than to post stuff like this. On gun boards white people don't count, they are all angels and victims. Any other talk is simply liberal PC BS propaganda designed to bring down the American white male. Also, you forgot to call for the death of some race or religious group. |
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Posted: 10/9/2007 12:06:56 AM EDT
[#28]
You mean like these guys? www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=623106 If you go dig up the last thread on that(which I tried to find) you'll see that I was jumping to a conclusion on those guys I made post after post about their school, their "fireworks", ect, ect I can see what you are(or rather were)talking about however, the other side is that I'd rather see that asshat as an illegal than an hispanic that was completely disregarding our rules of society, our rule of law and our Law Enforcement Officers And, if the numbers can be trusted 40 million hispanics in the US 20 million illegals in the US Someone drunk, throwing his wife around at a party, threatening people, saying he would kill her when he gets out of jail and giving a "wet-willie" to the arresting Officers has at least a 30% chance of being illegal, personally I give it more than 50% YMMV
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Posted: 10/9/2007 12:10:04 AM EDT
[#29]
Just kids having fun.
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Posted: 10/9/2007 12:15:38 AM EDT
[#30]
Go curl your pubes, Nancy. And iron my shirt while you're up. |
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Posted: 10/9/2007 12:29:09 AM EDT
[#31]
It might very well be that he is an illegal. However, it doesn't say so in the article. Assuming his immigration status fits into your preconcieved notions of illegal immigrants is dangerous. Now, do legal immigrants who break the law deserve respect because they aren't illegal? No. But their family shouldn't be lumped in with the scourge that is illegal immigration simply because of their name. Making decisions without facts is rarely ever a good idea.
If the name wasn't given, would it be safe to assume the perpetrator was a white-male, living in a trailer park, with a mullet, a Camaro, and a Dale Earnhardt Jr. commemorative plate collection? Domestic violence and drug/alcohol abuse are problems which reach across socio-economic boundries. Heck, five years ago, I spent the night outside the home of a white, American doctor's house, ensuring that the good doctor didn't return to kill his estranged wife, who had just filed for divorce after he had repeatedly beat her. I was especially concerned, because the Dr. apparently had a 'friend,' read that as lover, who was a former Special Forces-qualified soldier, who might have been teaching his gay lover some nasty little tricks. That little situation throws all kinds of stereotypes out the window, huh? A gay Special Forces soldier? A bisexual doctor who does drugs and beats his wife? It was a nice home too, no double-wides in that neighborhood. I don't remember the Doc's name, but had it been Garcia, or Hernandez, would it be a safe assumption that he was illegal, as well, instead of from upper-class America? |
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Posted: 10/9/2007 12:40:37 AM EDT
[#32]
That's a great way to win an argument, start tossing names around. Obviously you prefer to argue from an intellectual standpoint. Any time you wish to discuss my masculinity, my cell phone number is listed at the bottom of all of my posts. Give me a call, hero. Just be advised, you might not like the result. Eight years as a U.S. Army Infantryman and Artilleryman taught me well how to toss out vulgarities and base, personal insults. I fail to understand many people. When the news media paints gun owners as bad any time a criminal uses a gun in a high-profile crime, we get into a fit about being lumped in with them, and don't appreciate the broad generalization that anyone who would own one of those black rifles must be a D.C. Sniper in waiting. But, those same folks will automatically assume that anyone with a Hispanic name who commits a crime is an illegal alien. And when called on it, some will begin to attack their own. Hypocricy, folks, hypocricy. |
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Posted: 10/9/2007 12:45:33 AM EDT
[#33]
If the name and behavior was not given there would be no basis to "assume" anything No, I wouldn't assume a Doctor was an illegal, you are really bad at making comparisons
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Posted: 10/9/2007 12:49:29 AM EDT
[#34]
I'd say an Atomic Wedgie is in order.
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Posted: 10/9/2007 12:58:05 AM EDT
[#35]
The point is, assuming something to be fact, when not all of the information is present, is a dangerous practice.
