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Posted: 10/8/2007 8:23:09 PM EDT
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I am all for CCW for citizens. I do not know the law in NH, however, if that had happened in the state I work (In.) I most certainly would have arrested him for refusal to identify. He could have been anyone, as far as the officer was concerned. As far as his buddy that was walking around bitching, he would have got one warning to stop interfering, had he not piped down and stood back, he would have been joining his buddy. Why would you refuse to ID yourself to a LEO? That makes no sense at all. While on the subject, why on earth would anyone want to walk around with a weapon exposed? I find that weird, it defeats the entire purpose of handgun carry. Again, you will find no one who is more pro second amendment than me, but lets use a little common sense. Am I alone on this one?
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You are not required to give more than your name and address to a LEO, and unless asked. I do not have any speakers on my comp here at work, so I am not sure if he complied with that or not. |
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Because HE ARE THE POLICE~!!!!!!! AND YOU LISTEN TO THE POLICE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! "Those who sacrafice freedom for safety deserve neither safety nor freedom" How hallow those words from F.D.R's four freedoms speech ring in my ear. Does the lawful exercise of his rights bother you comrade? |
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I didn't see anyone hassled, I just saw a couple of douche bag drama queens.
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Yeah, those two cops sucked. |
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The guy with the striped shirt was a dick. The guy with the gun was looking for drama and he found it. I think this open carry will backfire. I believe it will hurt the concealed carry movement. |Just my opinion. MIKE. |
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The guy was in full compliance with the law; he gets stopped and held by the police, and he's the bad guy? I thought you guys believed in gun rights.
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Sorry if your post/video didn't have the desired effect on me. The douche bags were looking for a confrontation and all the drama they could manufacture. In Vegas, they call that making your point the hard way. Much easier to simply tell the Cops what you are doing and why. Then everyone can be on their way and little time is wasted. Open carry may be a right, but in this day and age it's anachronistic and down right silly most of the time. It is so rarely done, that people are alarmed to see it and with good reason. Inducing public alarm, regardless of the fact that you are excercising your right, is grounds for investigation by the police. |
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lol. when the striped shirt guy was trying to talk to the bald cop in black, he waved his hand up and down in front of the cop's face.
that was hilarious. |
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www6.lexisnexis.com/publisher/EndUser?Action=UserDisplayFullDocument&orgId=574&topicId=100010728&docId=l:678620028&isRss=true |
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gran'di-os'i-ty
pompous and showy This does not help our cause. |
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The guy wasn't doing anything illegal, but I can understand why a cop would want to
make a contact. It should have been clear relatively early-on in the contact to establish that the guy was attempting to prove/make a point and didn't pose a threat to anyone. Conversely, if the guy appeared intoxicated, incoherent or otherwise appeared to be a threat, then the officer would have cause for alarm, and be warranted (IMO) to continue with his contact, request back-up, etc. The ass-clown on the sidelines should have been warned to STFU, and arrested for obstruction if he didn't. In the end, they'll probably garner just enough attention to get open carry banned. |
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WoW! and your a cop, scary why on earth would anyone want to walk around with a weapon exposed? Ahh because its my right! |
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Why do cops walk around with their weapon exposed? Yes let's use some common sense gun control, because it's common sense... |
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you've been added to my list |
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I have a concealed carry permit but still regularly open carry. I normally dress in a neat and/or professional manner and am exceedingly polite when carrying. Normally one person a day asks me about carrying a weapon openly, at which point I explain the laws and my reasons for carrying.
I find that I am way more polite when open carrying than when I am not. I don't mind being an asshole, but I don't want to be an asshole with a gun. |
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Pass me another sheet of paper. I'm running out. |
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I'm Jewish, so no Christmas cards, please. |
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When we have a police force like the one in Minority Report people will say that about owning a pocketknife. Which is why I open carry nearly every day and explain why to anyone who asks. You are a statist of the highest order, congratulations Comrade. |
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Fixed. |
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If you are going to open carry try not to look like someone that sits in the basement all day talking about star wars and be a little professional about it...
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why can't you just carry it concealed?? why do you want to get people to talk to you?? are you are loner and require attention?? |
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What, exactly, is the "good reason" for people to be alarmed about a gun in a holster? |
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If you watch the video(did you watch the video?) He identified himself as Tim from Manchester. Thats all that he is required to do under the law in NH. For being a firearms related website I am shocked at the number of benedict arnold's amongst us. Is it any of your business (up to and including mine) what the hell this guy is open carrying for? He doesnt owe anyone an explanation for exercising his rights. |
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Shocked? You shouldnt be. |
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double |
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Walking about in public openly displaying weapons, when it isn't your duty to do so is something one might expect from a crazy person under most circumstances. By doing so, you bring unneccessary attention to yourself. That violates rule number one for the freedom loving man. That is, to never invite the police into your life. If you are walking down the street with a gun on your hip, someone will call and they will come. You can scream about your rights all you want but they will make sure that you are not a crazy person before you are permitted to go on your way. And they will be within their powers to do so. If you simply keep your gun concealed, all that could be avoided. Try as you might, open carry will never become the preferred method of carry among the vast majority of gun owners. Mainly because the vast majority of gun owners are not dumb asses. |
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*hands j706 his papers* "Heil Hitler!" *salutes* On a side note, those vented/see through police caps are they gayest thing i've ever seen... I bet they are comfortable though.. |
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When its your duty? When might that be?
Unneccessary attention? Oh, nevermind. I see.
So if you have a gun, you are automatically prejudged to be crazy, until proven otherwise, because only a dumbass crazy person wears a gun openly. Gotcha. I'll ask one more time since you didnt answer the question. What, exactly, is the "good reason" for people to be alarmed about a gun in a holster? |
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No, I'd say waving a weapon around or actually trying to shoot people with it is a bit different than calmly going about your business with a holstered weapon.
Nice to know I'm a dumbass because I occasionally openly carry a handgun. |
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Its not my duty to do so? I thought the second amendment gave me the right to bear arms, not just when YOU feel it is my "duty". Perhaps I feel it is my "duty" as a responsible citizen in a free state to carry a firearm. BTW the part in red scares the shit out of me and it should scare the shit out of you too. Ask yourself this: which side of the Berlin Wall would YOU have been a guard on? |
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Okay, so let me see if I've got this straight:
1) The guy in the video had the right to Open Carry. 2) It was legal to Open Carry. 3) The guy was wrong to Open Carry. So, it's cool for people to have the right to OC. It's cool for it to be legal to OC. It's just not cool to actually OC? |
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I'm not denying it's your right. I'm just wondering why you wanna draw attention to yerself when you can carry it and not draw attention.
Still protecting yourself and still getting your 2nd amendment right........ right??? |
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