Yes, illegal immigrants commit crime. Yes, many illegal immigrants are from Spanish speaking countries, and, therefore have Spanish names. However, there are plenty of U.S. citizens and legal immigrants, with Spanish names, who commit crime. Yes, guns are used to kill people. Yes, many of the more infamous killers in America are white males. Yes, many of those white, male, killers have used guns to commit their heinious acts. Obviously, no one on this board would state that any white male who owns a gun must be a future mass murderer. That's the type of illogical conclusion we'd rail against if it were espoused by the Violence Policy Center, the DU, or The Campaign to Elect Clinton in 2008. Why would we decry their use of illogical, stereotypical assumptions, yet resort to them ourselves? It puts us in the same boat as them, from a stand point of having a leg on which to stand. We can't win by bringing ourselves down to their level. We have to hold ourselves to a higher standard, and must place ourselves above stereotyping, if we ever hope to convert people to our side. You can't fight dirty without getting mud on yourself. That's been my whole point all along. I'm not here to argue the guys immigration status. I'm simply saying that making assumptions based on stereotypes is no way to show that you're right. |
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Posted: 10/9/2007 1:02:22 AM EDT
[#36]
Okay, you made your point BTW: when moose didn't bother telling anyone about his witness ID I knew that white males were the most likely suspects for mass murder but, it didn't make me "feel bad" because I was lumped in due to my race |
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Posted: 10/9/2007 1:03:18 AM EDT
[#37]
Hispanic is not a race. Most hispanics are white. Some hispanics are black. You are confusing cultural background, national origin and ethnic heritage with race. |
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Posted: 10/9/2007 1:06:34 AM EDT
[#38]
Nobody made that assumption based on that criteria. |
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Posted: 10/9/2007 1:10:19 AM EDT
[#39]
So, what criteria did you use to assume that he was illegal? |
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Posted: 10/9/2007 1:11:04 AM EDT
[#40]
Hence the use of the term xenophobic. |
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Posted: 10/9/2007 1:13:04 AM EDT
[#41]
FULL name age Speaks spanish not english Geographic location Type of crime |
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Posted: 10/9/2007 1:23:53 AM EDT
[#42]
The article didn't say he does not speak English, only that he spoke Spanish while speaking to his wife. My ex-wife's best friend, Francesca Intraveia, is a first-generation Italian-American, being the first member of her family born in America. Her parents speak English, but not well. In their home, they communicate in Italian. It doesn't mean they aren't Americans, for they are. It just means that they are most comfortable speaking Italian with each other, as it is their native language.
Are you familiar with the name Oleg Volk? If you're not, Google it. Oleg happens to be one of my best friends, and I see him frequently. When he talks to his parents, it is usually a mix of English and Russian. Over the phone, it's almost always Russian. English is used mainly for the benefit of those in the room who don't speak Russian. Does that make Oleg any less of an American Patriot? If so, you might want to let him know. Maybe the guy in the article is a U.S. born citizen, but his wife isn't, and while drunk he started talking to her in the language she understands best. Do you see my point yet? Without all the information, there are too many other possibilities for what could have been happening. |
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Posted: 10/9/2007 1:32:21 AM EDT
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 See the gentleman in the picture above? His name is Arial Rico. He was a 25 year-old native of El Paso, Texas, and a friend of mine when he was killed in Iraq. He and I served in Kosovo together in 2000. When Arial spoke to his wife, it was quite often in Spanish. If I told you Arial was arrested in a traffic stop, in rural West Texas, and a newspaper article stated that he had been telling his wife something in Spanish, would it be safe to assume, based on name, age, where he lived, language, and arrest, that he was an illegal immigrant? If you did, you'd have been wrong. There's always another side to a story. Making assumptions does nothing to further your argument, but can, at times, come back to degrade your argument. For the record, I don't know that Arial was ever in trouble with the law, or was ever arrested. I was simply using his name and situation to make a point. Arial was nothing but a great American, and a patriot, who loved his country and gave his life in her service. He is a hero to me. |
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Posted: 10/9/2007 3:30:59 AM EDT
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The gauntlet was just thrown down. Escalation to phone calls. OK, assuming the suspect was an illegal was a stereotypical assumption. I don't see how deconstructionism, the feminism movement, views on gays and patriarchal theory apply. |
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Posted: 10/9/2007 5:50:07 AM EDT
[#45]
Should have received an ass whooping to boot.
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Posted: 10/9/2007 5:55:55 AM EDT
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Posted: 10/9/2007 5:57:22 AM EDT
[#47]
Lots and lots of hand sanitizer. Probably go through a bottle a shift. |
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Posted: 10/9/2007 6:23:16 AM EDT
[#48]
I would agree, but he probably pays cash for that service now. 
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Posted: 10/9/2007 6:24:01 AM EDT
[#49]
How's a guy in cuffs able to lick his finger than stick it in an officer's ear?
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Posted: 10/9/2007 10:33:23 AM EDT
[#50]
play2win,
You'll notice the date / time stamps on the original posts. My last edit was well before his initial post. He added the information in red, as a way of extrapolating and rationalizing his own xenophobia and hatred. |
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